I think they should allow it, but restrict where it can be done to surfaces that aren't skated... flat vertical walls, etc.
It would look really cool to have a nice clean skating surface, but on the un-skateable surfaces, have it totally plastered with grafitti... especially if they follow the rules Delta outlined above.
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I think I'm gonna go strip a Dervish or something, paint it fuschia with glitter and grip it in frickin flames.
Graffiti is cool, especially the really artistic ones, i personally like faces, robots and such, but it sucks if it messes up traction. So, a skatepark that had graffiti on the walls, sides of the ramps, boxes but none at all on the riding parts of the ramps..that would work for me.
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anything that begins with "watch this" usually doesn't turn out too good.
Someone wrote NO HOPE in giant letters at my school lol. At this one elementary school someone wrote Cookie = Crack in front of the first grade classrooms.
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I went through 11 Randal hangers in a streetluge race that involved 85 foot jumps at 55 mph. It was better than using 1 or 2 hundred dollar trucks. If you know that you're going to destroy something, do it at an affordable rate.
Big, colorful pieces can look nice on a ramp but I don't like fat areas of solid paint because that's usually where I have problems sliding out. A goofy, handwritten tag like "skate or die!" or the ever funny "peanis" can be somewhat of an eyesore (a humorous eyesore, at that) but you don't have to worry about losing grip over it.
It can be hit or miss. I like indoor parks with clean ramps and nice graff all over the walls.
Its the best of both worlds at this skatepark in Washington, They have a banger skatepark but in addition to that they also have a designated graffiti wall for the writers, everyone is happy.
I say no graffiti in a skate make it look like skaters are doing it even if they arnt. So people see it and think we are a bunch of taggers. This creates more negitive feelings towards and and will lead up to law not allowing us to do what we love to do
I checked Skateboarder's Journal today and found a link to an article discussing skate park graffiti.
The thing is, the article is all about MY local park! Literally just a 5 minute walk from my house, if that.
I always thought the county, who owns the public skate spot, gave some local artists consent to paint the murals because they look so good. Evidently, that's not the case. The awesome thing is that even though hundreds of stuck up residents are complaining, the county director of parks and rec, Gary Arthur is leaving the graffiti, calling it "urban art." I like him. From the article:
"Challenges and adjustments at the Centennial skate spot have not dissuaded Arthur from including the feature at other county parks when funding is available, he said. He said he considers skateboarding to be a mainstream activity that should be accommodated at public parks on par with tennis and basketball courts."
They're just going to be removing vulgar and gang-related stuff, which is actually a really small percentage of it, which is surprising to me because most of the other tagged up spots in the surrounding area are covered in that type of stuff.
The park itself is small, no bowls or pipes or anything, just a bank with a stair set and a bench, a quarter pipe, a rainbow rail, a picnic table, and a box with a hubba and a rail. It's pretty fun though, and it's free, so I'm not complaining.
Graffiti should not be allowed, and artists should do it anyway.
That's how graffiti works.
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Everybody please keep b1tching about it too. The more you make it seem like it's bothering you, the better it feels to antagonize you. I am a graffiti purist and to me if it's not illegal it doesn't really count. The measures taken to get decent work up in a hurry or in a dangerous patrolled space are what dictates the good from the bad to me. Street Art in a legal place is not graffiti. Jackson Pollack's paintings are the MOST expensive in the world. It's just fcuking spilled paint. So your interpretation of graffiti is that it's something you don't want to see, something you think is bullshit, something you don't entirely understand. Does that make it not art. No. Does that mean that it has no value. No. Does that mean that it is even there for you at all. Not in the least bit. A bunch of park owners saying, "No Graffiti in Parks" does not stop writers. It encourages them. If there was a legitimate way to get up there the moon would be covered in graffiti. What people don't realize is that this is not always meant to beautiful or awesome or easy on the eyes. Just as there are things in the contemporary art world that go right over the heads of normal, non-snobs there are things in the underground art world that no one outside of it will ever understand. So for anyone at all to say, No graffiti anywhere is like putting a sign up that says "Do Not Skate this Super Dope Spot" next to a 13 stair with a juicy landing. To assume that any artist will listen to you is to assume that they had compassion for the owners of the property in the first place.
Stomp your feet and shake your fist, yes, no, it makes no difference. You can sit here and fight it like the drug war all you want but you will only lose time, money, and effort.
I for one don't think it is appropriate writing on anything that is privately owned by people just trying to get by. Public areas, Government owned property, School property especially to me are places that belong to everyone. So if a public park opens and some kids get in a turf war and start putting their toy assed bullsh1t up all over the place it's no different to me than it happening in the bathroom of a library. I don't live in these places. Doesn't bother me. And complaining about paint on the ground in the park is very close to blaming bad drifts on flatspots. If you can't land the tranny, I'm willing to be it's more than the paint fcuking you up.
It really irks me that members of the skating community, who participate in the sport at a lot of times illegally in places they shouldn't be, have such a bad view of graffiti artists. You gotta be "awesome" to deface property. Well you don't have to be awesome to skate on other peoples property and fcuk their sh1t up. I respect a lot of graffiti and I do recognize that much of it is ugly, terrible, offensive, garbage but this is the world we live in. You gotta take the good with the bad. I don't know if any of you have ever watched a movie of graffiti artists before but if you haven't then check this out:
Its like an hour long but it has some really amazing footage of some euro train painters. A lot of them aren't even that good. Some of them suck, but it's sick as sh1t all the same because of the crazy sh1t they do to get fast and get it up on the train. While this isn't comparable to your everyday crap at the park, everyone has got to start somewhere you know.
I've always been fascinated by graffiti, it was my favorite part of being in the city when I was a kid. Everytime I see a throwie or a piece wherever I am I always take time to stop and check it out. Seeing art where it doesn't "belong" is awesome. I've got nothing but respect for the guys who bomb huge bridges, passing trains, and billboards. It's crazy.
To me, it means creating just to create, making art to make art, expressing simply to express, and maybe putting out an idea at the same time.
I know that garbage is a part of graffiti, but I'll take it. Better than nothing altogether.
If you are ever in ATL... There's a shop on Forsyth street near 5 points. It's a cool shop. It's a thrift/dj lessons/graffiti shop. You can't miss it. It's a giant wall of murals, some 20 foot high.
yeah I saw some really cool murals in little 5 points.
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So if a public park opens and some kids get in a turf war and start putting their toy assed bullsh1t up all over the place it's no different to me than it happening in the bathroom of a library. I don't live in these places. Doesn't bother me.
I used to work in libraries, and I gotta say, #### you buddy. art and defacement are totally different acts, it's quite immature to conflate them.
yeah I saw some really cool murals in little 5 points.
Not to hijack the thread, but is the skateshop still there? I used to hang out down there a long time ago. Last time I went it wasn't quite the same, people paid to park and all. Fellinis used to let people draw all over the walls and the Yacht Club was a great place for a beer. I think the Yacht Club is still there, last time I was in little 5 was around 5 years ago, last time I really hung out there was 20. Is Wax and Facts still around?
I used to work in libraries, and I gotta say, #### you buddy. art and defacement are totally different acts, it's quite immature to conflate them.
okay then why do art historians investigate ancient graffiti in Rome? Is it not just defacement that is old? Does Banksy not deface the property he paints? If Michaelangelo wrote "Da Vinci sucks a fat ####" on a wall and it was on sale in an art auction right now no one here would make enough money in their lifetime to buy it. That's bummer it was your JOB to clean up a place. Man it must suck to do the thing you were PAID to do. One man's trash is another man's treasure. Your opinion of trash to me is a flaming red flag high up in the sky that says no matter what law, rules, or order are set in place in this world no one gives a fcuk. It represents a society advanced to the point where dissent does not even have to have a subject matter. That in and of itself is beautiful enough to legitimize all the "Cindy Johnson loves it in her loose ass" and "Come back on thursday for the best blowjob ever" Graffiti is the first TRUE faceless movement, It's not just because a bunch of different people from around the world do it. It's because you don't even know who is doing it.
I still write in Libraries, and all I gotta say it Fcuk Yea Buddy!!! You keep scrubbin', I'll keep fcuking up your work week. I wanna read something when I take a #### anyway. You guys don't let us bring the books in the bathroom. You are bringing all this pain on yourselves.
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