Gravity Flow... WTF?

[Ephran]

I had heard that the Gravity Flow video was awesome. So, I got a copy and was very dissapointed. In fact all of it sucked pretty bad except for the Sergio and Cliff Coleman parts.
This video was just 2 hours of Coleman slides and sub-par tricks performed on slightly larger popsicles. Extreme!! I just really want to know why everyone thinks that's a good video, because, honestly, It sucks pretty bad.

[bpz]

You know what I think?

YOU suck pretty bad.

[Crappysurfer]

i am going to agree with everything you(ephran) just said

[Stop The Insanity]

The question that has to be asked now is... what did you expect to see?

[xrayvzn]

Can we compare this video to the Ephran flow video first?

[Bigal5567]

the deal is, flow is old. that stuff was awesome at the time, the coleman slides that take up most of the vid were sick then. sliding has progressed so much since that was made. and the park skating...i do agree, roger milhalko's part consisits of close to 4 tricks, frontside airs, boneless's, backside grinds and maybe something else. but serg's part was sick, and yancey meyers backflips? ridiculous.

bottom line, flow 2 comes out and i'm all over it.

[mc99david]

good to know its old, i was thinking the same thing... i'm watching the park parts thinking.."i've been skating for less than two years and i can do a lot of this" - that also got me kinda stoked thinking that if i can do that now then in a couple years i can maybe make a team longboarding, its like all i need to do is get a 35 inch board instead of a 32 then the standards to get a video part are way easier...

anyway, lookin forward to flow 2, it will be nice to see it before its all old news

[Stop The Insanity]

i've been skating for less than two years and i can do a lot of this"

Like what? Plese tell, I'm interested.

Flow definitely has its less than stellar parts (and a few that should've been left out) but to say it "sucks" as a whole is stupid beyond belief. As for the Coleman slide... I'd rather watch people who can execute it perfectly and with style actually going fast down a hill than some geek who does slow, ugly technical slides on his driveway on a $400 "slide setup".

its like all i need to do is get a 35 inch board instead of a 32 then the standards to get a video part are way easier...

Do you even realize how good someone like Brad Edwards is?

I recommend you watch his part (and the extras) again and stop expecting him to kickflip a ten set.

[CRASS]

I'd rather watch people ... with style, actually going fast down a hill than some geek who does slow, ugly technical slides on his driveway on a $400 "slide setup".

Amen!
Good equiptment doesnt make you a good skater, it makes you either a spoiled kid or bad with money if your setup isnt built out of nessecity.
Real good skaters skate damn good on ANY board of any price level.. and it always shows. many of the G team are good examples of that,but so many other skaters out there, whether they excell in slalom or whatever else.

[metothemax]

i get bored with videos its better to take them in small doses

[Mile_High_Mark]

I don't think I've ever watched an entire video non-stop. Either I don't have the attention span for 'em (ooh look, a shiny object), or I actually want to skate.

Everyone has different expectations about pros, videos, etc.

[jshalvorsen]

From what I've seen of Flow seems pretty cool. Yes its old, and maybe alot of the slides etc. isn't that technical. But think about it, who did helmetslides even just a year ago? Thats right.. NO ONE. This year Sliding has exploded and become much more popular than earlier and the tricks have become THAT much more technical. I for one don't like alot of the new hyperfast tricky slides at all. And the same goes for skiing and snowboarding. I'd rather see style than crippled technical tricks just as Crass and Stop the Insanity already has mentioned.

Flow is old, and then you have to expect to see old skating. Just because people think it's a great movie doesn't mean that it's new and revolutionary now. In fact, how many really great longboard dvd's are out there? It's not many, I can tell you that.. Should I be dissapointed that no one does 1080's and mctwists in the pools in Dogtown and Z-Boys?

[Roodog]

Some of the stuff in flow may look easy (its not, BTW) but remember no one was riding park like that on 40+inch boards like those guys (Parker, Edwards, blah, blah). Its all relative. You can watch some really early 80's street videos where the most tech trick was a kickflip and say "So what?" Point is they put in to video first.
Its called being original and taking a risk, building a foundation. You cant compare it to what comes later, wouldnt be fair.

[mc99david]

Like what? Plese tell, I'm interested.

Flow definitely has its less than stellar parts (and a few that should've been left out) but to say it "sucks" as a whole is stupid beyond belief. As for the Coleman slide... I'd rather watch people who can execute it perfectly and with style actually going fast down a hill than some geek who does slow, ugly technical slides on his driveway on a $400 "slide setup".




Do you even realize how good someone like Brad Edwards is?

I recommend you watch his part (and the extras) again and stop expecting him to kickflip a ten set.

i wasnt expecting tech street skating, but i was expecting the park stuff to be beyond what i see guys pullin at my local park, and that part of it just wasnt all that great. I cant comment on the slide portions of it because i'm just not realy into that stuff much so i have no idea what i'm talking about, but that portion was fun to watch, but i was a little bored and disapointed afterwards, and havnt bothered watching it since.

and if someone were to kickflip a tenset i would still be bored and disapointed by it, i have numberouse friends that can do that... its defitly hard to do, as was most of the stuff in the video... so yes it was difficult tricks, just not as over the top as i often expect vids to be. the gravity part in the evelutions cd was way better i thought, and very impressive.

[Stop The Insanity]

if someone were to kickflip a tenset i would still be bored and disapointed by it, i have numberouse friends that can do that...

Yeah. It was just the first cliche that popped into my head.

[sniffleless]

Are we comparing the skating in Flow to shortboard videos and shortboard tricks in general?Are yuo talking about your friends doing all those tricks on shortboards or longboards?

[MalakaiKingston]

I honestly can't understand this thread...

Flow although it is old is one of the most engaging LONGBOARDING and SLIDING videos to ever be produced. For its time it was showing the world something that had never been seen by a mainstream audience.

As for "being able to do what they can do" BE would own any of you today, sergio would own any of you today, hell even some of the gravity groms would own most of you, and they all would be more than happy, hell even stoked to ride with you...

Call it a challenge hell yea, show up or shut up, you produce a video that is as enlightening NOW as flow was when it came out.

Gooooood luck, and can't wait to see what you come up with.


(I honestly can think of a few people that are GOOD STOKE that do give visually both of their craft and of the love of what they do, and they know who they are)

[T.V.A.R.]

I agree with Ephran. That video is a big disappointment. I didn't find it engaging at all. Actually it took me 3 tries to get through it because almost every rider was doing the same stuff on similar terrain. They were executing all of their moves very well and I do have respect of all of the riders, but I think the video could have been easily an hour shorter.

[AGENT WD-40]

Yeah for real Malakai. I have watched that video countless times. I have skated personally with a few G-Riders too and they rip hands down. The kind of feeling I get from watching that video is insane. You know a skate video is good if it makes you turn it off half-way through so you can go skate. That video came out when? Like 2002 maybe? Meaning alot of that footage is like 5-6 years old. Every single person I have showed that video to is blown away, even my shortboarding friends. So bud, until you can throw up some footage showing you ripping up parks and streets like those guys, I suggest you suck a fat one...Thanks and come again.

If you want a video to show you gnarly street and pool skating, pick up any of the Thrasher Beer Series vids...I just got Shotgun and it was worth every penny.

[mc99david]

ok.. maybe to rephrase this a little better... I'm not saying that those guys suck, or anything like that... they are very good skaters... Its more that the tricks all looked attainable. I'm used to watching vids (and maybe it is from watching to many snowboard vids and short board vids) and seeing something that i could never even dream of ever doing, and seeing tricks pulled that i've never seen anyone pull off in real life.

so i saw that vid and did not realize that it was older stuff and it all looked like stuff that, if i worked real hard for a couple years, i could be there for a lot of it, and definitly some of the guys i've ridden with can pull of a lot of that stuff on their longboards. now going head to head with these guys i'm sure they are more well rounded skaters than anyone i know, and i dont realy know any one person that can do everything in there, but i had seen a lot of it done before, so just didnt find it all that exciting, and feel that i've seen some better skating in other longboard vids i've seen clips of on here.

anyway, i hope that clears it up... not trying to say i'm better than them, or that i ever will be, but the gap just wasnt as far as i'm used to it being when i see a vid.