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Old 07-02-2009, 11:18 PM   #61
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Ok, its not rocket science, but if you can visualise this..

The Axles are split in-line with the kingpin, so are in line with that, also they are in-line with the Pivot. No offsets in either direction. Thats an easy (ish) way to work out what clearances you'll get without actually seeing the hangers in the flesh.

So, they will ride lower than a Randal Hanger.

Using a longer kingpin (we advise a 2. 75" if you want to run barrels will drop the head of the kingpin by a further .1/8th" approx, taking a notional 45 angle, (I know most will run 42, but its close enough.) By having the nut under the hanger you can increase clearance because the kingping in effect rises as you tighten it.

The setups pictured show a rather loosely assembled truck. On Sunday I will photograph a 42 degree baseplate with bushings tight so you can see clearance, er, clearly!
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May I see them mounted on a board please?
Comet Voodoo XL GOG 200 hangers Randal 42 plates. 72mm CULTS
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Comet Voodoo XL GOG 200 hangers Randal 42 plates. 72mm CULTS
Are those Shockers? How's the ride?
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Are those Shockers? How's the ride?
Dont know yet, its pissing down
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Are those Shockers? How's the ride?
you need to get them.
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They're Cults on Franky's board. To hell with Venoms, CULT CULT CULT! They my favourite DH wheel of the moment. Both amazing grip and slide, totally kick the arse off zigzags
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Both amazing grip and slide, totally kick the arse off zigzags
same with the shockers. wonder how they'd stack up against each other.
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I was asking more about the hangers than the wheels...
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I was asking more about the hangers than the wheels...
Ive only had this setup to about 30mph on fairly straight bits off road. So i cant say what there all about yet. But like most things, if it looks right it prob is right.The shockers were only in because it was all i had to check set up, as to wheelbite. Its gotsome propoer ones in there now.. Ive got about 1/2 inch clearance betwix road and kingpin.
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I was asking more about the hangers than the wheels...
did you order them?
i ordered a set last week still waiting
i am thinking on putting them on adjustable baseplates
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same with the shockers. wonder how they'd stack up against each other.
WE should have a wheel stand off, New UK brand vs. new US brand muahahaha!
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did you order them?
i ordered a set last week still waiting
i am thinking on putting them on adjustable baseplates
Yep, i ordered them from Octane and got them the next day.
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did you order them?
i ordered a set last week still waiting
i am thinking on putting them on adjustable baseplates
Yep, ordered 'em Thursday from Octane, but I don't know when they'll get here. I haven't received a tracking number.
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Bear in mind Franky is in the UK, and you guys are Americas, so that's probably why it's taking longer...

How's the kingpin clearance? What do they feel like? Grippy? slidey? Got lots of lean?
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Finally got it set up. I've been waiting months for all the stuff to get here.

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The kingpin is definitely low, but I'm waiting for some Elims to change that a little bit.
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Finally got it set up. I've been waiting months for all the stuff to get here.

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The kingpin is definitely low, but I'm waiting for some Elims to change that a little bit.
Awesome setup. GoGs are incredible. I'm trying to get some when I hit the lottery for $215.
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Here they are! First out of three:

G.O.G. Big Brother for Randal, Force, Paris, Holey, Pogo (and Bear Grizzly) baseplates!

With or without spherical. Detailed specs below.

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Hanger width

- 200mm (180mm come fall)

Hanger type

- axle in-line with kingpin for maximum traction and controlled drifting, flippable
- anti torsional light weight construction

Flippable hanger

You’ll get 2 trucks in 1!

Low, standard
- stable
- easier to drift
- round turning
- 7mm lower
- You’ll need to lean more.

High, flipped
- more agile/ tippier
- grippier
- more slalom-like turning
- 7mm higher
- You’ll need to lean less.

Axles

8mm precision

Spherical Bearings

Pivot
Pivot cup, no spherical bearing

Hanger
bushing, spherical upgrade: €6/spherical

With spherical
- more precise
- quicker reaction
- holds the line well especially in sweepers
- more responsive
- harder to control in drifts and slides

Without spherical
- less precise
- softer ride, mushier
- harder to hold the line (you’ll have to lean more in order to hold the line)
- Smoother drifts and slides

Bushings

- standard barrel shape fits
- Eliminators, Stimulators and Jim-Z shape fit

Hanger only option

This hanger is designed to fit Randal baseplates. Will also fit Holey, Force, Paris and Pogo. For Bear Grizzly baseplates please contact me

Test Pilots

Sebastian Hertler
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Design

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Price per set

€150 / approx. $215 USD

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Have you ever ridden them? Just wondering.

Anyone know when the adjustable bp's coming out?
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Ohhhhhhhhh... Got it!

You can get it either with or without a spherical bearing in the hanger. Like this:
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When would you want a spherical versus a urethane bushing, and vice verse? How does the ride change from one to another?
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