G&S Fibreflex 44"pintail set up

[Red1968]

Question, how would you set up this board?

A) RII 180's with 83mm flywheels

I have these now but as i'm giving my current deck to a friend who wrecked his, maybe time for a change in set up so he can keep the board complete.

or

B) Holeys with 85mm speedvents (or 83mm flywheels)

I'm a big guy, 230lbs and generally use the board for serious carving an lite DH.
The G&S is coming in this week so, please, help me out here.

Also, what durometer wheels would you advise, the fly's are 81a

Thanks in advance for any thoughts you might have on the matter.

[Red1968]

I'm thirty nine years old and have been skateboarding since i was eight, just recently taken up lonngarding.
Looking for a summer training board to help my snowboard racing, SL & GS, please help me out here?!

Or don't newbies get to benefit from the knowledge available on the "fish"?!

[Fathom1269]

Wow 230 on a fiberflex do you mount it on the inner holes?
oh and an opinion on your new set up (sounds like your wiling to fork over some cash)
grizzly's and lemon bigzigs
that would be hot!

[hankmarx]

I have a 38'' G&S pintail set up with Randall 150's {all blue stim bushings, flat washers}
Pink Poweball wheels[72 size by 78 duro} and Powell swiss bearings. I like a soft 1/8'
riser and use panhead hardware. The kingpins in the trucks have been replaced and
flipped. The rear hanger has also been flipped. I am using the outside to outside bolt
holes in the board.
I am about your size at 6 2'' and 215. I like the board alot and I am still messing with
the setup. I have a loaded pintail with a similar setup and gumballs and I have to say I
like it better. Maybe I will try gumballs on the G&S next.

I hope that helped.

[Red1968]

Thank you!

I read that the late models of the G&S are very stiff and doable for the heavier rider....
Deck should come in today or tomorrow at Sickboards.com, waiting for a call to go pick it up.. Ride RII's now but have doubts about the axles...

Looking at the Holeys and the Force C7's....
I like the look of the speedvents and think he 75a ones would look really good on a more classic deck like the G&S. Not sure if thats the best option though, the 80a ones probably drift a bit better....I love my 83mm flywheels but my friend would want to take them of my hands for a fair price so I have the option to switch!

Once again thanks for your posts!

PS. I would need specific bearings for the grizzly's 10 mm axles?

[pirateswin]

Holeys. And you really don't need to go over 76mm for that setup. Speedvents or gummies would be good if you're still looking for wheels on the larger end. I ran holeys and flashbacks on mine.

And yes, the latest Fibreflexes are stiff. You will have no problems, even on the widest wheelbase.

However, if you're really looking for a high speed carver and DHer, there are some better options. The rayne avenger for example. I don't think the fibreflex even has concave (not any that I can remember, anyways).

[gavmck]

I guess it depends on how you want it to turn. Seems like you're running similar wheels either way so...

I have a set of R2 180s and a set of holeys. I find the R2s have a 'top turn' and a 'deep turn' to them, you can play around doing minor turns without much effort then you hit a kinda wall of resistance. However if you push hard into the turn with your weight they break loose into the 'deep turn'. Holeys on the other hand I would say are more linear all the way to the bottom of the turn. Personally I prefer the randals on my DH/carving board, but that's probably cos I've been riding them for several years and the holeys only for a week or so.

Oh and don't take offence at people not replying, they do it to me all the time. I think it just depends on if a post catches someones attention and they feel they have something to add. A lot of the time you just get stock replies on what people like themselves, but it may not be right for you. If you can, try and get a demo on both the types of trucks cos it's the only way to know. But then again, some things take a bit of getting used to and you may actually prefer the annoying one in the end! I say get both! Muahahahahaha

[xxguitarist]

Holeys and sector9 GOS wheels.
i set a friend up with that (on the 38''), and rode it a good bit.
it's got great stability that holeys provide, but also their deep turning.
i agree that over 76mm isnt necessary.
The GOS balance out the width of the trucks well, with the board, since holeys are a little on the wide side.

[EBasil]

I'm just a tad heavier than you are and my 44Pin is a staple board in my quiver. Personally, I think you might find the 180's to be a little wide, but they are fun to ride that way. The width issue will mean you're more likely to kick the rear wheel when pushing, and can make wheelbite issues worse with some wheels. That said, one of the best setups I've ridden on that pin was Holey trucks with Powerballs. The board was just dialed-in.

I usually run 150's or similarly wide trucks, and think Flashbacks are well suited for the board. Since it's a little narrow and has no concave, I don't really think of it as a DH board in any sense, but it's a great carving and funhog board.

[Red1968]

I'm thinking about the force trucks because of the "bent axle syndrome" the Randalls have!
Read in the reviews that the Holeys are less suited for high speeds.......
Also I can flip the hangers on the Force trucks, yes?

I Love my 83mm fly's but thought that with the off center cores the speedvents have I could get rid of the flux risers I have on my current replica of the G&S that a good friend built for me!
The home built replica is about an inch wider than the real thing....

remains the question; "what durometer" would you advise.....

For a DH deck, I'm saving up for a Wefunk in Black with Magun trucks and 83mm Fly's
(or should tat be the 90mm's?)

Thanks for the input, this is a great help you guys!

PS, the Maguns are in the picture because Alex say's he cant get the Jimz's at the moment.......bummer. (?) (!)

[Warren]

I have one - with 150 Randals and Retro zig zags.
I would stick to somthing 70mm 'ish - it's not going to be the greatest DH board for you - it's still pretty flexy - and I'm now just under 200 lbs.

Good carver / cruiser though.




(sorry just looked at it and it has 150's on it. (informaniac made me look)

[infomaniac]

Mine has Randal 150's and Grippens (for now). I think that you may want to be careful going too wide with the trucks, it's pretty easy to snag a foot on that rear truck when you push.

As for "lite downhill" get another deck. This one wants to turn. Set this one up with some soft bushings in a turny truck and find a long mellow hill for some excellent "Soul Carving."

Enjoy
dP

[fishermantpr]

I ride my 38 with 150s and grippins, love i. I am thinking about giving the paris trucks a shot.

[Red1968]

Am I right in assuming that those of you that have mounted the 150 trucks all use wheels with off center cores?

[Warren]

^^^^^^ Yes!

[Red1968]

Hmmmm, can't pick up the deck until Friday.....

Narrowed it down to two possible setup's, your thoughts please!?

1) Force C7 trucks with 85mm speedvents (white 79A)

2) RII 150 trucks with 75 mm avila's (white 77A)

I agree that setup 1 is going to be a little wider but only 3cm more compared to my current board ( RII 180's with 83 mm fly's) setup two will look about the same as my current setup but the wheel cores will be about 3cm closer together.....making it less agile? If that is so I will go for the force trucks, avila's would make the total width 3cm wider still, hence the speedvents. I can get through a slalom spaced at two meters on my current set up and would not like to end up with a board less agile...

[Stop The Insanity]

I'm thinking about the force trucks because of the "bent axle syndrome" the Randalls have!

There isn't any "bent axle syndrome" with Randalls. Don't believe everything you read on Silverfish.

Do some Randalls have bent axels? Yeah. So does every other mass production brand.

[valskater]

Setup #1
Congrats

[Red1968]

Looks like I'm going for the Force 178 C7 and trimmed Avila's 75mm ( 8 mm trim).
Avila's in old version model, blue and gray.....(gray front and blue rear)

Thanks for all the help!

PS. The reason I chose for the Avila's is that they are not completely side set, should be about half to three quarter inch of "play"!

[Steve D.]

I run my Fibreflex 44" pintail with Randal 150's, holey bushings, and lime 70mm zigzags (80a)

I've tried many different set-ups over this boards 2 years of life, and I recommend mounting the front truck at the outside holes, and the back truck at the inside holes.

My randals have withstood years of hard carving and have not bent, you only need to worry about bending hangers while speedboarding.

The 150mm hanger on the Randals is perfect for the narrow pintail and gives you the leverage you need to pump and carve.

I weigh 204 by the way and it is very flexy.