Venom bushing types - am i missing something?

[FirstAttempt]

I never swapped out bushings before so searched a bit and posted, then deicided on Venom Standard 85a or 90a, cause i'm 150-160 and want it to be carvy, and able to do some dh. Am i missing something about bushing types?

Longboard Skateboard & Snowboard Shop - Daddies Board Shop - Since 1995 - Search - Has venoms split into dh, standard, and super carve, then duros.

LongboardSkater.com: Venom Longboard Skateboard Bushings - Has venom cones and barrels but doesn't split them into dh, standard, and super carve. It only splits them into duros?

So... I sent longboardskater.com an email -


I sent :

On your site the venom bushings aside from the eliminators don't have what type they are. Is it assumed that they are all standard or are some downhill or super carve?



And I recieved:

Appreciate you checking us out! All the Venoms are sold in single bushings, that way you can mix a match shape and duro. All bushings state if there barrel or conical and the duro



Does that mean the formulas are the same for dh, standard, and super carve and the bushings are the same, or that the different packages of barrel barrel, cone cone, or barrel cone are advertised for certain things?

[bpz]

"The different packages of barrel barrel, cone cone, or barrel cone are advertised for certain things" - this is correct.

All the bushings are the same formula... only different colors/duros/shapes

[stringtheory]

Here's the reason. Longboardskater sells single bushings, by shape and duro. Venoms usually come in all duros in packs of 2. A pack of 2 cones is called supercarve. A barrel and a cone is called standard. and 2 barrels is called downhill.

[mattyoaks]

Does that mean the formulas are the same for dh, standard, and super carve and the bushings are the same

Yes, same urethane, just different shapes.

Get these Venom Eliminator Bushings
in Red and Yellow, or Yellow and Orange (1st is more stable, 2nd more turny), then be happy

[LaneMeyer]

It's quite simple. Barrels without cones are simply supercarve that can be used for downhill unless the duro is below a 89a then you want to switch to a standard pack of cones which are only standard at or below an 85a unless they are cones in the downhill pack which would be standard only they aren't because of the duro being more relavant to a double barrel downhill in the 81a range. Of course when sliding use blue because blue is best for sliding.

[Wolfin]

If you like a good rebound and a stable center, get barrel/barrel (downhill).

If you like a loose feel, maybe barrel boardside, cone roadside (standard).

If you're on some setup that won't wheelbite, and you're crazy (awesome), get a cone/cone (supercarve).

Barrels without cones are simply supercarve that can be used for downhill unless the duro is below a 89a then you want to switch to a standard pack of cones which are only standard at or below an 85a unless they are cones in the downhill pack which would be standard only they aren't because of the duro being more relavant to a double barrel downhill in the 81a range.

Holy run-on sentence, batman! ;__;

[AFTT]

It's quite simple. Barrels without cones are simply supercarve that can be used for downhill unless the duro is below a 89a then you want to switch to a standard pack of cones which are only standard at or below an 85a unless they are cones in the downhill pack which would be standard only they aren't because of the duro being more relavant to a double barrel downhill in the 81a range. Of course when sliding use blue because blue is best for sliding.

[Snowboarderdude]

This is kind of off topic sorry for that but the are the bushings that come standard with newer paris trucks venoms or are they paris "version of venoms" (the same formula) And how do they compair with venoms?

[Wolfin]

This is kind of off topic sorry for that but the are the bushings that come standard with newer paris trucks venoms or are they paris "version of venoms" (the same formula) And how do they compair with venoms?

I've heard they're the same formula. My 93A cone might actually be a stock Paris bushing, but it's squishy as hell. And I love it. So I'm calling it a venom >_>

[Thotograph]

I'm currently running a purple barrel and orange cone on my Nemesis with Bear 852's. Short wb config with the hanger unflipped. It turns like a dream though I wouldn't be going all out DH on that setup. I'm only 130lbs and she turns good and loose, so I'd say go with at least one duro up from the purps (87a I think). I believe the next duro up would be the reds. I'm going to get a pair of orange barrels as well to see if they help with stability (in place of the orange cones). I was also a little concerned because the cup washer was digging into the hanger of my bears. Not good... hopefully the damage isn't too bad.

[elvk-]

It's quite simple. Barrels without cones are simply supercarve that can be used for downhill unless the duro is below a 89a then you want to switch to a standard pack of cones which are only standard at or below an 85a unless they are cones in the downhill pack which would be standard only they aren't because of the duro being more relavant to a double barrel downhill in the 81a range. Of course when sliding use blue because blue is best for sliding.

my brain hurts. if that is how you put something in simplistic terms i'd hate to see this method of describing something difficult.

[gavmck]

That does hurt. I'll see if I can do better.

Venom only make 1 urethane formula, they use the different shapes to change the feel of the bushings.

Venom only make 3 shapes of bushing, eliminator, barrel and cone.

Supercarve, downhill and standard are just different ways of combining their barrel and cone bushings.

So, for example, if you want 'standard', purchase one barrel and one cone per truck.

LongboardSkater has made it even more customisable by just selling you one bushing at a go. Yuu can create you own standard, dh and super carve packs by combining barrels and conce in different ways.

Have fun!

[hoch92000]

From the movie Scanners?

On a more serious note, I think the Barrels are taller in the barrel set, than the single barrel that comes in the barrel cone combo.

[FirstAttempt]

Thanks for the explanations and help .

[AJ]

What is the new purple venom?

[Brain Smoothie]

What is the new purple venom?

87a

10char

[Lukasz]

So currently Im riding 50* randals with 78a venom standards. I weigh 125ish. Obviously this is a loose, carvy setup.

Here's my predicament, my setup, plus the fact that i ride my trucks super loose doesn't make it stable at speeds. True I could tighten up for hills, which I do, but it still feels very unsafe. So what bushings do you guys suggest? A harder duro standard, dh, or elims? I still want to be able to carve somewhat, I hate when bushings restrict a board too much. Sorry if I jacked the thread

[howdyrowdy]

So currently Im riding 50* randals with 78a venom standards. I weigh 125ish. Obviously this is a loose, carvy setup.

Here's my predicament, my setup, plus the fact that i ride my trucks super loose doesn't make it stable at speeds. True I could tighten up for hills, which I do, but it still feels very unsafe. So what bushings do you guys suggest? A harder duro standard, dh, or elims? I still want to be able to carve somewhat, I hate when bushings restrict a board too much. Sorry if I jacked the thread

I would suggest switching to a super carve (double cone) setup and stepping up to a 83a or a 87a duro.
The higher duro will give you better stability and the cone shape will yield carveability.

[Wolfin]

I would suggest switching to a super carve (double cone) setup and stepping up to a 83a or a 87a duro.
The higher duro will give you better stability and the cone shape will yield carveability.

And if that's too unstable for you, a... 80A/85A elim boardside, and a 78A/80A barrel roadside would be carvy too, just more return-to-centerness.

[Lukasz]

And if that's too unstable for you, a... 80A/85A elim boardside, and a 78A/80A barrel roadside would be carvy too, just more return-to-centerness.

sorry guys, I didnt explain myself well, i was in a hurry, I meant to say that I want to get some bushings for downhill riding / bombing without the bushings being too restricting, meaning that I could still carve a bit