orangatang in heat vs durian

**tycheongster** · 03-01-2010 12:01 AM

hey guys,

i'm looking at the in heats and durians (both purple and 83a).

i'm putting this on the Rayne Hellcat with Bear Grizzly 852 trucks.
yea, not the best setup, but i'm experimenting right now and wanted to try out otang wheels.

i mostly commute, but also dh and freeride quite a bit. i'm starting to get into sliding quite a bit too.

which would you pick and why?

**WolfOnWheels** · 03-01-2010 12:08 AM

Durians are round lipped, so they'll break into a slide easier. InHeats are square lipped, so they'll have more grip but you can break them in to be around the same as the durians

**tycheongster** · 03-01-2010 12:42 AM

the in heats are slightly more grippy and carve better right?
so when broken in if they slide like the durians then the in heats would be the better buy right?
what kind of difference does contact patch size make?

**Commiesk8er** · 03-01-2010 12:55 AM

Originally Posted by tycheongster

the in heats are slightly more grippy and carve better right?
so when broken in if they slide like the durians then the in heats would be the better buy right?
what kind of difference does contact patch size make?

I own in heats and a set of stimuli as well (the smaller version of the durian). If you want to do a lot of sliding and aren't into serious dh where you want to stick lines all the time, the durians will be way more fun imo. Supposedly the in heats become smooth to slide, but even after a couple of months of break in time, they still chatter a lot more than the stimulus. Both good wheels, but I think you're in for much more fun right out of the box and more options with the durians. My two cents.

I guess my response to one of your questions is that the in heats will never really slide quite as well as the durians. They will slide well however, kind of a win win really I wouldn't stress too much.

**WolfOnWheels** · 03-01-2010 12:57 AM

Originally Posted by tycheongster

the in heats are slightly more grippy and carve better right?
so when broken in if they slide like the durians then the in heats would be the better buy right?
what kind of difference does contact patch size make?

Smaller contact patch = better slide
Larger contact patch = not as good slide

Someone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong

**Bookworm** · 03-01-2010 01:07 AM

purp durians unless you're pushing your current limits of grip.

**tycheongster** · 03-01-2010 01:19 AM

how will the smaller contact patch affect my normal riding, commuting and some carving?
would you trust the durians for some light DH around 30 mph?

**Bookworm** · 03-01-2010 01:37 AM

Originally Posted by tycheongster

how will the smaller contact patch affect my normal riding, commuting and some carving?
would you trust the durians for some light DH around 30 mph?

0,0,0 and if it's light like most of the roads I ride totally.

if you're not worried about grip now it shouldn't be an issue.

**wardlarson** · 03-01-2010 01:52 AM

just choose one. if you hate them, dont buy them again. if money is an issue get whats cheapest. if its not, get both.

you cant really go wrong with experimenting and figuring out what you like

**keziahlongboards** · 03-01-2010 01:52 AM

orange 4 prez every time. Just saying. they grip like a rockstar when they are new and once they get a good cone to them they are so nice for slides, standup or hand down. I thought when people said that they were good freeride wheels they either weren't good at freeriding or they meant hand down. Seriously, the best orangatang no questions asked. I've gone through a set of stimulus and didn't like them. The small contact patch won't matter, I just don't think the purple formula is as good as the orange or yellow, and you don't want the yellow as an all purpose wheel.

**tycheongster** · 03-01-2010 09:58 AM

what exactly is grip? how would you define it?

what do you mean by push current limits of grip?

**wardlarson** · 03-01-2010 11:47 AM

if ya aint sliding, you be gripping.

**cawlin** · 03-01-2010 11:49 AM

Originally Posted by tycheongster

what exactly is grip? how would you define it?

what do you mean by push current limits of grip?

for real?

doesn't every one define grip the same way? the amount of lateral force applied to make them lose traction?

also, stop making this thread. Use the search function.

**Commiesk8er** · 03-01-2010 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by tycheongster

how will the smaller contact patch affect my normal riding, commuting and some carving?
would you trust the durians for some light DH around 30 mph?

My stimulus 83a (same as the durians you're talking about, just smaller) are on my dh board. I've gone faster than 30 with no issues. I sort of like the security of a smooth sliding wheel at speed: ie-if I need to shutdown, I know I can do it smoothly.

**Fuznubz** · 03-01-2010 05:02 PM

money shouldent be an issue, the in-heats and the durians are like the same price, and the only difference between the durian/stimulus is like 4 bucks, and a slightly bigger wheel

i just went through this delema, but my durians should be here in a few days

**macjakjak** · 03-02-2010 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by wardlarson

just choose one. if you hate them, dont buy them again. if money is an issue get whats cheapest. if its not, get both.

you cant really go wrong with experimenting and figuring out what you like

I agree with wardlarson. Try both. Even though the Durians have a rounder edge and InHeats have a square edge, the Durians are easier. Depends on how you like it.

I have the InHeats and the sliding is perfect already.

**BT-DH** · 03-04-2010 04:52 PM

durians are fun and not much chatter and once broken in very smooth. The inheats were very chattery for me untill they got worn down. I like durians, ive bought stims and durians but not inheats again. i dont ever go over 35 but the durians hold pretty good if youre deck is top mount they hold great like the stims do on my dancer, a dropped deck will be bit drifty in corners with the durians.

to tell you the truth im hooked on s9 wheels now, the bamboo series has amazing grip and such a smooth drift, good roll speed too. and centerset to avoid coning, they stick lines way better than durians and have a very nice drift with pretty good hookup and break. i ordered s9 82a roundlipped race forms to try next.

Anyway durians over inheats. and for what your describing id get the s9's

**fullycustom88** · 03-04-2010 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by tycheongster

i'm looking at the in heats and durians (both purple and 83a).

purple and 83a? purple are 83a... orange are 80a...

with that outta the way, i'd like to recommend the 83a 4prez. theyre closer in diameter to the durians, but they have a wider contact patch that gives you better grip at higher speeds. once you get them broken in they slide like butter. imo the in heats are too big

**WolfOnWheels** · 03-04-2010 05:31 PM

Originally Posted by fullycustom88

purple and 83a? purple are 83a... orange are 80a...

with that outta the way, i'd like to recommend the 83a 4prez. theyre closer in diameter to the durians, but they have a wider contact patch that gives you better grip at higher speeds. once you get them broken in they slide like butter. imo the in heats are too big

The InHeats are the same size as the Durians....

So if the InHeats are too big for you, then so would the Durians.
And the InHeats have a 3mm larger contact patch than the 4Prez = Even better grip with the same smooth slides