What to do with messed up trucks?

**jmclure** · 03-22-2006 04:21 PM

I agree with Silversurfer, don't worry if it's not straight with no weight on it as long as you can make it go straight riding it. How often do you ride straight anyway. I would replace the kingpins with grade 8s. Just take them to the hardware store and ask for grade 8. Also check to see if maybe your axles are bent. If they are visibly bent you might be able to bend them back. Also you might want to replace your bushings in the Crails. The ones mine came with are hard as rocks (good only for straight bombs, not carving). I put blue bones hardcores in them and they carve figure 8's (looks nice too cause the trucks are blue).
Definately put the crails on your carving board and the indys on your slide set up. That is the best setup for having 2 boards. You can bomb, carve, and walk the longboard, and slide and ride parks and vert on the shortboard.

**bpz** · 03-22-2006 04:32 PM

Take the hanger off of the baseplate, so you're left with the hanger and 2 wheels attached. Stand it up vertically so one of the wheels is touching the ground on its side. Make sure you have it on a level surface. Put pressure/weight down onto the bottom wheel that's touching the ground, and spin the hanger. Look at the axle sticking up through the wheel on top. When spinning the axle, look for the axle to wobble. Stock, my Crails are fairly bent. This is probably the problem.

SS - if he flipped the hangers from front>back, and it started turning to the other way... I doubt it would be the deck

**silversurfer** · 03-22-2006 04:59 PM

Originally Posted by Sofa King

SS - if he flipped the hangers from front>back, and it started turning to the other way... I doubt it would be the deck

Good point, but you never know.

Stranger things have happened.

**bpz** · 03-22-2006 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by silversurfer

Originally Posted by Sofa King

SS - if he flipped the hangers from front>back, and it started turning to the other way... I doubt it would be the deck

Good point, but you never know.

Stranger things have happened.

Good call. Again, I'm willing to bet the hangers are off.

**jshalvorsen** · 03-22-2006 06:33 PM

sounds pretty normal to me, I can make my board go straight, to the right or to the left(without me on top) if you have stock bushings(like me) the rebound suck. So if you skate, turn hard to one side, step off and let the board roll for itself it will usually go to the side you turned last, just before you got off. Due to sucky rebound. When I walk uphill I often kick the board in front of me, and thats the reason I found out.

As long as you can go straight when you are on the board I see no big problem.

I might be wrong, but thougth I'd give my opinion too

**boogieman** · 03-22-2006 07:37 PM

who cares, as long as it doesnt swirve hardcore as if ur leaning full wieght to the side it will be okay, my subsonic with randall 180s turns slightly to the left, i dont care, the only time i would consider it a problem is if something is messed up like the holes, bent hanger/axle, something real
no truck now a days is perfect, unless you pay top dollar,
thats my 2 cents

**RabbitFrog** · 03-22-2006 07:58 PM

Ok if anyone is still coming to help me. I will summarize.

- first of all it's not the deck, I have two decks and I switched the trucks from one to the other and the one that didn't swirve started to swirve and vice versa

- it's not the wheels either because I did the same with the wheels

- it's not the holes that mount the trucks either because I also changed hardware and decks

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Now. What's wrong is that when I push the board with no weight on, really carefully with my hands straight it swirves to the left. Now I heard about these things before and I heard that it's kind of "normal" and my indies did that too and then they broke in and ride straight now.

The only problem is that it swirves too much. Within 20 meters or so it would be going almost backwards. I could make a circle in a big enough parking lot.

Also yeah, I was willing to accept it as it is, that's why my original question was should I use it on carving deck or on a sliding deck. Which discipline would tolerate this more and cause me less injuries. But people are really helpfull so now I am curious to get to the bottom of this.

I think I am almost positive as to which truck it is, because when it swirved to the left it swirved a lot and when I switched the hangers and put front to back it started to roll to the right but less. I am guessing because the front truck is straight and it's pulling it more forward.

I am going to test the hangers for wobble like Sofa King sujested as soon as I finish this post.

Thanks a lot for so many different advices.

**RabbitFrog** · 03-22-2006 08:02 PM

also ...just remembered... I had an accident first time I rode them. the board kind of hit a concrete "wall" with me on it and possibly not the board but the end of the truck...I wasn't going too fast or too slow either.

**RabbitFrog** · 03-22-2006 08:20 PM

Well I tried spinning the hangars and well first I thought that was it because the rear truck was wobbling and then I did the front and it's wobbling too. I think it's a design or something. The both turn and wobble exactly the same.

I tried looking at them closer and everything and the only thing I could find is that the hole through which a kingpin is going through has a slight dent.

Like let's say you make a perfectly round "pie" out of clay and then you touch the edge and you woulld make a dent so it would go up a bit and create a sort of a bump... I don't know if I am explaining correctly.

But that's what it is. But I doubt it would be a problem because bushings are soft and this "bump" just goes into it.

I guess we are all out of ideas then.

Let's see if I can just try a new hangar at a skateshop just to see if it would make it roll straight.

**stanton** · 03-23-2006 02:54 PM

I'm beginning to think its all in your head...

**chemicalanarchy** · 03-23-2006 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by stanton

I'm beginning to think its all in your head...

since i cant make any sense out of what is being said, me too

**nbro3232** · 03-23-2006 03:20 PM

TAKE PICTURES AND POST THEM

**RabbitFrog** · 03-24-2006 08:34 AM

The board rolls to the left some helpfull people sudgested some things and my posts were replies to that and what results they brought. In the end it all came down to hangars. The board rolls to the left (a lot not just slightly) if I switch front and back hangars it rolls to the right. So something is wrong with the hangars (maybe). They appear perfectly normal. And I don't think a pixelated, low light and low quality zoom from a cheap digital camera would show you more then I am telling.

I am really repeating the same thing now and not making it any clearer. If you know what kind of damage or defect to the hangar may do that let me know what to look for. Other than that I am just going for a replacement hangar then.

**stanton** · 03-24-2006 08:40 AM

have you tried flipping them? crails do not have a changeable castor like randalls, so this may also help you figure out which hangar is the culprit.

**Lit** · 03-24-2006 08:54 AM

the spot where your bushing "hits" the hangar needs to be flat.
flip your board and look down the line. is one truck slightly tilted? is it the truck with the "bump" in the hangar? if so , break out the file..

**RabbitFrog** · 03-24-2006 10:04 AM

Ok I am looking at the truck that I think is faulty. And I think it is slightly under the angle.

No I haven't tried flipping them. This is the first truck of this kind so I am not used to flipping them so it kind of slipped my mind.

Ok now I flipped the truck and it appears that the board is going slightly more staright.

And I will actually go ahead and post a picture of that hangar, but it might take some time, to get the zoom right on that tiny spit that has a bump. So...coming soon then. I should be done within a half hour period, if you guys ain't here, I'd appreciate if you pop back in at some point and let me knwo what you think.

**RabbitFrog** · 03-24-2006 10:22 AM

well ok here are the pictures.

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...g/S2010057.jpg
http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c1...g/S2010055.jpg

Ok so here are the pictures with crappy flash going off and shining all over. The first one is doen with flash off. So you should be looking in the middle hole right at that bump. Could that be the source of all my misery.

**RabbitFrog** · 03-24-2006 10:52 AM

Afraid not, I filed that little thing and made the surface inside even but it didn't sqwat. So it has to be something else in the hangar.

**bpz** · 03-24-2006 11:46 AM

Wobbling of the trucks/axles isn't a design, it's a flaw. And if both are bent, no matter how "equal", I'm still willing to bet that's your problem. Ride your board hard and fuhgettaboudit :P