Indy DH plate

[streetheap]

I think you're just better than me to be honest.

I'm with Pet.
Yeah man I'm just faster dewedged. It's the cornering on flat Indys that kills me.
Same with Randals. I tried 50's for the longest time and then finally switched to 42s when they came out a couple years back. I know some people can rail on a 50/50 setup or predrift on flat Indys like a champ, but not me. I'm in the weeds.
It's probably 1/2 50% mental technique.

[Xgecko]

I run loose hangers on eliminators to deal with slop. I ran the same board down the same hill 4-5 days on stock Indy's dropped through and then 3 days so far on 15º/5º and there is no question I can feel the difference. I am soo much faster through corners now especially with drifting, I never touch my bushings they are as loose for straight line speed as they are for corners which wasn't true on stock Indy plates.

[guivans]

Cindys ROCK!

[FaceVsAsphalt]

What kind of boards are you all riding that making sure your set-up is as low as possible?

I run mine on a flush pagan. Lowest board ive ever had. Lower than my dropspeed on flat indys. I wanted a really easy board to push after I broke my ankle so I was trying to make a nice low topmount. I had to go with bigger wheels to avoid railbite. I dont mind flat indys, but wanted to have the ability to change my KP easier and try out some new products and I happened to really like them.

[Xgecko]

this is low even on BZ's similar reasons to FVA wanted a low board after a broken ankle

[JamieReis]

this is low even on BZ's similar reasons to FVA wanted a low board after a broken ankle

Lol...twins:




I put airbolts hardware on there too, so it is even more similar. Mine is just a bunch more thrashed than yours now. What degree plates are you running? And why BigZigs on such a perfect sliding machine? You should name that thing the chatter factory.

[speshlspeclsteak]

theyre indy DH plates what do you think?

[Xgecko]

[JamieReis]

[Xgecko]

Yah mine is full sized. How do you like 15/5* at speed? I've never GPSd those angles over like 40mph.

at speeds around 40mph they are fine for my ankles. I haven't been above 50mph since I broke my ankle and in truth it doesn't have the appeal that it used to.

[Petary791]

Well my friends, I'm in the heart of the Bible Belt right now, Baxter, Tennessee to be exact, and I'm having the time of my life. My dad and I have been going around hill hunting and I've hit the most fun things I've ever DH'd on in my life. My dad and grandpa have been chase car'ing and taking video, which I will upload whenever I get internet better than DSL from my uncle next door. So far the top speeds have been 55 mph straights with 45 mph sweepers. I'm stoked as a joke.

[guivans]

NIiiiiiiiiiiceeeeee....
Wich combo are you using now?

[Petary791]

[B Dollar Bill Symbol]

I've been reading this thread for a bit off and on now, and I thought I'd jump into the game when some cindy right angle kingpin were posted in the classifieds. After reading Jar's write about how great the plates were on a toecutter I thought they would go well on my toecutter (except I didn't listen to his degree recommendation) So I bought a pair and they arrive in great condition and I put them on my toecutter with my hybrid indy bushing set up (sabre cone and lime reflex short cone) and I get hanger bite... so I figure the bushings are too soft, so I put on harder bushings (purple sabre and sabre cone) still get hanger bite. Then I put on the hardest combo I have (red reflex and purple sabre) and I still get hanger bite... Then I try my blue eliminators with the reflex barrel this was the best feeling combo, but I still get hanger bite. Then I topmounted the plates. This was better, and a nice ride, but I didn't like the feeling of the toecutter topmounted so I put it back. I compared them to my indy and core plates and found where my problem was... so I am good in that respect.

This was my own fault, as a librarian I should know obsessive research is the only way to make a decision, but I followed my gut and now I feel stupid.

So here is my questions for recommendations: Do I keep them and modify them cheaply, such as getting a khiro wedge kit? Do you think harder eliminators (87-93) will work? Or do I sell them, take the cut in what I paid and get something like a 10/10, 15/10, or 10/5 to replace it?

I love the feel of the plates, they are excellent, so I am leaning to the selling and rebuying, but if someone else has experienced this and has an easy fix I would be willing to listen.

Thanks!

[Petary791]

The only true answer, the one that will solve most problems in [skateboarding] life, is to TOPMOUNT YOUR TRUCKS! But seriously, I'm interested in hearing what people's ideas for fixing it are.

[streetheap]

I've been reading this thread for a bit off and on now, and I thought I'd jump into the game when some cindy 0* plates were posted in the classifieds. After reading Jar's write about how great the plates were on a toecutter I thought they would go well on my toecutter (except I didn't listen to his degree recommendation) So I bought a pair and they arrive in great condition and I put them on my toecutter with my hybrid indy bushing set up (sabre cone and lime reflex short cone) and I get hanger bite... so I figure the bushings are too soft, so I put on harder bushings (purple sabre and sabre cone) still get hanger bite. Then I put on the hardest combo I have (red reflex and purple sabre) and I still get hanger bite... Then I try my blue eliminators with the reflex barrel this was the best feeling combo, but I still get hanger bite. Then I topmounted the plates. This was better, and a nice ride, but I didn't like the feeling of the toecutter topmounted so I put it back. I compared them to my indy and core plates and found where my problem was... so I am good in that respect.

This was my own fault, as a librarian I should know obsessive research is the only way to make a decision, but I followed my gut and now I feel stupid.

So here is my questions for recommendations: Do I keep them and modify them cheaply, such as getting a khiro wedge kit? Do you think harder eliminators (87-93) will work? Or do I sell them, take the cut in what I paid and get something like a 10/10, 15/10, or 10/5 to replace it?

I love the feel of the plates, they are excellent, so I am leaning to the selling and rebuying, but if someone else has experienced this and has an easy fix I would be willing to listen.

Thanks!

Dropped thru Cindys can be rough. If you have a thick board (10+ply) then there's not much room for anything. I did have them dropped thru on my 10-ply Asym, but definintely like them better topmounted.
Xgecko drops his through on a Clutch something or another (I believe). You might wanna PM him. He's a smart guy.
As far as baseplate angles, I run my Asym on the shortest wheelbase (around 31.5) and use the 10/5 plates. But the way I got my bushings setup, I could easily go 10/10 and it wouldn't be that much different, because I've got mine setup to be pretty responsive. I have gone with a stock Indy plate front, 0* rear for less turny hills, and that was fine as well. I'm really not a good enough DH'er to be super picky, so I just deal with what I have. Although.... experimenting with different boards and plates is pretty fun. I haven't really found a setup with these that I can't fix with a bushing tweak, so I must be doing something right. I do know that I don't like less than a 10* front though.
Sorry I'm kinda rambling but I hope I helped in some way.

[enemy combatant]

Quit calling vertical kingpin Indy setups "0°", it's not. The angle of the pivot axis determines a Chicago geometry truck's turning angle not the angle of the kingpin.

BTW, I've got an Earthwing Mystery Model with a rear Indy 215 dewedged to almost vertical with Khiro 15° wedges from the kit and it works great with a RII 180 up front. The wedging brings the Indy axle to about the same height as the Randal. Maybe Santa will bring me a Cindrich baseplate for Christmas but I'm not holding my breath...

[B Dollar Bill Symbol]

Quit calling vertical kingpin Indy setups "0°", it's not. The angle of the pivot axis determines a Chicago geometry truck's turning angle not the angle of the kingpin.

BTW, I've got an Earthwing Mystery Model with a rear Indy 215 dewedged to almost vertical with Khiro 15° wedges from the kit and it works great with a RII 180 up front. The wedging brings the Indy axle to about the same height as the Randal. Maybe Santa will bring me a Cindrich baseplate for Christmas but I'm not holding my breath...

I fixed my terminology.

[streetheap]

Quit calling vertical kingpin Indy setups "0°", it's not. The angle of the pivot axis determines a Chicago geometry truck's turning angle not the angle of the kingpin.

I know, and I don't care. I'm referencing the KP angle, not the turning angle. For what we're doing here, it's easier to label them this way.
Most people who ride these things realize how they steer.

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[UltyHuck13]

I fixed it.

maybe I'm tripping on something and I don't know it, but what did you change?

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