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Okay, so I've been sucked into the hype machine goddamnit, but:
 Originally Posted by ChrisChaput
When you want to swap your hangers onto another board, you loosen two 1/2" locknuts with your skate key, pull off the hanger, and along comes your kingpin, bushings, and spherical bearings, ready to slip onto the other board. Even your bushing tension is preserved!
So let me get this straight, this means we can buy one truck, a few different baseplates, and when we want to change boards for different courses, all we have to do is loosen up two nuts and slide the setup onto the plate on the other board? If so thats pretty f_ucking cool.
Goddamnit.
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I must say...looks like CC has a good one there...maybe even worth the wait....
stop typing...go skate a Pavel
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I made some axles for and got to ride some of the liquid protos.
A lesson I've learned about slalom trucks is that if you've got what you perceive to be a good idea, hurry the f*ck up and get it into production. My original Sputnik truck was essentially rendered redundant by Splitfires (fortunately before I committed to a run of castings) and the new Sputnik II, which has the dual inline pivot like a PVD combined with a *floating* kingpin which carries no load apart from the compression of the bushing stack, is in effect another version of the Fyre.
I'm ahead 'til I get behind. D'oh!.
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Chris, any potential problem for *baseplate* wheelbite at the 90mm or 100mm width? That's a real problem with Radikals, at least with non-trimmed front wheels. I don't think you ride your fronts as loose as I do, but I'm wondering if any of your other testers have said anything about it.
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 Originally Posted by JBH
Chris, any potential problem for *baseplate* wheelbite at the 90mm or 100mm width? That's a real problem with Radikals, at least with non-trimmed front wheels. I don't think you ride your fronts as loose as I do, but I'm wondering if any of your other testers have said anything about it.
On a Fyre Truck, you can't run your wheels into your mounting hardware. That would be a design flaw, now wouldn't it? The Radikals do two things wrong in that department. They put the mounting holes inline with the axle's rotation, and they also use a very thick baseplate which places your mounting hardware up closer to the wheels. I have some ZigZags with extended inner lips and they collide with the mounting hardware on Radikals.
Last edited by ChrisChaput; 10-27-2006 at 10:06 AM.
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 Originally Posted by Geezer-X
I made some axles for and got to ride some of the liquid protos.
...get it into production. My original Sputnik truck was essentially rendered redundant by Splitfires (fortunately before I committed to a run of castings) and the new Sputnik II, which has the dual inline pivot like a PVD combined with a *floating* kingpin which carries no load apart from the compression of the bushing stack, is in effect another version of the Fyre...
I think that a lot of us have designed the basic truck that you've rendered. I have a similar one using 688 (mini-mizer) bearings but didn't find an elegant way to assemble/disassemble it. Perhaps you have. If I can't wrench on my equipment quickly and easily, I won't use it. Period. I like USING equipment, not fixing equipment. The only problem solving that I want to do on raceday is figuring out what the best tool for job is, and how I'm going to attack the course. If I can't (easily) get what I want from my equipment, I already feel half defeated. I'm funamentally lazy, and I HATE dickin' around with stuff that is "supposed to all work together", but doesn't. It's as if the bearing guys and the wheel guys and the truck guys and the deck guys don't talk or agree on anything. If you find youreslf on the side of the road, CUSSING at your equipment because it doesn't fit together easily, the kingpin cross-threads (then breaks), you can't do a simple bushing change, the axle spins off when you try to take off your wheel, it doesn't support your hole pattern, you need a bunch of washers or spacers that you don't have (or lost in the dirt), you don't have the mystery allen wrench or 7/16" open end wrench or 7mm socket, you can't tighten up your locknuts, your bearings stick on the axles... ...need I continue?
Generally speaking, I design things for myself, and then figure out if the "masses" want what I got. I want to reduce my tool kit to a skate key. If I happent to have a cordless electric drill (or two) around here are the accessories that will make my pit stop a breeze. 3/8", 1/2", and 9/16" is enough for me...
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Re: Chaput Truck Alert
Chappie, while "the masses" are waiting for these wondertrucks, give us some nice high-rebound bushings!
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Re: Chaput Truck Alert
 Originally Posted by pithaya
Imagine if Bones Hardcores where your favorite bushing.. you would need 30 dollars of bushings per truck!!!
Look up the deffinition of "bushing." It doesn't allways mean hunks of urathane on a kingpin with a hanger in between.
I'm a man...I can change...if I have to...I guess.
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Is it the other word for doing somethin stupid?
He's totally Bushing it.
 Originally Posted by a_d_smooth
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 Originally Posted by El Beefo
Look up the deffinition of "bushing." It doesn't allways mean hunks of urathane on a kingpin with a hanger in between. 
I think they have been designated "bushings" because they are cylindrical sleeves on a post. Dan Gesmer and some other folks refer to them as "grommets". In the case of Chris' truck, they really aren't "bushings" anymore since they don't provide any structural function. Maybe we ought to start referring to them as "bouncy bits".
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oh man i cant wait to get a set of these and start grinding my local copings!!!
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hey yo son that's my name whats the word?
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Back in day (oh Grandpa), we also called them "rubbers", "grommets", and "cushions". But just like my pappy used to tell me, "It's easier to ride a horse in the direction it's going". Therefore, I'm going to call those big beautiful balls of bounce "bushings", and that steel thingy that holds them up a "kingpin". I'm also leaning toward small and large "cup washers" that help compress the bushings. That leaves us with three types of nuts - "pivot nuts", "axle nuts", and "kingpin nuts". Perhaps "speedrings" or "axle washers" and "bearing spacers". Of course I prefer "Biltin Washers" and "Biltin Spacers".
Then we have "axles" and "axle spacers", "hangers", "baseplates", "pivot pins", "pivot bearings", "snap rings", and "crosspins".
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Don't forget Cucumbers!
and don't mind me, I drink to much
 Originally Posted by a_d_smooth
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Re: Chaput Truck Alert
 Originally Posted by ChrisChaput
Proof? As in, they don't really exist? Wow. And I guess OJ was framed too.
I just took a picture of what was in my trunk, but I'm NOT telling you where I'm parked. BTW, the front truck on the green Ick has 12 bushings on it. Really. The 60/30 setup is for Tight and Hybrid, the 45/30 setup is for GS. I'll be swapping these baseplates out for 55 and 25 degree plates next.
Chris Barker called and told me his first impressions. He can't believe how much traction they provide as a REAR truck. Until now, a PVD was the only decent "non-offset" rear truck. Offseting my axles in line with the kingpin wouldn't change how they turn - it would only change the height and wheelbase. Another observation is that the front steers nicely and easily because the hanger isn't loading the bottom bushing under the weight of the rider, in addition to the compression from the top bushing (and without a big spherical bearing in between the bushings). As a result, he doesn't need to steeply wedge the front truck as he does with other styles of trucks. The others are hard to get to turn quickly enough. With mine he is going to use a shallower angle in the front and get more drive from his turns. I know it seems kind of strange, but the trucks steer so efficiently, that we'll sometimes want to take steering OUT. It's easy to do with lower baseplate angles and harder or wider bushings. I hope he rides them at the Dixie Cup in 9 days...

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Chappy is a machine, programmed to be awesome!
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Now those trucks are looking like slalom trucks and not a pair of old Strokers.
 Originally Posted by chris420
WE ARE THE ONLY COMPANY OUT THERE THAT CAN SELL A BOARD THAT SKATES THE SAME AS A NON LIGHTED BOARD
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Here's a rendering with some part names:
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wow.
thats really all I can say.
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AAaahhhg those are AMAZING... How are the DH Trucks coming along by the way ?
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