speed wobble

[wicked sol]

I have a pair of orginal trucks right now i love them and can carve great on them but i do get wobbles when i pick up alot of speed what would be a great truck that elimates the wobble

[gavmck]

No truck eliminates wobble unfortunately, it's YOU.

On the other hand some nice Randals would be much more stable than those originals, but they won't turn as much. It's all trade offs

[ChrisFranco]

you can buy harder shocks off of the original skateboard site. get the red ones i think, im not to experienced with their trucks.

[floyd0matic]

No truck eliminates wobble unfortunately, it's YOU.

I heard some where here on the 'fish "90% rider 10% equipment"

[Barf]

No truck eliminates wobble unfortunately, it's YOU.

On the other hand some nice Randals would be much more stable than those originals, but they won't turn as much. It's all trade offs

+1. Originals are a ton of fun and I ride them a lot, but they're just not built for stability at speed. They're good up to about 20mph for beginners and up to about 35mph if you're experienced with them, but beyond that you're really better off moving to a truck that's built with stability in mind.

[Chainmaillekid]

I heard some where here on the 'fish "90% rider 10% equipment"

I dont buy that.

Trucks get speed wobble, and riders have to learn how to counteract so it doesn't happen.
Ive never gotten speed wobble, and I acredit it to my equipment.
Unless you All insist that Ive never gotten them because of my skills, thats good too.

[mcgoon]

A board won't wobble down a hill unless there's someone on it.

[Chainmaillekid]

A board won't wobble down a hill unless there's someone on it.

Of course it wont, the deck doesnt have enough weight or leverage to make the trucks do anything, the wheels might as well be fixed.

[kenny winchester]

get the tighter springs for going down hills and the best trucks for the carving down them are the s10s for crazy hills

[kenny winchester]

dont switch trucks unless your switching to anoher original trucks the springs make the difference and they are the best trucks to carve on and are strurdier than the sidewinders by gullwing

[Hanael]

I dont buy that.

Trucks get speed wobble, and riders have to learn how to counteract so it doesn't happen.
Ive never gotten speed wobble, and I acredit it to my equipment.
Unless you All insist that Ive never gotten them because of my skills, thats good too.

lol.
you counteract, and it gets worse.

calm your self, and follow the wobble slowly, and it'll gone slowly....
....well, it depends.

eh, that's what i normally do, but #### happens sometimes.

[partninjas]

In my experience from upgrading from a black spring to the white spring didn't affect wobbles at all. Original trucks are carvers through and through. Not for speeds.

Any type reverse kingpin truck or conventional trucks will be much more stable that the originals assuming you can handle the speed.

[JamieReis]

I dont buy that.

Trucks get speed wobble, and riders have to learn how to counteract so it doesn't happen.
Ive never gotten speed wobble, and I acredit it to my equipment.
Unless you All insist that Ive never gotten them because of my skills, thats good too.

No they don't. Like was stated in the next quote, boards are built with the trucks dead center so that they don't get wobbles. You can launch it 100mph down a hill and if the force was applied evenly, it will not wobble.

A board won't wobble down a hill unless there's someone on it.

Exactly.

Of course it wont, the deck doesnt have enough weight or leverage to make the trucks do anything, the wheels might as well be fixed.

Your weight placement is what will give you wobbles. If you have your weight perfectly centered over the deck, you will never get wobbles no matter what the equipment you're using because the trucks will never move. If you weight is off, you will wobble one way and your body's natural instinct is to counteract in the opposite direction which causes the trucks to rebound in the opposite direction etc etc until you have wobbles out of control. A good rider knows how to put his/her weight centered over the deck and how not to counteract when you get a single wobble.

All rider.

[Chainmaillekid]

lol.
you counteract, and it gets worse.

calm your self, and follow the wobble slowly, and it'll gone slowly....
....well, it depends.

eh, that's what i normally do, but #### happens sometimes.

Thats kinda what I ment by counteracting.

Did you know you cant get speed wobble if you put your trucks on backwards? :o

[Chainmaillekid]

No they don't. Like was stated in the next quote, boards are built with the trucks dead center so that they don't get wobbles. You can launch it 100mph down a hill and if the force was applied evenly, it will not wobble.



Exactly.



Your weight placement is what will give you wobbles. If you have your weight perfectly centered over the deck, you will never get wobbles no matter what the equipment you're using because the trucks will never move. If you weight is off, you will wobble one way and your body's natural instinct is to counteract in the opposite direction which causes the trucks to rebound in the opposite direction etc etc until you have wobbles out of control. A good rider knows how to put his/her weight centered over the deck and how not to counteract when you get a single wobble.

All rider.

Doesnt always having the weight always equally distributed go aginst the whole purpose of trucks?

Yes, if you ONLY go straight, then you wont get wobble.

And btw, roads arnt perfectly flat, and trucks arnt perfectly made.
I could make a dead weight dummy, stick it on a board and send it down a hill, And eventually it would get speed wobble.

Its not your body instinct that pulls the board back, Its your body weight. The board can move faster than your center of gravity.

You're standing on your board and it zips to the right. Where is your weight?
Its gunna be on the left side, and so the board zips back.

And it will keep going and building energy untill it goes too far, or it compleatly loses grip. Unless the rider stops it of course.

by "following" the wobble you are counteracting, and keeping your weight more centered on the deck.

[Steve Ignorant]

Doesnt always having the weight always equally distributed go aginst the whole purpose of trucks?

Yes, if you ONLY go straight, then you wont get wobble.

And btw, roads arnt perfectly flat, and trucks arnt perfectly made.
I could make a dead weight dummy, stick it on a board and send it down a hill, And eventually it would get speed wobble.

Its not your body instinct that pulls the board back, Its your body weight. The board can move faster than your center of gravity.

You're standing on your board and it zips to the right. Where is your weight?
Its gunna be on the left side, and so the board zips back.

And it will keep going and building energy untill it goes too far, or it compleatly loses grip. Unless the rider stops it of course.

by "following" the wobble you are counteracting, and keeping your weight more centered on the deck.

Quit reshaping your arguments to loosely follow what the correct people are saying, and then attempting to pass off your modified comments as being knowledge that you have gathered through experience. Nothing can 'move faster than your center of gravity'. Your center of gravity does not move, it's not like your center of gravity gets left twenty feet behind you, so you start wobbling.

Wobbles that are bad enough to knock you off your board are caused by over-correction. No one was claiming that trucks are meant to go straight down a hill and never turn. However, you can counter-act the centrifugal forces of making a hairpin turn to your right by having enough control to recognize that while making said turn, you are keeping your weight centered and controlled evenly by knowing the limitations of your equipment and being skilled enough to feel comfortable on your board.

If you give credit to your set-up that you have never gotten speed wobbles, then you're an ignorant douche-bag who hasn't ever gone very fast. Just because you got a carbon-fiber evo with maguns and mo-mos doesn't mean you're some prodigy of longboarding for not skinning your elbow when you go 20mph down your local garage.

[Chainmaillekid]

Quit reshaping your arguments to loosely follow what the correct people are saying, and then attempting to pass off your modified comments as being knowledge that you have gathered through experience. Nothing can 'move faster than your center of gravity'. Your center of gravity does not move, it's not like your center of gravity gets left twenty feet behind you, so you start wobbling.

Wobbles that are bad enough to knock you off your board are caused by over-correction. No one was claiming that trucks are meant to go straight down a hill and never turn. However, you can counter-act the centrifugal forces of making a hairpin turn to your right by having enough control to recognize that while making said turn, you are keeping your weight centered and controlled evenly by knowing the limitations of your equipment and being skilled enough to feel comfortable on your board.

If you give credit to your set-up that you have never gotten speed wobbles, then you're an ignorant douche-bag who hasn't ever gone very fast. Just because you got a carbon-fiber evo with maguns and mo-mos doesn't mean you're some prodigy of longboarding for not skinning your elbow when you go 20mph down your local garage.

My flat plywood deck and homemade trucks are flattered that you asumed my setup was as sweet as that.

I dont think you're getting my point with the center of gravity thing. And centrifugal force has nothing to do with anything.

Ill just make a dummy weight to demonsrate, and toss it down a hill on a board.

Fixed weight will wobble.

[Wells]

Speed wobbles are all about the rider's skills, but Original trucks certainly don't help anything. Buy 50º Randal 180s and you'll be better set up for speed while retaining maneuverability.

[Barf]

Why do people keep bringing up this stupid "Speed Wobbles: Rider, or Equipment?" thing?

It's obvious that a skilled rider will get the wobs less often (or never) compared to somebody who sucks.

It's also obvious that nobody..NOBODY.. races on Originals, Revenges, Exkates, Carver C7s, or other similar trucks. And it's obvious why: Because they're not stable enough at high speeds. "Not stable enough" meaning "more prone to wobbles".

Rider skills may mean more than equipment, but if you use equipment that's badly mis-matched for the job, skill ain't gonna save you.

*edit - Dammit, Wells- no fair making my point while work's keeping me from finishing my reply.

[Chainmaillekid]

Why do people keep bringing up this stupid "Speed Wobbles: Rider, or Equipment?" thing?

It's obvious that a skilled rider will get the wobs less often (or never) compared to somebody who sucks.

It's also obvious that nobody..NOBODY.. races on Originals, Revenges, Exkates, Carver C7s, or other similar trucks. And it's obvious why: Because they're not stable enough at high speeds. "Not stable enough" meaning "more prone to wobbles".

Rider skills may mean more than equipment, but if you use equipment that's badly mis-matched for the job, skill ain't gonna save you.

*edit - Dammit, Wells- no fair making my point while work's keeping me from finishing my reply.

I can agree to this easy enough.
Especially the mismatched equipment bit.