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Old 05-17-2008, 01:51 PM   #1 (permalink)
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I want to build a pumper. A real good one. So what are the characteristics of an ideal one, like length, wheel base, flex, width. All that.
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Old 05-17-2008, 04:03 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I want to build a pumper. A real good one. So what are the characteristics of an ideal one, like length, wheel base, flex, width. All that.
my name is paul bonchi, i design and build longboards. bmfg is me.
a rundown of materials being used by the majority, and my understanding.

plywood-roughly half of the wood is horizontal, the other half is vertical, 50% is supplying your flex, the other half is your lateral support. it will pump, but a good one??? i ride better.

fiberglass, glue, epoxy, carbon fiber, dupont specials, all chemicals and garbage fibers, i have rode the loaded boards, felt like a switch, soft soft soft then pop right up, Not linear in rebound. Compared to? i ride better.

a pumper takes a lot of abuse , a tremendous amount of energy is soaked up then released, all day long if its a good day. i have read threads of the loaded boards cracking near the trucks(dervish). Fiberglass is for insulation and old race cars.

so how can you "ride better", drop me a line, telling me length and width, wheelbase, you are looking for and your weight. I will take care of the rest!
Bonchi Mfg. is a nitch longboard company, the materials used are raw, this is the "organic board". I have been designing longboards with my unique vision for nearly five years. thank you for you time, and tomorrow i'll post a picture of what a bonchi board is.
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my name is paul bonchi, i design and build longboards. bmfg is me.
a rundown of materials being used by the majority, and my understanding.

plywood-roughly half of the wood is horizontal, the other half is vertical, 50% is supplying your flex, the other half is your lateral support. it will pump, but a good one??? i ride better.

fiberglass, glue, epoxy, carbon fiber, dupont specials, all chemicals and garbage fibers, i have rode the loaded boards, felt like a switch, soft soft soft then pop right up, Not linear in rebound. Compared to? i ride better.

a pumper takes a lot of abuse , a tremendous amount of energy is soaked up then released, all day long if its a good day. i have read threads of the loaded boards cracking near the trucks(dervish). Fiberglass is for insulation and old race cars.

so how can you "ride better", drop me a line, telling me length and width, wheelbase, you are looking for and your weight. I will take care of the rest!
Bonchi Mfg. is a nitch longboard company, the materials used are raw, this is the "organic board". I have been designing longboards with my unique vision for nearly five years. thank you for you time, and tomorrow i'll post a picture of what a bonchi board is.
I'm just learning how to pump, and I think I found the trick/sweet spot for my trucks. First off, I'm using softer bushings on my conventionals now, and have max flexage on my Classic 29 (spreading the wheelbase) and the turning feels nice and springy. Even pulls off some crazy sharp turns that I now have to get used to. I even almost turned so hard that I nearly flew off. Correct me if I'm wrong, but what I have been doing is to obviously start going at some speed, then start throwing myself into some nice hard turns, swerving side to side. Well, that's how it appears to me. Does the flex help bounce you back the opposite direction or something?
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my name is paul bonchi, i design and build longboards. bmfg is me.
a rundown of materials being used by the majority, and my understanding.

plywood-roughly half of the wood is horizontal, the other half is vertical, 50% is supplying your flex, the other half is your lateral support. it will pump, but a good one??? i ride better.

fiberglass, glue, epoxy, carbon fiber, dupont specials, all chemicals and garbage fibers, i have rode the loaded boards, felt like a switch, soft soft soft then pop right up, Not linear in rebound. Compared to? i ride better.

a pumper takes a lot of abuse , a tremendous amount of energy is soaked up then released, all day long if its a good day. i have read threads of the loaded boards cracking near the trucks(dervish). Fiberglass is for insulation and old race cars.

so how can you "ride better", drop me a line, telling me length and width, wheelbase, you are looking for and your weight. I will take care of the rest!
Bonchi Mfg. is a nitch longboard company, the materials used are raw, this is the "organic board". I have been designing longboards with my unique vision for nearly five years. thank you for you time, and tomorrow i'll post a picture of what a bonchi board is.

That made hardly any sense... Nor was it appropriate to advertise your board to someone who was asking for advice on how to build their own. That's considered thread-jacking.
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a pumper takes a lot of abuse , a tremendous amount of energy is soaked up then released, all day long if its a good day. i have read threads of the loaded boards cracking near the trucks(dervish). Fiberglass is for insulation and old race cars. .
the issue on some of the Dervishes is not so much the fiberglass, as: 1. bamboo has the tendency to crack when torqued, and 2. its happening right behind the cutout for the drop through - if it were topmount the bamboo would last longer.

I've found that birch, fiberglass and carbon fiber lasts for years of insane abuse but maintains its snap. it'll be cool to see what you're finding with the organic stuff. hemp?
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Galac Longboards (Samhell here on the fish) has some absolutely unbelievable and amazing pumping and LDP'ing decks he is working on. Maybe he will post some pictures of the "ultimate" pumping deck to give you some ideas...
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i apologize for mentioning a made up company on the board building site. if you take rollerskates and cut......
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i apologize for mentioning a made up company on the board building site. if you take rollerskates and cut......
So, I should go to bed and not wait for the picture?
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So, I should go to bed and not wait for the picture?
Good form or not, I'd like to see a picture too, now. IMO...post a picture and describe why it fulfills the characteristics of the perfect pumper.
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To the OP, did you check out Pavedwave's site? He has more info than anyone can else can come up with on this subject.
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Old 05-18-2008, 09:58 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I am posting my pictures on the Manufacturers Forum. I didn't feel it was appropriate to post the photos on this thread


I'm looking forward to showing you all my unique boards.
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