Which Base plate angle is the best for carving?

**climbingbubba** · 05-05-2009 11:02 PM

Im currently planning on building up a loaded dervish and am torn between trucks. I have been reading up and haven't found exactly what base plate angles do.

so my question is

would the Grizzly bear 852's (55 degree) carve better than the randall (50 degree) or paris (50 degree) trucks.

i want a super carvy board for staying in controll and carving really hard. i won't be bombing any significant hills. im more concerned with turning really sharp and staying slow. maybe learning how to do some basic slides as well to help the whole slow and in control thing.

the rest of my build is
loaded dervish flex 1 (i weigh 185)
retro bigzig's 75mm 80a
abec 3 bearings

i want to go slow and in control.

**speshlspeclsteak** · 05-05-2009 11:04 PM

i like the way 50* randals carve but my fav is tracker fastracks with karrot bushings

**Jozerthegreat** · 05-05-2009 11:08 PM

LOL you have those pretty mixed up my friend bears come in 52 and 40.randals in 50 42 and 35 and Paris are only 50. If your planning on just straight up carving I would say some Paris 180 depending on what board you have. Or if you ever plan on dh in the future some randal 50 are nice and stable but carve hard or if your cool like some people get two randal 50 base plates and throw Paris hangars on them. I tried it and now I will never change unless I get precisions

**lflandy** · 05-05-2009 11:15 PM

Holeys FTW!!! you will not be dissappointed

**Wells** · 05-05-2009 11:19 PM

Most carving trucks come with 50º plates. There is a very good reason for this.

**climbingbubba** · 05-05-2009 11:20 PM

thanks guys, yeah i had some bad info... i had seen on the landyachtz website that paris's were 40 but i think it was a misprint.

so i took everyone's advise (including dan from daddies board shop) and got paris trucks.

holley's would have been awesome but daddies didn't have that as an option.

I ordered

2009 dervish flex 1
black paris 180's
75mm bigzigs 80a limes
daddies board shop bearings
bearing spacers
shock pad for dervish's

hope its fun and carvy

**phil7153** · 05-05-2009 11:22 PM

50*, or i will shoot babies.

**sebastosoulian** · 05-05-2009 11:46 PM

**tinypete** · 05-06-2009 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by sebastosoulian

what's the reason please?

They are quite nice for carving.
My Paris 180's can carve and go fast rather nicely.

**BeebOH** · 05-06-2009 02:33 AM

Originally Posted by sebastosoulian

what's the reason please?

The higher the angle the tighter the turning radius.

**stephen.mhsrider** · 05-06-2009 02:56 AM

the higher the angle, the more turn to lean ratio. A lower degree truck requires you to lean much more to get the same amount of turn. in other words, higher angled trucks are more responsive and are better suited to carving etc

**Rouleau** · 05-06-2009 06:17 AM

Put some venom supercarves in there!!

**tinypete** · 05-06-2009 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by stephen.mhsrider

the higher the angle, the more turn to lean ratio. A lower degree truck requires you to lean much more to get the same amount of turn. in other words, higher angled trucks are more responsive and are better suited to carving etc

Until you get too high. My friend had Holeys on a board it 20ish degree wedging and the 80 degree trucks gave him no leverage. So don't go too high or too low, but in general, a high degree will give more turn.

**bennett** · 05-06-2009 01:56 PM

the best truck angle for carving is 45 degrees

**climbingbubba** · 05-06-2009 03:18 PM

Originally Posted by Rouleau

Put some venom supercarves in there!!

the paris trucks come with the 90a venom bushings. would switching out to softer ones be good for my weight?
i weigh 180. if so which ones would you reccomend?

**alpha234** · 05-06-2009 06:53 PM

go for the bears with the higher angle you will be carving like its nobodys buisness

**Meadowlark** · 05-06-2009 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by bennett

the best truck angle for carving is 45 degrees

Yeah, in my (quite limited) experience, I have ridden 42 and 50 degree Randals, Originals (45* I believe?), and Indy's. The Originals are best for carving but they don't count because the whole design is different. Of the rest, the 42* Randals win (IMO). They don't turn as much but they lean more, and to me carving feels more natural when the board leans a lot. Which is why I don't like Indy's. As turny as they are, they don't lean enough for me.

Does this make sense to anybody else? I could be talking nonsense, because it's very commonly accepted that 50ish degrees is the best for carving.

**sebastosoulian** · 05-10-2009 10:11 PM

thanks for the info y'all. a friend recommended the description that the randal trucks website has right hurr: Randal Skateboard Trucks - General Truck FAQ