I still think the stuff they are doing is cool, but I will stick to longboarding.
but who am I to say their sport is a "kook" sport. Why dont you just let them do their stuff, and eventually the sport will either die of due to all of the riders suffering from severe brain damage, or grow and have a bunch of little kids suffer from severe brain damage.
just because this video shows what you can do with the thing, doesent mean Im going to go get one. Im sure it took a long time and a lot of really hard falls to learn the stuff they are doing.
I give them props. and it doesent matter that people can already do it without straps. thats like saying people can get from point A to point B without a car. . . . .yeah no sh!t. There is alwayse going to be someone who chooses to express the same thing as other people, only in a differently. like speaking in another language, you say the same thing, only differently.
am I making sense? It make sense to me. anywase, this is just my opinion on the subject.
There are things and there will be others that they can do and no-one with a skateboard without a retention system will ever be able to do. Of course while fun to watch a completed vid I wouldn't want to try it....for example a full layout backflip...looks cool, but hurts when you land wrong.
yeah. even though they are different, they look fun. why not just let them have fun. different stokes for different folks. i would like to try one just for the hell of it. i would wear my lid though
Waking up to 100 emails with subjects like “climb the highest mountain... and punch god in the sack”, "staring down at the regular jackoffs, from space" & “when it's hard it don't bend and when it's soft it don't reach” is really strange for a partial amnesiac. Just say'n....
half the problem is brought on by the "innovators/marketeers" themselves. trying to appeal to the hardcore / gnar element, taking a board which was designed mainly for cruising then trying to one-up street tricks by doing insane triple flips, jumps and grinds.
IMO what they should do is just not try to emulate all the same street tricks done on traditional skateboards, and instead focus on what they think their board does better.
i don't get that argument,
snakeboards started out as a low speed wiggle novelty toy (just like ripstiks, freelines, xliders, pumprockr, carver trucks, etc)
it didn't seem to sell very well....
and they make for poor cruisers...
of all the strap-in boards, they seem to be the most capable at a skatepark... (but you pay the price when you fall...and other skaters will give u the stink eye...)
for a while now, they been trying to appeal to snowboarders who don't have the hang up about straps..
Thank you all for the reasonable reaction to my frustration with the trollers. I still think that if the Hybrids thread didn't show up on the recent posts list the causal hater would not bother to look for a hybrid topic to troll. Oh well, so long as the more mature members continues to contribute the hit-and-run kids don't matter.
Originally Posted by sk8norcal
i don't get that argument,
snakeboards started out as a low speed wiggle novelty toy (just like ripstiks, freelines, xliders, pumprockr, carver trucks, etc)
snakeboards started out as a low speed wiggle novelty toy (just like ripstiks, freelines, xliders, pumprockr, carver trucks, etc)
it didn't seem to sell very well....
and they make for poor cruisers...
funny to lump carver trucks in with the rest of that group. four wheels down AND a return/rebound mechanism in the truck makes for a far more stable and responsive skateboard than that other gimmicky stuff. of the two, the over-engineered carver C7 has a much lower "high end" speed (around 20mph, depending on your life insurance) but the CX can be taken up to 30-40mph with ease. the downside of the C7 is that it has around 27 parts, whereas the CX uses basically the same number of parts as a traditional truck, with just a different architecure. both of these trucks were designed with true surfing emulation in mind, not marketed as a quick gimmicky skateboarding alternative. most of the other stuff in that list is far removed from what I'd consider a "skateboard"
btw, i didn't think streetboard should have focused on cruising, i know they suck at that (another zero-rebound toy) I was suggesting that if they wanted just to show tricks they should have shown stuff that you can't really do well on a shortboard either, and just show more jumping over obstacles on the street, more practical use of the jump rather than upside down flips. one of the "tricks" they could do with this board is to get moving fast and pump for a long time sideways along on the vert, I've seen guys do this briefly and it looks insanely cool, and something you can't really do with a park board.
so (from gomer's shots) it looks like "streetboard" is basically snakeboard with more platform, same architecture just more fat in the middle?
i think this drunken death wish video would be their best new marketing tactic
funny to lump carver trucks in with the rest of that group. four wheels down AND a return/rebound mechanism in the truck makes for a far more stable and responsive skateboard than that other gimmicky stuff. of the two, the over-engineered carver C7 has a much lower "high end" speed (around 20mph, depending on your life insurance) but the CX can be taken up to 30-40mph with ease. the downside of the C7 is that it has around 27 parts, whereas the CX uses basically the same number of parts as a traditional truck, with just a different architecure. both of these trucks were designed with true surfing emulation in mind, not marketed as a quick gimmicky skateboarding alternative. most of the other stuff in that list is far removed from what I'd consider a "skateboard"
btw, i didn't think streetboard should have focused on cruising, i know they suck at that (another zero-rebound toy) I was suggesting that if they wanted just to show tricks they should have shown stuff that you can't really do well on a shortboard either, and just show more jumping over obstacles on the street, more practical use of the jump rather than upside down flips. one of the "tricks" they could do with this board is to get moving fast and pump for a long time sideways along on the vert, I've seen guys do this briefly and it looks insanely cool, and something you can't really do with a park board.
so (from gomer's shots) it looks like "streetboard" is basically snakeboard with more platform, same architecture just more fat in the middle?
i think this drunken death wish video would be their best new marketing tactic
not impressive, ....never be cool, .....no one will ever think it's cool
I guess we ride for different resaons. I don't see anyone "pushing" these types of other-than-typical-skateboard-riding anywhere on this web site.
This is an other-than-typical-skateboard-riding subforum that you had to intentionaly seek out. Nobody is going to your 15 other subforums and suggesting that you discuss a type of skateboarding that you think it not now and will never be cool.
Stop reading and posting to this thread and you can continue your life without ever having to know that some people are riding boards that you think aren't cool. Deal?
Originally Posted by Longbord1
it's that other people can do these tricks, and BETTER, without straps.
Really? I've never seen a skateboarder who can a single back flip without grabing their deck. I've never seen a skateboarder do a double back flip.
funny to lump carver trucks in with the rest of that group.[/youtube]
low speed wigglers unite...
many skaters thought carver trucks were a gimmick when they first came out....
when I test rode the c7, it was impossible to even push the damn thing...
I bought the cx based on your reviews..
didn't like it...
didn't swivel enough at low speed,
didn't like going fast on it.. (might as well be back on a randal..)
many skaters thought carver trucks were a gimmick when they first came out....
when I test rode the c7, it was impossible to even push the damn thing...
I bought the cx based on your reviews..
didn't like it...
didn't swivel enough at low speed,
didn't like going fast on it.. (might as well be back on a randal..)
yeah i only like the C7 as a mild-slope carving thingamabob now, but in fact after taking it apart to replace the spring, I never got it back together again.
and you're right, the CX needs to be going about 10mph before it opens up, I was never into slow cruising, unless there's a sunset and beer involved. I like to cover miles a little faster-- that's why it's hard to find people to LDP with what eventually steered me away from the CX was the insane height you had to jack it up to avoid wheelbite.
I'm not hating at all. I'm happy there are people skating, regardless of straps.
But the general public will never really see it as cool.
I don't skate for cool so it doesn't bother me. Hopefully you will grow a tougher skin and not give a crap what anyone says. As for now, your wasting energy on the internet, trying to convince people.
Way to quote my post and only take the negative words from it.
It's sad that you haven't learned to accept, that people won't like what you do, and there is nothing you can do about it.
I haven't read all of the posts but does anyone else think doing a front flip while strapped in to anything without a helmet on is severely dangerous. I mean i know they think they're to hardcore for it but #### come on
But the general public will never really see it as cool..
does it matter?
personally, i like to see anyone huck themself into the air...
and slams too..
strap or no strap...
and btw, they CAN do stuff that skaters can't do...
(if you skate park or watch snowboarding, u would realize this)...
strapping definitely makes certain things easier, but the slam is way worse than skateboarding...
they are MANY skaters (especially ones with snowboarding background) that are incapable of flying around the skatepark like Tony Trujillo... and if they want to "cheat" and strap in, I don't see the big deal.. no love from most skaters, oh well...
btw, I am betting all the haters in this thread can't ollie up a curb...
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