Paris claim over randal

**FellLucifer** · 07-02-2009 08:49 PM

Found this on Daddies Board Shop in the Paris 180 truck description

"The main difference between these longboard trucks and Randal's is that Paris trucks are cast in a centrifugal casting machine. What you get is a greater molecularly bonded casting, giving you fewer defects and greater durability, stronger baseplate, stronger hanger, more piece of mind when tearing downhill at 50MPH. "

Is this true?
Purely a question, it's not to fight over which trucks are better.

**enemy combatant** · 07-02-2009 08:56 PM

meh... I've seen them both break when slammed into curbs.

Also, a lot of retailers just cut and paste promotional copy from the manufacturer to their website product page for that particular part.

**Mile_High_Mark** · 07-02-2009 09:05 PM

Any truck is only as strong as the weakest part/component. A strong casting is good, but if you have weak axles or kingpins (for example), the benefit is somewhat canceled out.

**stephen.mhsrider** · 07-02-2009 09:06 PM

they spelt "peace" wrong

**hill-bomber** · 07-02-2009 09:15 PM

Originally Posted by stephen.mhsrider

they spelt "peace" wrong

I'd eat my brains while going DH.

**stephen.mhsrider** · 07-02-2009 09:29 PM

Originally Posted by hill-bomber

I'd eat my brains while going DH.

lolwut?

10brains

**mrgumdropman** · 07-02-2009 09:37 PM

Originally Posted by Mile_High_Mark

Any truck is only as strong as the weakest part/component. A strong casting is good, but if you have weak axles or kingpins (for example), the benefit is somewhat canceled out.

thats like saying your band is only as good as its drummer haha
( im a drummer too, but i play lead in my band)

**luftywaffles** · 07-02-2009 09:43 PM

Originally Posted by mrgumdropman

thats like saying your band is only as good as its drummer haha
( im a drummer too, but i play lead in my band)

If your drummer sucks monkey balls, then your band is only as good as the worst person. so Mark is actually right.

R · 07-02-2009 10:10 PM

Originally Posted by FellLucifer

Found this on Daddies Board Shop in the Paris 180 truck description

"The main difference between these longboard trucks and Randal's is that Paris trucks are cast in a centrifugal casting machine. What you get is a greater molecularly bonded casting, giving you fewer defects and greater durability, stronger baseplate, stronger hanger, more piece of mind when tearing downhill at 50MPH. "

Is this true?
Purely a question, it's not to fight over which trucks are better.

One is made by capitalists and the other made by communists.

**slayer9019** · 07-02-2009 10:15 PM

both trucks break the same

i like paris cause they look cleaner

**tomahawk** · 07-02-2009 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by FellLucifer

Found this on Daddies Board Shop in the Paris 180 truck description

"The main difference between these longboard trucks and Randal's is that Paris trucks are cast in a centrifugal casting machine. What you get is a greater molecularly bonded casting, giving you fewer defects and greater durability, stronger baseplate, stronger hanger, more piece of mind when tearing downhill at 50MPH. "

Is this true?
Purely a question, it's not to fight over which trucks are better.

i express skepticism at the statement of "greater molecularly bonded casting", and would say with a good amount of certainty that that's pure marketing mumbo jumbo trying to toss around fancy scientific words.

but will say that a better casting method will result in few defects in the metal itself and lend itself towards a stronger hanger/baseplate.

as to how it compares to randal, that is unknown, since i do not know randal's casting methods.

you know what wouldbe rad tho? Some student in a materials science lab can somehow buy 20-30 sets of each of the main trucks (randal, paris, crail, bear), and conduct tests on every one of the trucks to detemine the material properties of the axles, hangers, baseplates. So that way we could get some actual meaningful statistical data on truck strength, durability, etc, and thus not only the various manufacters could used this openly published data to improve their products, but also the consumer would have a CONCRETE way of judging which truck is better (mechanically). just a pipe dream tho...

**rosewood thief** · 07-03-2009 12:00 AM

i prefer american made trucks that arent selling out because adam colton put his signature on them. it all depends on what you like really, i like randal because they have the same carving ability of paris and can also keep from being twitchy at higher speeds. while i cant take paris past 30. also they have different baseplate options, 50, 42, 35, while paris only has 50? ?

**Alpha06** · 07-03-2009 12:04 AM

Originally Posted by rosewood thief

i prefer american made trucks that arent selling out because adam colton put his signature on them. it all depends on what you like really, i like randal because they have the same carving ability of paris and can also keep from being twitchy at higher speeds. while i cant take paris past 30. also they have different baseplate options, 50, 42, 35, while paris only has 50? ?

I love Randal trucks, dont get me wrong. But for some reason, I can take my deck with Paris trucks set SUPER loose down a twitchy 30mph road with no wobble, yet I wobble out on my 42* randal trucks on the same setup somewhat loose. I have no idea why. I have noticed that the pivot point cast quality on Paris trucks is more "round"/perfect than that of Randal trucks. The pivot point casting on tracker fastrack trucks is absolute garbage compared to these two companies.

Speaking of which, I have a set of tracker fastracks for sale, used once

**rosewood thief** · 07-03-2009 12:06 AM

for me its the complete other way around, i have loose 50* randals with 81a venoms that have been taken 35, i could definately go faster but im limited to my local hills. but tight ass paris wobble like crazy for me anything over 20

**Hanael** · 07-03-2009 12:08 AM

Originally Posted by R

One is made by capitalists and the other made by communists.

which one is better?

**guivans** · 07-03-2009 05:01 AM

The ones from the Democratic Fascists...

**Weeble818** · 07-03-2009 06:47 AM

Originally Posted by R

One is made by capitalists and the other made by communists.

**Longbord1** · 07-03-2009 07:19 AM

Originally Posted by Alpha06

I love Randal trucks, dont get me wrong. But for some reason, I can take my deck with Paris trucks set SUPER loose down a twitchy 30mph road with no wobble, yet I wobble out on my 42* randal trucks on the same setup somewhat loose. I have no idea why. I have noticed that the pivot point cast quality on Paris trucks is more "round"/perfect than that of Randal trucks. The pivot point casting on tracker fastrack trucks is absolute garbage compared to these two companies.

Speaking of which, I have a set of tracker fastracks for sale, used once

haha for some reason I am the complete opposite.

**howdyrowdy** · 07-03-2009 09:33 AM

I've tried flipped hangars on my Randal R2's, it lowered the caster angle by a little bit. Then i noticed when i was setting up my brothers board with Paris 180's i flipped the hangars just for sh*ts and gigs and wow did it change the caster angle significantly more than my Randys!
That's a big difference i found between the two trucks that i once thought were too similar to notice.
The other difference i noticed was the size of the pivot cups. It seems to me that Randals can handle more friction, (thus more consistent turns), over a truck like Paris with a smaller pivot cup.