to paul bonchi,
There are certain characteristics of your boards, which I am assuming are v-lams, that are desirable; being that they are aesthetically pleasing and have the appeal of being totally handcrafted from an exotic wood... and that's great. But carbon fiber/fibreglass board have something to deliver that your board, without a doubt, cannot duplicate. Among those things are that the board itself absorbs everything in the road (you compensate for this with your risers and leather, which is cool) and has certain flex patterns that a vlam cannot provide. So simply put, both types of boards, I think are the best within there own category. Your board brings something amazing to the table that the boards that pavedwave described cannot and visa versa. However, if you come onto silverfish and promote your own boards, then proceed to insult other peoples hard work and inovation people are gonna start thinking "bonchi = dick." I'm hoping that what you did in this thread was a one-time thing and that you won't continue to do it, I think everyone here would be willing to look past it, and it would help if you provided an apology.
i am passion it, life is to short not to be. What is this #### of a hippie ... having too much .. , don't insult me, i have only questioned current board building materials, not called your momma names. I am 28 years old, haved worked with my hands in all facets of construction, read more classical literature than most english majors, i may communicate a bit differerent, but don't be hate'n. I have not onece said that any of my boards are for sale, i did offer materials though. Why don't we have someone from the fish receive a board and give a review. Pictures mean nothing, only riding.
uhuh.... Like what u said "i am passion it"... Buahahahhaha!!! ur first phrase tells it all. It shows us how intelligent you are. You say ur 28 and real classical literature!? Are u ####### kidding me!? Your some retard who makes boards then distributes to the local Wallmart or Big 5 sporting goods. Go set your hippy self on fire.
I was on lunch break, twenty minutes to eat and email, please beg my pardon. God forbid you mess up with a keyboard, or being anxious to write. There are some quick fire judgers out there, not cool. i have lost energy on this page, you can find me on mfg. and vendors for questions about skateboards etc. I am looking forward to further conacts with you.
Thanks
paul bonchi
p.s. i don't evert remember spelling how do say Phoenetically passionate that way before, weird how the brain works.
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Woah nelly. Don't get too fired up. It was not meant as an insult, only an observation. "Green" products typically bring up images of hippies and communal life. Living off the land and mushrooms in particular. I don't remember "calling your momma names". And like I said, you don't look old enough to be a hippie anyway. Again, glad to have another garage builder out there. All it does is further the pursuit. Your chosen dialect of the English language is different than most of us are used to. We speak traditional English on this forum. Unless you hit one of the regional sections of the forum where they speak their home language.
Again, glad you are stoked on building your own decks. It seems like you may have just gotten off on the wrong foot here due to the dialect or colloquial differences.
Hey, I do have a question or three for you though:
Q: Do the belly's of your boards scrub much, or is it at full flex when you stand on it?
Q: Why the big risers? Just for looks or functional rigidity?
Q: You mentioned using "Appalachian White Ash" from a nearby forest, where do you live that you would have access to raw materials like that? Must be nice.
Constructive Comment: Leather vibration dampers, good idea.
Constructive Comment: I would be happy to ride one of your boards if I was local to you. You should find a local Fish meet and bring some of your decks for folks to try out. I am sure you would make some new friends. Just make sure its a meet where people aren't going to be trying to DH them.
Good wood working, glad you are having fun.
C
If you watn
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to paul bonchi,
There are certain characteristics of your boards, which I am assuming are v-lams, that are desirable; being that they are aesthetically pleasing and have the appeal of being totally handcrafted from an exotic wood... and that's great. But carbon fiber/fibreglass board have something to deliver that your board, without a doubt, cannot duplicate. Among those things are that the board itself absorbs everything in the road (you compensate for this with your risers and leather, which is cool) and has certain flex patterns that a vlam cannot provide. So simply put, both types of boards, I think are the best within there own category. Your board brings something amazing to the table that the boards that pavedwave described cannot and visa versa. However, if you come onto silverfish and promote your own boards, then proceed to insult other peoples hard work and inovation people are gonna start thinking "bonchi = dick." I'm hoping that what you did in this thread was a one-time thing and that you won't continue to do it, I think everyone here would be willing to look past it, and it would help if you provided an apology.
Dear john,
i'm making this quick pardon me
not v-lam solid white ash
synthetics do offer things that my can't, and white ash can't be duplicated by synthetics.
the risers abosrb nothing, they give lateral support to the Ash, leather does take away some vibrations metal on wood no good. I don't recall insulting people. if i say that i don't like the feel of a loaded dervish, that is my opinion, why should you or anyone else get mad and throw insults and labels as quick as possible(other than that is fun for a lot of people). Go over my letters and show me where you think i crossed the line, took too much liberties and insulted people.
Your pal Pual
fiberglass, glue, epoxy, carbon fiber, dupont specials, all chemicals and garbage fibers, i have rode the loaded boards, felt like a switch, soft soft soft then pop right up, Not linear in rebound. Compared to? i ride better.
so how can you "ride better", drop me a line, telling me length and width, wheelbase, you are looking for and your weight. I will take care of the rest!
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where is this "ultimate" pumping... It seems that every time i see handcrafted, the most beautiful, the best riding, etc. just a let down, nice decks yeah, maybe real nice, but the best or ULTIMATE, nephew please.
Banachi
boards made from god
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And what in the sam hel is cf glass sandiches, some cancer causing charlie bobo bullcrap.
and using the word "might". bmfg boards bury composites in landfills
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Originally Posted by paul bonchi
you show me one board in the world with the characteristics of a bonchi and i'll send you dollar(vert lam is not even in my galaxy).
Here are just a few examples of where you went wrong. it's slightly inappropriate to come onto a forum like this and brag and boast. Especially in the board builders forum in a thread where someone is looking for advise on how to Build their own board. They're not looking for a sales pitch.
If you were to have said "hey you know what, if you want a good pumper I have an idea that might work for you" instead of "hey do I have a deal for you, my boards are the best and here's how to get one" then you wouldn't be getting all this heat.
If you have info on how to Build boards you'd like to share in the builders forum by all means share.
Here are just a few examples of where you went wrong. it's slightly inappropriate to come onto a forum like this and brag and boast. Especially in the board builders forum in a thread where someone is looking for advise on how to Build their own board. They're not looking for a sales pitch.
If you were to have said "hey you know what, if you want a good pumper I have an idea that might work for you" instead of "hey do I have a deal for you, my boards are the best and here's how to get one" then you wouldn't be getting all this heat.
If you have info on how to Build boards you'd like to share in the builders forum by all means share.
it is cool to speak with arcane, odd circumstances. i do dig your boards. I have been a nightly viewer of the board building, your boards are very tight. Even you misspel
I am going to give you a break down of what i felt. I am the one who composed them so who better to interept, this is by no means me refuting what i said. There are no takebacks. This is no sales pitch this is my research, my calling in longboards. I never once said that i was going to specifically sell you a skateboard. I specifically told you that bonchi boards are in class by themselves, why, not me i am a plumber and skateboard maker on the side. They rock because of the white ash. I just got done riding a four footer pintail, 5/16 inch thick, there is no bottoming out, it is alive, boucing you out carves like only 1 trillion wood fibers all working in unison can do. So if you want a bonchi canvas, i'll hook you up tight, how's free sound brother.
who's bad?
paul bonchi
bmfg
Ignorance is bliss. The trickle down effect of the toxic chemicals in your board is not what i want apart of.
yeah well my conscience can deal with a little carbon fiber, given how I "go green" in many other areas in my life.
if you ever send your boards to people, be sure to only use horse n' buggy to do so. oh wait, that contributes dangerous levels of methane to the atmosphere, kinda like this thread.
hey, are you using a computer monitor to view this? tsk tsk...
This thread is now officially, totally jacked. I'm sure Shiyuchi reeeeeeaally appreciates all the time and energy spent huffin' and puffin' here, but wasn't the point of this thread to discuss ideal pumping characteristics in handbuilt longboards?
Bonchi: There's a reason why airline pilots from every country speak English; so they can all understand each other no matter where they're from. I haven't been on the 'fish long, true. But seems to me that clearly written and easily understood posts win out every time over poorly written posts or posts that use too much slang. I ain't knocking the way you talk (I'm from Texas, for God's sake) but it really does help to sit down and think about what you're saying. At the very least, your boasting will sound slightly more credible.
You say you respect arcane and the other heavy hitters in this forum? Bull. How do you think they got to where they are? They built their reputations for producing extremely high-quality boards BY producing high-quality boards, using all kinds of processes and materials. Where's the talk about your stuff? I ain't heard anything about 'bmfg boards' yet, except from you.
People don't know you on here, Paul. You could be the most gifted board-crafter in the country, but all we have to go on is how you present yourself in this forum. If you've got a quality product, great, but the more you alienate us (your potential customers), the less likely it is that we'll get the chance to enjoy the work you put into your boards. Right now you have nothing substantial to back up your hype, and most people will either flame you or ignore you, rather than think about checking out handbuilt solid white ash decks with leather risers.
Quit killing the stoke, man.
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Re: characteristics of a perfect pumping board?
ur first phrase tells it all. It shows us how intelligent you are. You say ur 28 and real classical literature!? Are u ####### kidding me!? Your some retard who makes boards then distributes to the local Wallmart or Big 5 sporting goods. Go set your hippy self on fire.
