Trouble with bushings on Randals

**masscruzer2111** · 07-03-2009 05:35 PM

So i just got my randal 180's 50 degrees. I had two red venom barrels (90a) laying around so i set those up road side with the tall cone stock randal bushings board side. It was a struggle getting the kingpin nut back on and i had to tighten them a lot to get the trucks somewhat stable for moderate DH. When i undid the nut, the stock randal cones had sustained heavy tear and were out of shape from the washers. I flipped them but im afraid of the same thing. What should i do? Longer kingpins? larger washers? Im extremely worried cuz im waiting for a set of 93a venom barrals to arrive and they are even bigger.

**Cruzer** · 07-03-2009 06:03 PM

flat washers should help,
but you may have them TO tight, and thats deforming your bushings

**masscruzer2111** · 07-03-2009 07:34 PM

Originally Posted by Cruzer

flat washers should help,
but you may have them TO tight, and thats deforming your bushings

they are pretty hard bushings and they still feel too carvy for my liking

**Fmunkey** · 07-03-2009 07:35 PM

I had the same problem. It was solved by getting larger washers and a longer kingpin. Most people recommend 2.75", but I could only get 3" from ace hardware. Also, make sure you get grade 8. I called up randal and they said that the grade 5 would weaken over time.

**Brute379** · 07-03-2009 07:43 PM

A longer kingpin will solve most of your issues.

2.75 is best but 3" works fine.
3/8" fine thread grade 8 from the local hardware store is good. Soap shavings in the pivot cups and 5/16" flat washers.

**masscruzer2111** · 07-03-2009 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by Brute379

A longer kingpin will solve most of your issues.

2.75 is best but 3" works fine.
3/8" fine thread grade 8 from the local hardware store is good. Soap shavings in the pivot cups and 5/16" flat washers.

thanks alot man, and if i got the 3" one would i need to worry about catching the extra length of teh kingpin on the pavement (kingpin "bite")

**Fmunkey** · 07-03-2009 07:55 PM

Originally Posted by masscruzer2111

thanks alot man, and if i got the 3" one would i need to worry about catching the extra length of teh kingpin on the pavement (kingpin "bite")

If you have the threads facing the board, you won't have any issues.

**Brute379** · 07-03-2009 08:54 PM

I run my 3" kingpins flipped (threads toward pavement) and have had no issues.

If you are ordering parts online get the 2.75 and add it to your order, but I don't think its worth it to just order kingpins alone online.