kahuna creations makes into usa today!

[enemy combatant]

Originally Posted by WillJ

I'm in NYC ...i'm always down for a roadtrip

I'm not surprised a piece of white trash like you would live in a sh*thole like NYC. I'm in PDX and there have been plenty of pictures of me, my friends, my family, and my boards even on this site. Come on out and see where it gets you tough guy. I shouldn't be too hard for a genius like you to find.

how's getting those kids to your house to check out your "quiver"

There you go with your homosexual fantasies again. NYC must suit you just fine. LOL!

[WillJ]

Originally Posted by enemy combatant

I'm not surprised a piece of white trash like you would live in a sh*thole like NYC. I'm in PDX and there have been plenty of pictures of me, my friends, my family, and my boards even on this site. Come on out and see where it gets you tough guy. I shouldn't be too hard for a genius like you to find.



There you go with your homosexual fantasies again. NYC must suit you just fine. LOL!

the twat on your face keeps moving, yet nothing of substance comes out....


and where are your pics at biggirl? don't think i saw any in the action shots thread..
come on Kathy, where are the goods

[rosewood thief]

Originally Posted by WillJ

the twat on your face keeps moving, yet nothing of substance comes out....


and where are your pics at biggirl? don't think i saw any in the action shots thread..
come on Kathy, where are the goods

[msk]

Originally Posted by enemy combatant

Not really. Just because some editor called it longboarding doesn't mean anyone else did. If they were still nailing on trucks in 1972 like the article purports then they were about 12 years begind the times. And I don't give a #### what they were doing in Santa Barbara in 1978. Sims boards were way overpriced for what you got. And 6 foot boards were stupid then and they are stupid now.

People did not say "longboarding" back then. They called it skating.

At least here in SoCal, it did get called "longboarding". The difference between now and then was that the term referred specifically to the act of riding a longboard, as opposed to it being some other style of skateboarding. Most of us "longboarders" did exactly the same stuff as everyone else did on a short board.

If you weren't using the term longboarding until the '90s, then you were about 12 years behind the times...

[enemy combatant]

Originally Posted by WillJ

the twat on your face keeps moving, yet nothing of substance comes out....

The only twat around here is you. You've been making threats to people on this forum for years whether you were in San Diego, Texas, NYC or whatever hole you inhabit. Threats about "road trips" and beatings you don't follow through on sounds like a pussy to me.

[pennypusher]

Originally Posted by WillJ

hey buddy, if you don't have the balls to say it in public, take your sandy vagina elsewhere



skateboarder my ass... go get your walker with the tennis balls on the bottom so you don't slip and hang out with some other crusty idiots that might take your drivel seriously


kook

i love a good sandy vag,that grit really tears #### up..nothing better then having a pecker that looks like someone gave it a indian burn.

[mcgoon]

Will J, it's not nice to pick on the mentally challenged...

[kenofseattle]

Props to Kahuna! I've never tried a big stick, but I think I would crash trying to use it since I can't help but move my feet around a lot on a board. I bet it's great for the SUP surfers to train with though.

You guys getting into the ego wars should chill. Seriously. Arguing about the origins of the word 'longboarding'? Really? Arguing about how skating evolved 40 years ago? Really? REALLY? What do you need to prove? Are we scrapping over the title of Godfather of Longboarding, because there ain't one.

[msk]

Originally Posted by kenofseattle

Are we scrapping over the title of Godfather of Longboarding, because there ain't one.

Sure there is: Tom Sims

[stevie]

Home made stick, 7' dowel and old radiused rubber speed wheel, not as fun as pumping but definitely adds a tool to the kit. I've used a Kahuna stick but I like this one better.

PS - Stick skating is pretty different than SUP, from the stance to the stroke.

[Depthcon]

i think the kahuna classics and the pohakus look preetty awesome! I might get one of those some day. does anyone know if they can go up with more than the 70mm wheels?

[MmmmTacos]

am i the only one that finds EC actually funny?

and rosewood, stay out of internet fights that dont involve you

[Ghoulardo]

Originally Posted by msk

The answer is simple: a longboard is... LONG! If it isn't long, then it isn't a longboard.

Ok if that is true draw the line for me. Determine what can definitely be said once and for all what is a longboard and what is not because that is the problem I have with it.

Originally Posted by msk

Much of what stylistically is referred to as "longboarding" originated on what were standard skateboards 20-40 years ago. Does that mean that all skaters back in the 70s were longboarders?

I don't really feel the need to draw the line that far into the past considering there wasn't a schism back then that could be paralleled to the differences between the "street skating community" and the "longboarding community".

[rosewood thief]

Originally Posted by MmmmTacos

am i the only one that finds EC actually funny?

yes

Originally Posted by MmmmTacos

and rosewood, stay out of internet fights that dont involve you?

i just threw in my 2 cents then got carried away...

sorry

[msk]

Originally Posted by Ghoulardo

Ok if that is true draw the line for me. Determine what can definitely be said once and for all what is a longboard and what is not because that is the problem I have with it.

Problem is, ask 20 skaters and you'll get 20 answers. One skater may consider 36" to be long, while another might not even consider 40" to be long. But one thing is certain: a 26" (or whatever size your favorite mini is) deck is NOT long. It should be at least longer than the average street deck.

Years ago, one spec that was tossed around was that a longboard had to be at least 38" long, AND have at least a 22" wheelbase. Couldn't be just one or the other, had to have both. Personally, I've always felt that was a good dividing line (although I had a few friends who didn't consider anything under 42" to be a true longboard)...

I don't really feel the need to draw the line that far into the past considering there wasn't a schism back then that could be paralleled to the differences between the "street skating community" and the "longboarding community".

And there are plenty of skaters who still don't fit neatly into those catagories. I do 95% of my skating on a 40" deck, yet the skating I do wouldn't be considered "longboarding". I mainly skate pools, parks and ramps with it, with the occasional curb/parking block session thrown in. In other words, "shortboarding". And when I'm on my street deck, most of what I do with it is 70s freestyle, which at least 75% of the tricks I can still do nowadays fall under the heading of "dancing" (many of the tricks you see on the Loaded Challenges are straight from my freestyle routines from '76-'77). And occasionally I'll run tight slalom on it, just for fun. So is everything I do on a standard street setup "longboarding"? As far as I'm concerned, I'm a *skateboarder* who usually rides a *longboard*, which makes me a *longboarder*...

[sk8norcal]

somebody said on here longboarders are the original skateboarders,
that's a definite NO...
downhilling came before street...
most were not downhilling on 'longboards'


regarding length...
there is two main categories, one for park, one for downhill carving...
IMO
park 19"wb and up = longboard
downhill carving 25"wb and up = longboard

longboarding never gain much traction in the 70's,
even skateboarder mag calls it a 'cult'
and no surprise that it faded out...
its not until the last 10 years that there was this 'longboard revolution'
(i give a lot of credit to snowboarding...)
(longboard park riding is still a cult status, I don't think it ever will reach any sort of popularity.. its the wrong tool for the job as they say)

regarding 'mini-longboard', many poo-poo the term...
i find a fair name for short cruisers...
unless someone got anything better...

[msk]

Originally Posted by sk8norcal

somebody said on here longboarders are the original skateboarders,
that's a definite NO...

Unless by "longboarders" they meant surfers...

longboarding never gain much traction in the 70's,
even skateboarder mag calls it a 'cult'
and no surprise that it faded out...

I don't know about anywhere else, but at least in SoCal, there was a LOT more going on back then than the magazines would have you believe. With the exception of a few one-trick ponies (the guys who only did freestyle, or only skated pools), literally everyone I knew had at least one longboard, and there were quite a few who rode longboards exclusively. We had a lot of rideable hills and big ditches back then, and a 36"-48" board was the right tool for the job. There were even a handful of longboard companies around where I lived. When I had my own company, I probably sold more Longshots than any other model.

The magazines just got so focused on pools and parks that they began to pretty much ignore everything else that was going on. "The Cult Of The Longboarder" is a perfect example: even when doing an article on longboarding, the magazine focused exclusively on park skaters. No mention of the guys bombing La Costa, or carving the ditches in the San Gabriel foothills, or even cruising the paths at the beach...

regarding 'mini-longboard', many poo-poo the term...
i find a fair name for short cruisers...
unless someone got anything better...

Since those boards are even shorter than "shortboards", "mini-skateboard", or even just "mini", seems fitting...

[sk8norcal]

msk, let's talk true longboards for downhill carving...
forget the park stuff...
25" wb and up...
how many can you name from the 70's...
of those how many are advertised in skateboarder..?

didn't know you had your own brand, name?
your 'longshot', wb?
was this a garage operation?

in the first two years of thrasher, i see only madrid had a longboard advertise.. just one company and one model...

[sk8norcal]

Originally Posted by msk

Since those boards are even shorter than "shortboards", "mini-skateboard", or even just "mini", seems fitting...

no, not all are shorter than streetboards...
ie, the cerviche 17"wb...
its a mini...

[Chainmaillekid]

I actually went and met some of the kahuna guys in like... November i think , And messed around with their land paddles.

It seems pretty legit to me, You could reach impressive speeds on level ground with these things.

Mostly i just remember how the place smelt of fresh rubber