Randal RII downhill bushings

**panda_nelwin** · 04-05-2007 12:10 AM

I've got some RII 180's with the stock bushings and i started getting into downhill and want some better bushings. I weigh 145 and have a drop carve . what would be a good bushing setup?

**Jraice** · 04-05-2007 12:27 AM

Does it have the yellow soft bushings? I like those on my 150's, if you want a tight truck get some red randalls but the yellows are pretty stable and when tightened work great. Some khiro barrel's may be nice, they are supposed to be pretty good and you can get a kit that comes with the bushings and washers sized to fit them. E-mail Bob, he is very helpful. Tell him all your gear, weight, riding style, personal preferences and he will help you chose one of the 7 hardness's. He was very helpful via e-mail with me.

Honesty though those arent DH trucks, I have some buddies that use them but their hanger angle is not as low as most DH trucks. My crails are 45, I think randall DH's are 130-135, and so are force DH trucks. randalls are more in the 55-60 range.

I dont know for sure but you may be able to flip the hanger to make the truck more stable, I have heard about this with R2's but dont know the details.

Good luck getting into dh! If you can afford them I would highly recommend the Crail DH trucks, I love mine. I weigh about 155 and the stock bushings are great, soft and smooth but very stable when tightened. Also the Crails are right inbetween a standard turning truck and a serious DH truck, angle wise, so you get stability but dont throw all your manuverability away.

Originally Posted by panda_nelwin

I've got some RII 180's with the stock bushings and i started getting into downhill and want some better bushings. I weigh 145 and have a drop carve . what would be a good bushing setup?

**king edward** · 04-05-2007 12:40 AM

The blind leading the blind.

Buy a bunch of different khiro barrel packs and see what feels best. It will be a step in the right direction anyway.

**karrot** · 04-05-2007 01:28 AM

Originally Posted by Jraice

Does it have the yellow soft bushings? I like those on my 150's, if you want a tight truck get some red randalls but the yellows are pretty stable and when tightened work great. Some khiro barrel's may be nice, they are supposed to be pretty good and you can get a kit that comes with the bushings and washers sized to fit them. E-mail Bob, he is very helpful. Tell him all your gear, weight, riding style, personal preferences and he will help you chose one of the 7 hardness's. He was very helpful via e-mail with me.

Honesty though those arent DH trucks, I have some buddies that use them but their hanger angle is not as low as most DH trucks. My crails are 45, I think randall DH's are 130-135, and so are force DH trucks. randalls are more in the 55-60 range.

I dont know for sure but you may be able to flip the hanger to make the truck more stable, I have heard about this with R2's but dont know the details.

Good luck getting into dh! If you can afford them I would highly recommend the Crail DH trucks, I love mine. I weigh about 155 and the stock bushings are great, soft and smooth but very stable when tightened. Also the Crails are right inbetween a standard turning truck and a serious DH truck, angle wise, so you get stability but dont throw all your manuverability away.

randal dh is 35. a 135* hanger will turn the opposite way....

Originally Posted by king edward

The blind leading the blind.

no one sees the seventh sign

- mr malmsteen

**panda_nelwin** · 04-05-2007 11:02 AM

ya i have the hangars flipped and the yellow bushings. i wish i could afford new trucks or even lots of bushings but i have only 20 dollars so.. ya. whos this bob to email? i might trade for those red randal 150 bushing my friend has. how are those?

**Sherpa** · 04-05-2007 02:59 PM

red randal bushings... boo. very little compression, even less rebound, and no return to center at all. just get some khiro yellows and start from there.

**SpeedFiend** · 04-05-2007 03:08 PM

Flat washer

**panda_nelwin** · 04-06-2007 12:54 PM

Originally Posted by Sherpa-a-go-go

red randal bushings... boo. very little compression, even less rebound, and no return to center at all. just get some khiro yellows and start from there.

alright then how about khiro black in the back and yellow in the front(would these be better than the stocks). Whats the differencs in diff kinds of khiro bushings.

**Andrew in Ontario** · 04-06-2007 01:13 PM

flat washer and Jimz bushings.

**panda_nelwin** · 04-06-2007 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by Andrew in Ontario

flat washer and Jimz bushings.

Those are pretty expensive.. could i get a setup with khiros as good as those? would those carve well at all?

**Mile_High_Mark** · 04-06-2007 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by panda_nelwin

Those are pretty expensive.. could i get a setup with khiros as good as those? would those carve well at all?

What exactly are you looking to improve? Turning? Stability?

**panda_nelwin** · 04-06-2007 05:34 PM

Originally Posted by Mile_High_Mark

What exactly are you looking to improve? Turning? Stability?

stability im just wondering if the jimz would be dead when it came to turning or still descent.

**Mile_High_Mark** · 04-06-2007 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by panda_nelwin

stability im just wondering if the jimz would be dead when it came to turning or still descent.

They won't feel dead. If you want more stability, get some orange or black Indy replacement bushings. Might take 2 flat washers to "shim" the bottom one, but no biggie.

**panda_nelwin** · 04-06-2007 06:10 PM

why are the jimzs 80a and randal are 92a but jimz are the speed bushing? just the shape?

**Mile_High_Mark** · 04-06-2007 06:11 PM

Originally Posted by panda_nelwin

why are the jimzs 80a and randal are 92a but jimz are the speed bushing? just the shape?

Shape has as much to do with feel as it does duro.

**panda_nelwin** · 04-09-2007 05:51 PM

ok so i switched to the randal r2 red ones and theyre alot nicer but what would the jimzs be like compared to them when it comes to carving and to speedboarding.

**SteveC** · 04-09-2007 06:01 PM

JimZ are so much better it's not funny. IMO
stock randal bushings are harder but conical. so they're quite mushy for how hard they are. they also have no rebound to speak of.

JimZ on the other hand are softer but shaped in a way that gives them, err artificial hardness for lack of a better term.
And they bounce back like any thing.

I can pump my evo now... at the same setting I use bombing.

**Justin Metcalf** · 04-09-2007 06:04 PM

alright dude...here's a hint...Jimz bushings are designed by...JIMZ. Having never ridden them I am still going to bank on the fact that they are better at just about everything compared to Randal stock bushings. They will probably center better, turn better, provide more stability, and rebound better. Although I have never ridden them so I guess you probably shouldn't take my word for it...but if I knew nothing else...I would pick Jimz bushings over anythign randall puts out.