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Old 10-22-2008, 06:48 PM   #21
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I'd drive down to North Carolina to race. If people wanted to get to me and then carpool with me I'd be down with that. Rayzor you can take may I'll go with late June then instead. Justin's race at Mountain Lake should be the beginning of June (the weekend of the 5th I think).

I feel that more than one event a month will be a complete drain on everyones bank accounts. I already don't know how I will get to all these AND go to races off this coast....I need to find a good job for the summer and save all the money I make at my job here at school which isn't much and I want to buy microphones too....too little money and time.

Also don't forget that each event MUST, I repeat, MUST have freeriding following it. Wheels must be destroyed or it is not a good weekend.
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Old 10-22-2008, 06:51 PM   #22
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Final round is slopestyle. Top 15 race.


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i may be dreaming, but it is possible for there to be enough quality events on the east coast that you wouldnt have to travel to too many off-the-east events. carpooling is also helpful.
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Another NC freeride...lil swiz would be a fun outlaw race.
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chris I may need a ride to that race

Also if there were to be a race in raleigh would people prefer a long fairly straight hill that is about 40-45 or a shorter corse with a concrete corner on a bike path with a wooden bridge at the end that could be the "finish" line. That one is about 30 but extremely difficult to corner alone I can't imagine it withtwo or three or four people racing.
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we definitely need to have this communication open so that we do not overlap anything.
i am sure that i will be spearheading the event in hbg-u guys can pm me -may sound crazy but a conference call may be in order between all the organizers, to work out formats and dates. maybe each group runs it as they wish just to mix it up.
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i would like to have a slower race and an upper level mid range race
probably more drag style
perhaps others will do gs/slide and more technical
just throwing this out there but i'm thinkin a weekend session that people just get "challenged" by others to race.
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if were having one in nc, its gonna be in the mountains. nothhhing special in raleigh that would worth so much gas money. i vote on lil swiss. or bhr..

does anyone want to do a slalom outlaw? pm me if you do, i can get that set up.
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we do have a lot of excelent slalom hills if I must say so my self. But seriously what would yall prefer if there was one in Raleigh say after the slalom.
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Default Re: 2009 East Coast Outlaw Downhill Series

we also have a hill here that is an amazing slide hill... , i can also get most roads closed off here, i have some conncetions thru the parks and rec. but are main hybrid slalom hill is in a parking lot where not alot of cars ever go thru

lets make a poll...

big hill road/181-

or big swiss-

everyone just pick one.

edit: come january or febuary, i will be hosting a slalom event. not outlaw.. i have about 5 sponsers lined up , and it will be in raleigh. there is a charity it is for, that is very important to me.. pm me if interested
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Default Re: 2009 East Coast Outlaw Downhill Series

STOKED! I have some pretty good ideas for overall "series" formats so when I have some time tomorrow I'll type them all out. I think it would be cool if each race had something unique so the overall winner would be the one who can ride the best on all types of hills (drafting, cornering, crazy straights, ect.) I'm going to check out a supposedly 2-mile long hill with several hairpins soon. If its a go I'm down to organize one here. If not then I can do a little race, but nothing too fast because all of the fast-ish hills around here are residential neighborhoods.

Also I'm down to be one of the people keeping track of the points in the series.
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it would be wise to have a few people keeping track of the scores in case one messes up
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Keep your eyes open for Street-Missile races in 2009 aswell, try not to overlap with Ontario/Quebec races as some of us wnat to attend your events and some of y'all wanna attend our events.

I'll be putting on an outlaws in the depths of Mount-Royal.
and an east coast Slopestyle Nontest in the spring.
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Old 10-22-2008, 08:55 PM   #33
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We need more nontests. I need to go to Canada as well...

Also we need to determine a points system for the series. I'll be a score keeper. That's an easy job. We should do registrations before hand too to get estimates on number of people and make it easier for logistics race day. You could still just show unannounced and it wouldn't be a problem but online confrimation only helps.
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if by nontest u mean just riding
i'll host one in nov
i realize some will not be able to come to the whole series
so i am assuming we will each have a contest with prizes
then we will have an ending event where the overall winners get recognized
ok
so i am gonna commit to a 25mph beginners race
sat eve

sat morn prelims
sun race
this will be a 40mph drag style race
best to do prelims and final on 2 days/ 2 spots
cut down on the bust factor

this will be in may with a rain date
is everyone cool with that?

open to exact dates, format and any other input
and yes i agree, we mostly will need people to sign up early

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Default Re: 2009 East Coast Outlaw Downhill Series

I've just recently picked up a Demonseed and starting to DH, but if the race or free ride isn't over my head, I'd love to be there. I go to school in Raleigh, but I live west, in Hickory. I've seen a couple video of Little Switzerland, and it looked awesome. I was actually planning to go up there some time in December for fun.
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AJ- slopestyle nontest would be fcking awesome. I'm thinking of hosting something similar in white plains.

ray- I doubt I could do a two day deal... its much easier to keep everything on one day, racing should only be like 2 hours of the day anyways. And imo.... a straight run is just boring (except if its really fast- like 50 + because thats when drafts become really noticeable) , even when racing, a race can be slow but turns are what makes racing fun.The sultans of speed outlaw is only like 35 tops but going through that 90 degree turn 4 wide is so much fun. So like even if most of the race is straight, at least one corner should be included imo.

Oh and slopestyle nontest is this type of deal- steep as #### roads but not racing, just getting down as stylishly as possible- big standup slides, switch drifts, etc.: http://vimeo.com/1703337
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yeah, i got just the road!
Pat you gotta come back on spring break!
point system by Fast Freddy...if you come in 1st you get one point if you come in 2nd you get 2.

The series point count is like golf, the one with the smallest point count wins.
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i think for the series points we should take into account the # of riders in each race somehow. if only 4 guys show up for one, the guy in last would have 4 points which seems unfair to the person who got 4th in a race of 40 guys. also if you only go to one race, and get first, you have one point at the end of the series. instead if someone gets 1st in a race of 40 people, they should get 40 points, if someone gets first in a race of 4 people, they get 4 points. highest total points at the end of the series wins. also, chances are most riders wont be able to make all of the races, so if you still do well in the races you do attend, you can still do well overall.

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Also take in consideration if a race will have heats of 2 or 3, for small road races.
and wide roads with heats of 4 or more racers. some racers will end up with really big point counts at the end of big road races.

How does marcus do this, man, i really hate point-chasing to be honest....
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You could divide place by number of people and do smallest amount of points that way. So... winning first in a race of 40 would be 1/40th of a point, and winning 1st in a race of 4 would give you a 1/4 point.

Winning 40th out of 40 people gives a whole point, so unless I'm not taking something into account, that would work. You could also multiply all the points by 100 or something to make it a little easier and make the numbers a little nicer so we're not dealing with decimals as much.
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