Boarder vs. Cyclers.

[Camel]

The only bikers that give me problems are the pseudo professional idiots that think they own the trail because they can afford a 3000 dollar bike and a lycra suit. The rest of them are pretty chill. It's always bad when peeps take themselves too seriously.

el animal and jamesonyo, get a room. ALG is right, in most states, bikes are required to act as a motor vehicle. Just be nice and go around them, you would expect the same. The only way to make changes to others behavior is to first change your behavior.

[LeSueur264]

Ok, I think I have one story to share here.

A woman riding a bike with a bell on it does not count as a real cyclist.

[Cann0n]

interesting...

though, i hope my point still holds that the bmx protest was for flatland bikers

I was just throwing my 2 cents in. But yeah, I agree with you.

[msk]

BMX stands for Bicycle Motor Cross and there is a BMX track in every city in every country. How can they petition for something that already exists.

To the best of my knowledge, there are only 2 BMX tracks in all of Los Angeles County. Contrast that to several dozens of skateparks all around the county.

And today, the majority of BMX riders don't race, so a track, if one is located nearby, is useless to them. Kind of like the city telling us we don't need a skatepark because there's a hill we can race on...

If they want to do something with their bikes that they weren't made for than that's their problem.

Many "BMX" bikes are not designed for off-road use at all. Several are designed specifically for flatland freestyle, or street, or parks. Different construction, different components, different frame geometry/handling characteristics. "BMX" is just a convenient catch-all name, and besides, the original BMX bikes evolved from a bike not designed to be jumped or used in the dirt. So back in 1970, if you were riding BMX on a track, you were using the bike for something it wasn't made for

And since when does a name dictate what can and cannot be done with something? If that were true, as skateboarders we couldn't use parking garages, drainage ditches, swimming pools, handrails, sidewalks, etc. For that matter, skateboards used to be called "sidewalk surfboards", so I guess the only place we should be allowed to use them is on the sidewalks (except those are only for "walking"...)

[AlG]

A woman riding a bike with a bell on it does not count as a real cyclist.

Bike bells are awesome! Saves your breath and people get outta your way.
Some skater had a pic of him with a bike bell on his helmet. Great idea! BING!

[leadfoot]

I agree,... yelling or clapping pucks sometimes scares people. A bell is a friendly way to let people know you are coming.

[-Mu-]

The road is one thing, but using the single lane MADE FOR MOTORIZED VEHICLES when a shoulder is available.............

Seriously, bicyclists are encouraged to take the center of the lane. It is the safest thing for them to do, if they don't their life gets a lot riskier.


And remember people it's a MAXIMUM speed limit, not a minimum and not a requirement.

[Cann0n]

Seriously, bicyclists are encouraged to take the center of the lane. It is the safest thing for them to do, if they don't their life gets a lot riskier.


And remember people it's a MAXIMUM speed limit, not a minimum and not a requirement.

I personally encourage them not to ride on narrow curvy mountain roads. I knew a kid back in highschool that hit a cyclist going down a mountain. It broke his side mirror off and chunks of hair covered flesh and blood was all over his door panel and right A post. He said the cyclist was on in the center of a road. It was either hit the cyclist or veer off the road and down the mountain.

I would have sh!t myself. I know the cyclist was hurt. Parts of his scalp were stuck on the broken part of the side mirror. He said the cyclist got up and said he was fine and they parted. I would have gave the dude a ride to the hospital because I mean dude.. I saw chucks of the guys scalp and blood... it was nasty. Dudes... it's no joke.

I had a teacher that cycled. He showed be his ex-rays where a car ran him off the road and down a ravine. He said he was air lifted to Grady and spend a few weeks in the hospital and had major reconstructive surgery in his leg. I think he broke some ribs too.

[Shift]

I personally encourage them not to ride on narrow curvy mountain roads. I knew a kid back in highschool that hit a cyclist going down a mountain. It broke his side mirror off and chunks of hair covered flesh and blood was all over his door panel and right A post. He said the cyclist was on in the center of a road. It was either hit the cyclist or veer off the road and down the mountain.

I would have sh!t myself. I know the cyclist was hurt. Parts of his scalp were stuck on the broken part of the side mirror. He said the cyclist got up and said he was fine and they parted. I would have gave the dude a ride to the hospital because I mean dude.. I saw chucks of the guys scalp and blood... it was nasty. Dudes... it's no joke.

I had a teacher that cycled. He showed be his ex-rays where a car ran him off the road and down a ravine. He said he was air lifted to Grady and spend a few weeks in the hospital and had major reconstructive surgery in his leg. I think he broke some ribs too.

He said middle of the lane, not middle of the road.

besides, sidewalks are sketch at anything over 10mph on a bike.

WTF sorta bike are you riding? I bomb sidewalks near my house at 30 on my bike, bunny hopping curbs, manualing crappy pavement, and dodging trash cans and mail boxes (which are in the middle of the sidewalk because the county decided it's be better to pour the concrete around te post instead of moving it).

[Cann0n]

He said middle of the lane, not middle of the road.



WTF sorta bike are you riding? I bomb sidewalks near my house at 30 on my bike, bunny hopping curbs, manualing crappy pavement, and dodging trash cans and mail boxes (which are in the middle of the sidewalk because the county decided it's be better to pour the concrete around te post instead of moving it).

It was those cross country Lance Armstrongs, complete with spandex and water bottles. I don't remember last time I rode a bike. It's been so long. I ride motorcycles though. I gots a bad knee from years of skating lol.

[leadfoot]

Terrible story Cannon.
The guy was going up while the cyclist was coming down??
Same thing could happen to us downhillers pretty easily.

[coercive]

Bike bells are awesome! Saves your breath and people get outta your way.
Some skater had a pic of him with a bike bell on his helmet. Great idea! BING!

I'm going to mount either a whistle or a train whistle to my board so people will hear me coming. it's going to be amazing.

see also: string of cans

[a_speck_of_dust]

my dad skinned his right leg from ankle to hip from hitting a pothole, he told me he mustve slid about 20ft from his bike. he got back up on his bike and rode himself to the hospital, and when he called my mom she was more pissed than worried. lol.

[thumper07]

I've always been into extreme sports. When I was young, and into my motocross days, I remember saying to my friends "I don't understand why old people are so afraid to get hurt...........they're going to die soon anyway"

Now that I'm older, and still into extreme sports, I can say that it's not the fear of getting hurt that's the problem.

But, just like above, it's that I have responsibilities now that can't be inhibited by any injury I might have. When I was young, all I did was sit in class. So, who the heck cares if I'm injured or not? Plus, being injured in school helped me pick up a lot of chicks

[Bookworm]

He said middle of the lane, not middle of the road.



WTF sorta bike are you riding? I bomb sidewalks near my house at 30 on my bike, bunny hopping curbs, manualing crappy pavement, and dodging trash cans and mail boxes (which are in the middle of the sidewalk because the county decided it's be better to pour the concrete around te post instead of moving it).

I........don't?

I really don't feel comfortable on a bike, I ride in the road. Besides, it sounds like with what you're doing, you're one tiny mistake away from a gnarly crash, which seems pretty sketch to me. Whether or not you succeed, it's still sketch to be dodging obstacles on a skinny ass path at high speeds.

[(Android)]

He said middle of the lane, not middle of the road.



WTF sorta bike are you riding? I bomb sidewalks near my house at 30 on my bike, bunny hopping curbs, manualing crappy pavement, and dodging trash cans and mail boxes (which are in the middle of the sidewalk because the county decided it's be better to pour the concrete around te post instead of moving it).

Do you ride BMX?

[Shift]

Do you ride BMX?

I would never ride a bike I couldn't bunnyhop. Takes away too much versatility in the suburbs or downtown. Yeah, I mainly ride a BMX now, but I've ridden other types of bikes before and a road bike wouldn't survive how I ride.

Saw a lot of fixies downtown at the Red Bull Soap Box Race yesterday. I still don't understand the allure.

[-Mu-]

I personally encourage them not to ride on narrow curvy mountain roads. I knew a kid back in highschool that hit a cyclist going down a mountain. It broke his side mirror off and chunks of hair covered flesh and blood was all over his door panel and right A post. He said the cyclist was on in the center of a road. It was either hit the cyclist or veer off the road and down the mountain.

I would have sh!t myself. I know the cyclist was hurt. Parts of his scalp were stuck on the broken part of the side mirror. He said the cyclist got up and said he was fine and they parted. I would have gave the dude a ride to the hospital because I mean dude.. I saw chucks of the guys scalp and blood... it was nasty. Dudes... it's no joke.

I had a teacher that cycled. He showed be his ex-rays where a car ran him off the road and down a ravine. He said he was air lifted to Grady and spend a few weeks in the hospital and had major reconstructive surgery in his leg. I think he broke some ribs too.

I also kind of question the speed this guy was driving at. I stay under speed limit, and adjust for corners I know have low visibility. I tend to want to avoid ruining someone's day with my car. Drive safe kids, for everyone else, not for you.

[msk]

Bike bells are awesome! Saves your breath and people get outta your way.
Some skater had a pic of him with a bike bell on his helmet. Great idea! BING!

Some countries actually require that all bikes sold be equipped with a bell.

[msk]

I knew a kid back in highschool that hit a cyclist going down a mountain. It broke his side mirror off and chunks of hair covered flesh and blood was all over his door panel and right A post. He said the cyclist was on in the center of a road. It was either hit the cyclist or veer off the road and down the mountain.

Something is *really* wrong in this scenario. If the cyclist were in the middle of the road, in order to have the damage/blood on the right side of the vehicle, the car would've had to have been on the left side of the road, not the right, which puts your friend at least as much at fault as the cyclist. Unless the cyclist was not in the center of the road, but actually over in the opposing lane, assuming the two were going in opposite directions. Which would then make the accident the cyclist's fault for being on the wrong side of the road, but still doesn't explain how the impact was on the right side. Unless the cyclist was so far past the center that he was almost on the opposing shoulder. And if they were both going in the same direction, that puts your friend 100% at fault.

But in any case, this isn't an example of how being on a bike on a mountain road is inherently unsafe. Rather, it shows what can happen when either the driver or the cyclist does something illegal...