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Re: The cure to speed wobbles
 Originally Posted by schwaf
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What I meant when I said lock your ankles, is not to stiffen up your body, but to keep your ankles firm and recenter the board under you. Takes a whole lot of angle strength, but if you can get it down, you can hold it out through any wobbles. (This is all while in a tuck BTW) And the footbreaking part, I say these things to avoid bailing all-together. If you can hold your balance enough to get that foot down, you'll slow down and start to get more steady. Obviously you can't do this going super fast, but for slower speeds its quite effective.
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Re: The cure to speed wobbles
I think the best advice to give about speed wobbles is to not panic, most of the time people fall from speed wobbles is because they freak out and jump off. Whenever I get speed wobbles I get lower, concentrate on my balance, keep my weight in the center of the board, and think about getting to a spot where I can slow down.
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Re: The cure to speed wobbles
I am personally a fan of the air plane approach. Sticking out your arms in the middle of a wobble increases your moment of inertia and makes you more stable and gives you a little more balance. and I have been saying this for years....
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Re: The cure to speed wobbles
 Originally Posted by WolfOnWheels
What I meant when I said lock your ankles, is not to stiffen up your body, but to keep your ankles firm and recenter the board under you. Takes a whole lot of angle strength, but if you can get it down, you can hold it out through any wobbles. (This is all while in a tuck BTW) And the footbreaking part, I say these things to avoid bailing all-together. If you can hold your balance enough to get that foot down, you'll slow down and start to get more steady. Obviously you can't do this going super fast, but for slower speeds its quite effective.
Don't forget about wind breaking, most people think that it doesn't make much of a difference in speed but it does if you do it right. Exit the tuck position and spread your arms out like a T. This will create wind resistance, and once you get slow enough lightly put your foot on the surface of the pavement, don't stomp on it, once you feel the pavement underneath your foot them press on the pavement. But this is not a good way to slow down. Best way to control your speed is a speed check : )
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Re: The cure to speed wobbles
 Originally Posted by schwaf
...kooks spout out nonsense. Sorry if I've offended you all
That's not hypocritical.
 Originally Posted by schwaf
If, say, bailing into grass was the best option (which it isn't), that limits you to only roads with areas with grass, and you will still get hurt regardless. Theres also no guarantee you'll make it into the grass as the forward momentum will still launch you... forward. If you're riding in front of people, bailing like that is rather unappreciated.
 I said if POSSIBLE. I didn't say "don't ride anywhere that doesn't have grass near it", you idiot. That's ridiculous. And yeah, if you fall, it's pretty expected that you're going to get hurt. Once again, in reference to the "guarantee you'll make it", I said IF POSSIBLE. Way to take #### literally You're such a full-of-yourself toolbag.
If people are looking for wobble advice in the manner that the OP was asking, chances are that they aren't going 100mph bombing. I think that grass is a reasonable alternative to pavement, considering most new riders don't have gloves/kneepads.
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People shouldn't be going at speeds they can't handle in the first place. If you don't have gloves and don't know how to coleman, what are you doing bombing a 30+ hill? People gotta learn to walk before they can run.
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Re: The cure to speed wobbles
 Originally Posted by Beeks
 That's not hypocritical.
  I said if POSSIBLE. I didn't say "don't ride anywhere that doesn't have grass near it", you idiot. That's ridiculous. And yeah, if you fall, it's pretty expected that you're going to get hurt. Once again, in reference to the "guarantee you'll make it", I said IF POSSIBLE. Way to take #### literally  You're such a full-of-yourself toolbag.
If people are looking for wobble advice in the manner that the OP was asking, chances are that they aren't going 100mph bombing. I think that grass is a reasonable alternative to pavement, considering most new riders don't have gloves/kneepads.
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and about the argument over rolling or getting to your hands and feet when you fall. If you do indeed have knee pads and slide gloves that's your best bet, but if you're falling with out pads, a roll is better than a sliding on your skin. You break up your speed over a much longer period of time, it's like a series of very small crashes. Sticking skin to pavement is a pretty nasty result.
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Re: The cure to speed wobbles
 Originally Posted by fuzzy_nickels
cry while reading the fish much?^^^
and about the argument over rolling or getting to your hands and feet when you fall. If you do indeed have knee pads and slide gloves that's your best bet, but if you're falling with out pads, a roll is better than a sliding on your skin. You break up your speed over a much longer period of time, it's like a series of very small crashes. Sticking skin to pavement is a pretty nasty result.
I would say the best answer isn't then to roll your body but to shift side to side in a controlled (as best possible) skid. I'd try to get my sides and hips the most.
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Re: The cure to speed wobbles
 Originally Posted by WolfOnWheels
What I meant when I said lock your ankles, is not to stiffen up your body, but to keep your ankles firm and recenter the board under you. Takes a whole lot of angle strength, but if you can get it down, you can hold it out through any wobbles. (This is all while in a tuck BTW) And the footbreaking part, I say these things to avoid bailing all-together. If you can hold your balance enough to get that foot down, you'll slow down and start to get more steady. Obviously you can't do this going super fast, but for slower speeds its quite effective.
Fair enough, I apologize for the confusion then.
 Originally Posted by Beeks
 That's not hypocritical.
  I said if POSSIBLE. I didn't say "don't ride anywhere that doesn't have grass near it", you idiot. That's ridiculous. And yeah, if you fall, it's pretty expected that you're going to get hurt. Once again, in reference to the "guarantee you'll make it", I said IF POSSIBLE. Way to take #### literally  You're such a full-of-yourself toolbag.
If people are looking for wobble advice in the manner that the OP was asking, chances are that they aren't going 100mph bombing. I think that grass is a reasonable alternative to pavement, considering most new riders don't have gloves/kneepads.
Basically, fuc`k you 
Actually, it's not hypocritical. It may be a contradiction, but it's hardly hypocritical. Unless of course you would like to elaborate on that. I've said no words of nonsense and frankly speaking, you did. I'd like you to point out where you said "IF POSSIBLE", because I must be damn illiterate to not be able to see that in your post I quoted. Your post suggested that you assumed he'd be riding around grass, which isn't always the case. Oh, but wait, you told him to pray. Useful. He asked for wobble advice, and I told him not to listen to that bunk. After explaining why I disagreed with you, I quoted someone who had useful advice. I don't know about you, but I'd rather someone teach me how to not fall, than someone pointing out that grass is softer than pavement. Why? Because it's relevant to all speeds and terrain. And yeah, if you do fall then you can get hurt. But that's not always the case. It's a matter of knowing how to fall, which comes with experience. Also, I never said he had to have slide gloves, because no matter how much padding you have, it's always better to not fall at all. It's just a good idea to have them when you do fall. Like I said before, good riders will still get wobbles, but good riders also know how to cope with them.
So in your words - Way to take #### literally You're such a full-of-yourself toobag. Cry Moar
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Re: The cure to speed wobbles
 Originally Posted by schwaf
Actually, it's not hypocritical. It may be a contradiction, but it's hardly hypocritical. Unless of course you would like to elaborate on that. I've said no words of nonsense and frankly speaking, you did. I'd like you to point out where you said "IF POSSIBLE", because I must be damn illiterate to not be able to see that in your post I quoted. Your post suggested that you assumed he'd be riding around grass, which isn't always the case. Oh, but wait, you told him to pray. Useful. He asked for wobble advice, and I told him not to listen to that bunk. After explaining why I disagreed with you, I quoted someone who had useful advice. I don't know about you, but I'd rather someone teach me how to not fall, than someone pointing out that grass is softer than pavement. Why? Because it's relevant to all speeds and terrain. And yeah, if you do fall then you can get hurt. But that's not always the case. It's a matter of knowing how to fall, which comes with experience. Also, I never said he had to have slide gloves, because no matter how much padding you have, it's always better to not fall at all. It's just a good idea to have them when you do fall. Like I said before, good riders will still get wobbles, but good riders also know how to cope with them.
So in your words - Way to take #### literally  You're such a full-of-yourself toobag. Cry Moar
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Re: The cure to speed wobbles
 Originally Posted by WolfOnWheels
lol
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Believe me, I'm not trying to be a troll or be a dick (poorly I might add). I just don't like being called out when I can justify every word I said, so I'll defend my stance. I felt that there was bad advice running around this thread, and I couldn't keep myself from chiming in. I will say that regarding your post I figured you meant to footbreak while wobbing, and anyone who's tried that (I know I have) will quickly realize it was a mistake. So I take back my offensive words towards you.
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Re: The cure to speed wobbles
 Originally Posted by Nerd de Burque
all i know is i won't be caught without pads and gloves in any kind of high speed fall, ever
rolling will not save you from road rash. youre going to hit the pavement faster than you can think "maybe i should roll"
Not as true as you might think... Muscle memory is an amazing thing. Granted every time I fall I don't have a series of decisions that I make prior to hitting the pavement... but I have taught my self to roll when I hit, and that's more from a point to reduce blunt impact. I utilize this idea more in street skating when I bail out on a high speed gap. All depends on the crash, and it really is a good idea to avoid serious injury while crashing.
martial artist are trained to slap the pavement if they get knocked down in order to reduce the rest of the momentum and impact away from their core, essentially rolling in the same, but hell... wear pads, don't fall, and you'll be all good
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Re: The cure to speed wobbles
HOLD ON
this is a rant, anything said is completely something thought off the top of my head, may be true, might not be, but hey, what ev's
when you get speedwobbles, you enter into something called "simple harmonic motion"
any attempt to "fix" them will lead to a constructive interference, thus leading them to increase in amplitude
the best you can do is make your body a damper, which means you do nothing, you just calm yourself and ride ' em out like nothing is happening and the wobbles will subdue.
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Re: The cure to speed wobbles
I've gotten the wobbles plenty of times, but so far I've been able to ride them out each time. A few times it got really sketchy, and very, very close to a death wobble. I try to gradually put more weight on my front foot, hold my arms out for balance and air breaking. If that doesn't help, I'll go into a drop knee, and ride them out like that.
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Re: The cure to speed wobbles
Just try to ride them out. I realize i pretty much do the opposite of what most people say to do, which is get down low and small, i usually throw my arms out a little to catch my balance and come up a little from my tuck. Just remember to stay calm and relaxed and don't panic.
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Re: The cure to speed wobbles
 Originally Posted by schwaf
Fair enough, I apologize for the confusion then.
Actually, it's not hypocritical. It may be a contradiction, but it's hardly hypocritical. Unless of course you would like to elaborate on that. I've said no words of nonsense and frankly speaking, you did. I'd like you to point out where you said "IF POSSIBLE", because I must be damn illiterate to not be able to see that in your post I quoted. Your post suggested that you assumed he'd be riding around grass, which isn't always the case. Oh, but wait, you told him to pray. Useful. He asked for wobble advice, and I told him not to listen to that bunk. After explaining why I disagreed with you, I quoted someone who had useful advice. I don't know about you, but I'd rather someone teach me how to not fall, than someone pointing out that grass is softer than pavement. Why? Because it's relevant to all speeds and terrain. And yeah, if you do fall then you can get hurt. But that's not always the case. It's a matter of knowing how to fall, which comes with experience. Also, I never said he had to have slide gloves, because no matter how much padding you have, it's always better to not fall at all. It's just a good idea to have them when you do fall. Like I said before, good riders will still get wobbles, but good riders also know how to cope with them.
So in your words - Way to take #### literally  You're such a full-of-yourself toobag. Cry Moar
You've crossed the bounds into obvious troll-dom. There's just a certain point where you have to start being ridiculous to get a reaction, and we've reached it. You had me going for a bit, though. Bravo!
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