How loose are your trucks?

**Mooch** · 09-30-2007 03:25 PM

I have always have had my tucks on the tighter side and I was thinking about loosing them up a bit on my vanguard. Do you guys have pretty loose trucks and is it nicer for carving and turning?
Oh and how is it for when your going faster speeds does it make it less stable

Thankss

**Foxen** · 09-30-2007 03:26 PM

Floppy on my Vanguard

**El Gato** · 09-30-2007 04:15 PM

Just went loose and sloppy on mine today.

**maxhim** · 09-30-2007 04:45 PM

Loose them a bit, or maybe loose them so much and change the bushing(like white Jimz or tracker Stims)

This board is fun to carve with pretty loose trucks

**Gooseman** · 09-30-2007 05:19 PM

It's as loose as a cheap hooker.

Which is pretty loose like the nuts going to fall off.

**nicehat** · 09-30-2007 06:24 PM

Is riding with so much center slop just something I have to get used to? I learned the pure carving joys of loose trucks, but I feel like I waste a lot of energy kicking because I'm trying to not veer off course as I shift my weight because there's so little strength in the center. Also my washers rattle like the trucks going to fall apart when I ride them crazy loose.

**nicehat** · 09-30-2007 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by Gooseman

It's as loose as a cheap hooker.

Which is pretty loose like the nuts going to fall off.

BTW, if the hooker is too cheap the nuts may fall off but it usually isnt' right away...

**Slim** · 09-30-2007 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by nicehat

Is riding with so much center slop just something I have to get used to? I learned the pure carving joys of loose trucks, but I feel like I waste a lot of energy kicking because I'm trying to not veer off course as I shift my weight because there's so little strength in the center. Also my washers rattle like the trucks going to fall apart when I ride them crazy loose.

It's not really safe to loosen the kingpin nut so much that the trucks flop around and the washers rattle. It also doesn't make for a very good ride. You need to have the nut snug enough so that the pivot of the truck is held solidly in the baseplate and that the washers are held firmly against the bushings and the bushings are slightly compressed. When you push down on the wheel with your hand, and then let up, the truck should spring back to the center.

What do you do if the trucks don't turn easily enough if you have the nut snug in the manner I described above? You get softer bushings! That's how trucks are designed to be adjusted. There is a little adjustment available with the kingpin nut, but it can't be so loose that the truck flops around nor so tight that the bushings are compressed into a totally different shape than they are supposed to look like. (if that's happening, you need harder bushings). Fortunately, bushings come in dozens of different hardnesses from like 65a to the high 90s so there is something for every weight rider and the full range of loose to tight truck preferences.

**xan** · 09-30-2007 07:02 PM

lose as helll

AJ · 09-30-2007 07:11 PM

My trucks are looser than Goatse.

**chickinana** · 09-30-2007 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by Mooch

I have always have had my tucks on the tighter side and I was thinking about loosing them up a bit on my vanguard. Do you guys have pretty loose trucks and is it nicer for carving and turning?
Oh and how is it for when your going faster speeds does it make it less stable

Thankss

i dont know how mine are...but i like it the way it is...so i dont want to touch it!

**Ian** · 09-30-2007 07:51 PM

Loose trucks save lives. I got my trucks on my dervish loose when it came and I haven't changed it since.

**Mooch** · 09-30-2007 08:46 PM

ok sweet thanks for the feedback
time to loosen them up

**VulgarDisplayCFH** · 09-30-2007 08:48 PM

Originally Posted by A.J.

My trucks are looser than Goatse.

BAD BAD BAD!!!!

Mine are just as loose.

**timmysweatpants** · 09-30-2007 09:02 PM

Trucks? What's that, like a Ford?

**andrew_cruise** · 09-30-2007 09:08 PM

loose trucks are great but it is just stupid when it isint using the bushing and the bushings hangs off the kingpin.

i ride mine super loose but just tightened enough that when i turn the truck with my hand its the bushing that is being used not the slop.
for dh i turn the front a half turn and the back a full turn(white, black jimz combo)

**Lee W** · 09-30-2007 11:31 PM

Vanguard is meant to be ridden very very loose. Get it as loose as possible but make sure the white nyloc thing on the nut is still gripping the kingpin, and hopefully the washers won't rattle. You want to make sure the washers are still snug against the bushing or else it'll just be all sloppy (then buy softer bushings).

It'll be hard to get used to at first, but you will be fine. Pushing will become easy to stay straight. And as long as you stay calm, any hill you are already doing will be just as doable...but more fun!

**Foxen** · 09-30-2007 11:52 PM

I need to get softer bushings but it's frustrating since I just bought full sets of blue and red khiros and they werent soft enough. Looks like I need some whites. and i'm 185lbs!

**ZampraZ** · 10-01-2007 12:04 AM

U turn at 1 - 1.5 p-spaces

**David H** · 10-01-2007 12:13 AM

on my mini - can u-turn 3/4 a parking space - pretty damn loose, but im riding bennetts, so i could probably go looser
cruiser/carver - just about in the middle. i can ped slalom, but still hit 30 w/o much carving, and no wobbles
schlong - a little looser, but probably more stable (drop deck?)
pool board - kinda loose. actually, i should probably loosen it...
speed board - tight as hell. stability in wherever it presents itsself, right? wouldnt make sense to have a 46" dropthrough, dropdeck and ride it sloppy loose, would it?