Fiberglassing without a bag 101

**Superguitarninja** · 03-12-2009 06:09 PM

Sweet action. Thanks for all your help.

**.secrets** · 03-12-2009 06:13 PM

Originally Posted by duckhunt

well, i have the board in my room now and it get to sit in the sun for 6hours or so.
how long do you think it'll take to fully cure now?

when glassing, you will get the best results by laying it "wet on wet." Meaning while the first layer is wet, lay up another layer right away.

**Dkofnrc** · 03-21-2009 08:11 PM

if anyone needs any glass work, carbon, plugs, molds. pm me. I'm up in the vancouver,wa portland area. Or just wanna throw some ideas around.
DK

**Superguitarninja** · 03-22-2009 12:54 PM

Well, I got my board all fiber glassed up. I have it setting in the press now. Hopefully it comes out ok.

**ryanredbaron** · 03-22-2009 04:35 PM

One question, i am vacuum pressing a board, i plan on using a wood core for the first few, i heard to use :

20 oz triax knitted glass

i found:
20oz Warp Triaxial E-Glass 50" Wide

what the heck does the warp and e-glass part mean?

**Dkofnrc** · 03-23-2009 06:44 PM

Originally Posted by ryanredbaron

One question, i am vacuum pressing a board, i plan on using a wood core for the first few, i heard to use :

20 oz triax knitted glass

i found:
20oz Warp Triaxial E-Glass 50" Wide

what the heck does the warp and e-glass part mean?

Where did you see this glass? Web site?
DK

**ryanredbaron** · 03-23-2009 06:58 PM

Fiberglass Supply (Surfboards, Windsurfers, Kayaks, Canoes, Boats , Autos and more)

their online catalog

knitted fabrics (on side bar) -> halfway down the page:
C74-4325 20OZ WARP TRIAXIAL E-GLASS 50" WIDE

**Dkofnrc** · 03-23-2009 07:30 PM

What that looks like to me is some thing the company just threw in. I have never heard or seen material called warp. But Fiberglass, Carbon Fiber - Fibre Glast Developments Corp. is a great site and I have ordered from them before. That other site looks kinda iffy.
DK

**ryanredbaron** · 03-23-2009 08:36 PM

others have ordered from the one i linked, but ill go with your company. Warp just refers to it being a knit instead of being just loose fibers i believe

**phil6x** · 03-23-2009 10:15 PM

post some pics once you get that board done!

**ryanredbaron** · 03-24-2009 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by phil6x

post some pics once you get that board done!

might be awhile, im making my frame press this weekend and that is gonna take some dickin around and stuff like that. But ill made a new thread as soon as i get some results....

im so happy that i no longer have to shove all my work into my vac bag and mess up all my layers!!!

one more thing, can someone suggest a good fiber glass to use? Just link a product please!!

**ggadow7294** · 03-25-2009 08:08 PM

got my glass and resin but... i got a problem i have a brand new graphic that i really dont want to sand off, any compromises? could i put two sheets on top of the board instead of one on top one on bottom?

**zgadow20** · 03-25-2009 08:11 PM

Hi Brother. Im Down The Hall

**ryanredbaron** · 03-25-2009 11:29 PM

Originally Posted by ggadow7294

got my glass and resin but... i got a problem i have a brand new graphic that i really dont want to sand off, any compromises? could i put two sheets on top of the board instead of one on top one on bottom?

think about how fiberglass works, or for that case take a piece of paper to represent it. Take the paper and fold it up on each side, it will fold in the middle and have no structural strength, now take that same piece of paper and situate so that it could simulate fiberglass on the bottom of the board, hold it by each of the ends and push on the middle.... it has alot more strength to it....

my example is kinda wack but i hope you understand!! FIberglass works best under tension! I would work on top, just not as well...

that is what i think/know so far, haven't been working with fiber too long!!

**ggadow7294** · 03-26-2009 01:05 PM

Originally Posted by ryanredbaron

think about how fiberglass works, or for that case take a piece of paper to represent it. Take the paper and fold it up on each side, it will fold in the middle and have no structural strength, now take that same piece of paper and situate so that it could simulate fiberglass on the bottom of the board, hold it by each of the ends and push on the middle.... it has alot more strength to it....

my example is kinda wack but i hope you understand!! FIberglass works best under tension! I would work on top, just not as well...

that is what i think/know so far, haven't been working with fiber too long!!

so basically i have to sand off my brand new graphic or will it stick to spray paint?

**teetop15** · 03-26-2009 11:55 PM

ok so my board is going to have flex in it
how do i fiberglass it?

**teetop15** · 03-27-2009 07:37 PM

how do i glue fiberglass inbetween the board?
do i just apply the resin on both sides and make the glass is wet?

**dustm** · 03-27-2009 07:55 PM

Your questions are too general for many people to want to answer them... Really it indicates that you just need to read around more. Do searches here and on the net, the info is out there and you have to piece together what you are going to do. Its an involved process and nobody is going to be able to give you every piece of info you need. Read around more and plan a simple deck and layup. Try it out and learn from your mistakes. You have to start somewhere, and there is a ton of info out there already that will answer all your questions and more.

Most importantly, share what you build here!

**Rich Nelson** · 04-05-2009 01:46 PM

BEWARE
do not layup fiberglass over rust-oleum specialty florecent spray paint. Ive done composites over spray paint countless times without any problems but this paint was different and had a chalky quality to it but I didn't think to much about it made sure it dried for a day etc but it ended up causing a pretty bad delaming problem. luckily it seems like the fiberglass will be able to be removed cleanly and I will be able just use a different type of paint and redo the composites.

**XCrunner** · 04-05-2009 05:00 PM

Quick question, I have some boards that I previously stained and varnished...can I sand off the varnish and apply a fiber-glass matt to the bottom? I was going to sand it off and wipe it down with DNA...