Cheap precision trucks by churchill mfg!!!!!!!

[Longboard Fish]

I really hoped people would look at my post for the content, not the brand names I chose.

Sorry for double post

Jesus said to forgive, and I forgive you. By the transitive property of life, I am Jesus.

[Skanonymous]

Okay sorry guys my bad I'll change it.
I didn't mean same price range, but 200 for a complete is still pretty steep for some people (like me )

You have to remember, companies like Earthwing give back to the community by sponsoring events, hosting events, etc. When you support them, they in turn give back to the skate community. Does Churchill sponsor events? I honestly have no idea. If they do, my point is void. If not, then you have to think about where/how your money is being spent.

[KojiF]

I don't know, someone should suggest that to them!

[Enryu]

They already have.
I'm certain they were a sponsor at the Adrenalina push race and also hosted the after party.

[NarniaSkate]

Pardon me for speaking up.

How about next time, you just hold your tongue? Between your what-if business scenario and your sage business advice, you've said nothing new, insightful, or a bit helpful. Maybe there would be a need to speak up about their prices, if there were a large sum of companies out there doing the same. But, can you name another? Maybe Moose, but I'm doubting they see a lot of repeat customers. You have a job, nonetheless with a board company, so I'm sure the source of income and employee discounts are quite nice. But there's a ton of families out there that are just scraping by. When a $30 (or more) difference is a big deal, a company like Churchill is a godsend. Not everybody makes their purchases based on price either. They're many other factors including asthetics and customization, which you should be quite familar with... Not to mention shape, which you have stated before that Churchill's (shapes) basically suck. So there's no competition there, right? This thread was meant to keep people informed about their upcoming trucks. So unless you have an update about them, let's stick to the controversial opinions thread. I apologize for clogging up this thread myself. Keep up the good work Churchill, and "make them good!"

I say if you're gonna make trucks, make them good.

*If* all the board manufacturing houses started selling wholesale blanks online...

[Waterczar]

My opinions here had nothing to do with the company I work for. Just my opinions on where I'd like to see the industry go, that's it. I say if you're gonna make trucks, make them good. Same with boards, wheels, bearings, whatever. And protect the industry you work in. One Churchill is small potatoes. If all the board manufacturing houses started selling wholesale blanks online, running the big companies out of business who are creating outlets for pro riders and supporting the dreams of all the little groms out there who want to be the next Mischo, running the community shops out of business that are helping put on local events and keeping the stoke alive, well, that would suck. That's just my opinion, but I can't imagine that anyone else who works for a board company or shop would feel any differently about that. Pardon me for speaking up.

True, but if blanks could kill the market shortboard companies would be dead. At least I think.

Disclaimer- I am not hating because you ride bustin, Im actually curious as to your response to this point.

[jeffvyain]

It's not that all companies would die. Those brand names have a lot of history and the brand itself has not died one bit, just the company's viability. Hence why most major skateboard brands are outsourcing to China in order to stay viable, and why most of the skateboard industry was bought out by larger corporations. While the companies themselves do exist, the greatness that they once were does not. Now the major events are held by Monster and Redbull.

I appreciate the sentiment about being poor and needing to skate. To that I say, the more community events you attend...after a few, you are very likely to just be handed a board. Or there's a very affordable used market out there. Or there's Earthwing. Or there are lawns to be mowed, lemonade stand businesses, greasy hamburgers to be made, etc etc. Do you think I don't know what it's like to be poor? When I started here I was making 10 bucks an hour assembling boards and splitting $1250 a month with my then-girlfriend. We were pretty much just staying together so we could share rent. I had my hustle on, constantly looking for work just to get my feet planted. 4-5 days a week, my diet consisted primarily of bagels...I'd buy a 6 pack in the morning and eat them throughout the day. Cost me 7 bucks a day to live and get the calories I needed to work. And yea, I'm making a paycheck now, but I've got a frickin baby on the way! Not to get all preachy on anybody, but guys, there's always a way. If Churchill didn't exist, you would find a way to get that extra 40-50 bucks. It's cool they do exist for some of ya'll. I get that. Enjoy the skate, keep on shreddin.

[brooklynbomber718]

relavent because alternate sources of income.

[warco]

You have to remember, companies like Earthwing give back to the community by sponsoring events, hosting events, etc. When you support them, they in turn give back to the skate community. Does Churchill sponsor events? I honestly have no idea. If they do, my point is void. If not, then you have to think about where/how your money is being spent.

Thanks and yes we do. Churchill was a big sponsor of the San Diego Adrenalina Longboard race last month. We donated 3 boards, wheels, grip and 500 in cash. Plus we sponsored the entire after party with drinks on us and giveaways. We supported the race with our rider Matt who placed 11th. Plus we sponsor every local slide jam that comes along. We have 6 flow riders and 4 street riders. We've sponsored Earthwings slide Jam on the east coast with sunglasses. Marryhill, and I don't know, a bunch of stuff. We feed product to athletes all the time. There are giveaways every month. We are also a major sponsor for Michael Brooke's Longboarding for Peace movement. Check that out, it's a good cause. They need more sponsors if any other brands are interested. We also support the industry with full page ads in concrete and a full page of the calender, plus a page in AXS gear mag. All this money is used to help keep the industry's best longboard mag alive. Sorry for the long post.

Next year you will see the launch of our graphics line and we will be looking for more riders.

[DrSkaCtopus]

Just going to leave this here.

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Why can't this thread stay on topic? That topic being Churchill's precision trucks that we're all curious about. Support whoever you want with your wallet, that's the best way to do things. I see nothing wrong with what Churchill is doing and I see nothing wrong with what a majority of the big companies are doing, Although I will always think that 120 for an all wood freeride deck is ridiculous. I can get a shop blank, probably pressed and cut at Watson for around 30. Am I supposed to believe it costs that much more for a slightly longer board? Keep in mind I'm comparing prices to street board prices.

From where I'm standing I can see that longboarding as it's own thing is going through a Renaissance of sorts. There are companies that are being established as the big boys in the game, yet still room for the little guy. Churchill is carving out their own niche and I honestly and completely hope when things and companies get established we see an overall reduction in prices, but that's yet another topic...

[cometbc]

Ok guys should i make a new thread for all you to argue? Im sorry, i mean "debate". Lol....but...i could...

[aFoolOnAHill]

Why can't this thread stay on topic? That topic being Churchill's precision trucks that we're all curious about.

Becuase there isn't any information available about the trucks... when there are no facts to have rediculous opinions about, 'fish still have rediculous opinions

Support whoever you want with your wallet, that's the best way to do things. I see nothing wrong with what Churchill is doing and I see nothing wrong with what a majority of the big companies are doing, Although I will always think that 120 for an all wood freeride deck is ridiculous. I can get a shop blank, probably pressed and cut at Watson for around 30. Am I supposed to believe it costs that much more for a slightly longer board? Keep in mind I'm comparing prices to street board prices.

Sweet, back to talking about something other than these fabled precision trucks...

The way I see it, a graphic and a higher price shows that a company is confident in their product. They put the time and effort into designing something quality instead of just putting out cheap shapes willy nilly. Additionally if you are buy a rider's pro model then you know that some of that money is going directly to that rider.

[DrSkaCtopus]

Becuase there isn't any information available about the trucks... when there are no facts to have rediculous opinions about, 'fish still have rediculous opinions



Sweet, back to talking about something other than these fabled precision trucks...

The way I see it, a graphic and a higher price shows that a company is confident in their product. They put the time and effort into designing something quality instead of just putting out cheap shapes willy nilly. Additionally if you are buy a rider's pro model then you know that some of that money is going directly to that rider.

Alright, let's look at pro model street decks. They generally fall somewhere around 60 bucks, how can any company justify charging double that for a board that's slightly wider and slightly longer? Like I said, it's a wholly different argument, so I won't respond anymore about it after this post (because you know, it really doesn't pertain to this thread at all...) The companies are charging these prices because, for some reason, people are paying these prices. I'm still hoping that the price of stuff will drop at some point. If the construction is different and it isn't just an all wood board I could see paying a little more. I understand that companies have to make an ROI with their new boards, paying off all the R&D and all of that, but still. The big companies should, in my mind have the cheaper prices while the little guys charge more because they literally have to. (I believe that a lot of the progression is made by the little guys out there who take an idea and run with it and build their whole company on such ideas).

Dat's awl. Byeez

[Porygon Two]

I'm not toally certain on this point but I do think a company like Element or even Krooked is selling way more decks than a Comet or an Earthwing, and prices go down based on quantity manufactured. Also with street skating you have to factor in that kids snap or otherwise break their decks more often than kids break their longboards, so they have to pay to replace them more frequently. If you're a fairly good street skater you're probably snapping at least one deck a month whereas I bet most longboarders are getting more than twice the life out of their decks, so Longboard companies have to charge more because they aren't going to get as much repeat customer traffic.

[DrSkaCtopus]

I'm not toally certain on this point but I do think a company like Element or even Krooked is selling way more decks than a Comet or an Earthwing, and prices go down based on quantity manufactured. Also with street skating you have to factor in that kids snap or otherwise break their decks more often than kids break their longboards, so they have to pay to replace them more frequently. If you're a fairly good street skater you're probably snapping at least one deck a month whereas I bet most longboarders are getting more than twice the life out of their decks, so Longboard companies have to charge more because they aren't going to get as much repeat customer traffic.

Said I wasn't going to comment again, but that is a good point..

[aFoolOnAHill]

Yup, my answer was going to be volume... that and chineseness.

[slurryadam]

Silverfish you suck.
You make people butthurt and all.

[BigTreeFallHard]

Yoga shorts would be even better.

Me gusta. I can only hope to see more girls wearing them.
Here's the front view of such a sleek and ergonomic piece of apparel...

[spezadams]

text about who and what you sponsored

If you can name the individual events you've sponsored, you're blowing it. Get out there and sponsor all the legit races/jams. Thats like me saying I've skated gmr x amount of times, this road this many times etc. No one cares exactly what you've sponsored, just the fact that your sponsoring events is good. This thread was derailed a long time ago, so heres the yoga pants

[J B Scribbz]

I'm not toally certain on this point but I do think a company like Element or even Krooked is selling way more decks than a Comet or an Earthwing, and prices go down based on quantity manufactured. Also with street skating you have to factor in that kids snap or otherwise break their decks more often than kids break their longboards, so they have to pay to replace them more frequently. If you're a fairly good street skater you're probably snapping at least one deck a month whereas I bet most longboarders are getting more than twice the life out of their decks, so Longboard companies have to charge more because they aren't going to get as much repeat customer traffic.

If I could buy "pro" longboard decks for $60 a piece I would buy them as often as I buy my street decks just to try new stuff.