Why do loose trucks save lives and what are the cheapest downhill trucks

[dmackanic]

Hey guys i have heard that loose trucks save lives. Could someone explain this idea to me?
Also I have bear grizzlies, but I have not gone over 35 on them. What are the cheapest "downhill trucks"?

[Shiyuchi]

Why do you have to be a part of the system.


MAAAAANN

Also, loose trucks don't save lives, only noobs think that lol

[pete..]

loose trucks can turn and avoid cars/rocks/cliffs, alot of nubs tighten their trucks up to avoid speed wobble and it keeps them from turning and learning how to prevent speed wobble. The cheapest Dh trucks are whatever you find that works. the most popular would probably be randals, bears, or paris set up with the right baseplates, risers, and bushings for the desired feel.

[jman1365]

Hey guys i have heard that loose trucks save lives. Could someone explain this idea to me?
Also I have bear grizzlies, but I have not gone over 35 on them. What are the cheapest "downhill trucks"?

the trucks you already have would be the cheapest downhill trucks, because you already have them

[dmackanic]

Why do you have to be a part of the system.


MAAAAANN

Also, loose trucks don't save lives, only noobs think that lol

Yeah thats what i thought because when i ride loose on my pintail it is definately not as stable. I always thought tight trucks but soft bushings was a better idea than hard bushings with loose trucks

[dmackanic]

the trucks you already have would be the cheapest downhill trucks, because you already have them

words of wisdom. So yeah i just don't want to die

[Kaym]

words of wisdom. So yeah i just don't want to die

Shuffleboard, bro.

[jman1365]

words of wisdom. So yeah i just don't want to die

you don't want to die huh?
maybe you should take up tennis or something then, or if that seems risky checkers is always a lot of fun

[anatharc]

Why do you have to be a part of the system.


MAAAAANN

Also, loose trucks don't save lives, only noobs think that lol

nope loose trucks saved my life.

enter personal story here: blahblahblah....

[keef]

Oh come on guys, this advice could get someone hurt.

DH trucks have a low steering angle, like 45 degrees or lower. There are the heroes out there who claim to have cracked the 100mph barrier on 60 degree trucks on white Khiro bushings set up as lose as possible but it's all bullshit.

If you want a good stable DH set up, go for 45 degree trucks or less, with something like a black JimZ bushing or orange or green Venom barrel. But remember, you should only tighten the Kingpin to get rid of excess play, not to overly stiffen the truck. If you want a stiffer truck go to a harder bushing don't just crank the KP down on soft bushings.

Once over 20 to 30 mph even a 35 deg baseplate truck will turn enough to get around a hairpin bend, and I think the new Smokies go down to even lower base plate angles.

I've seen first hand a guy struggle on 50deg Randalls because he thought that was what everyone used, when the rest of us were on 40 or 35 deg baseplates with hard bushings, that were set up lose.

Lose trucks do save lives, because they still turn when you need them to, but are not unstable.

[jman1365]

Oh come on guys, this advice could get someone hurt.

DH trucks have a low steering angle, like 45 degrees or lower. There are the heroes out there who claim to have cracked the 100mph barrier on 60 degree trucks on white Khiro bushings set up as lose as possible but it's all bullshit.

If you want a good stable DH set up, go for 45 degree trucks or less, with something like a black JimZ bushing or orange or green Venom barrel. But remember, you should only tighten the Kingpin to get rid of excess play, not to overly stiffen the truck. If you want a stiffer truck go to a harder bushing don't just crank the KP down on soft bushings.

Once over 20 to 30 mph even a 35 deg baseplate truck will turn enough to get around a hairpin bend, and I think the new Smokies go down to even lower base plate angles.

I've seen first hand a guy struggle on 50deg Randalls because he thought that was what everyone used, when the rest of us were on 40 or 35 deg baseplates with hard bushings, that were set up lose.

Lose trucks do save lives, because they still turn when you need them to, but are not unstable.

you are behind the times my friend, the majority of riders no longer run 35 degree trucks

[anatharc]

Oh come on guys, this advice could get someone hurt.

DH trucks have a low steering angle, like 45 degrees or lower. There are the heroes out there who claim to have cracked the 100mph barrier on 60 degree trucks on white Khiro bushings set up as lose as possible but it's all bullshit.

If you want a good stable DH set up, go for 45 degree trucks or less, with something like a black JimZ bushing or orange or green Venom barrel. But remember, you should only tighten the Kingpin to get rid of excess play, not to overly stiffen the truck. If you want a stiffer truck go to a harder bushing don't just crank the KP down on soft bushings.

Once over 20 to 30 mph even a 35 deg baseplate truck will turn enough to get around a hairpin bend, and I think the new Smokies go down to even lower base plate angles.

I've seen first hand a guy struggle on 50deg Randalls because he thought that was what everyone used, when the rest of us were on 40 or 35 deg baseplates with hard bushings, that were set up lose.

Lose trucks do save lives, because they still turn when you need them to, but are not unstable.

all personal preferance pumpkin.
I like my 50 randals just fine for speeds over 35mph. (42mph is the fastest ive been clocked at, stock randal bushings too). IMO bushings make more of a difference than truck angle.

[snozzboarder55]

If you want a good stable DH set up, go for comfortable degree trucks , with the right bushings for you read:comfortable/stable

fixed it up right

[xjweezyx]

if you mean by "down hill trucks" cnc machined trucks you can get randal comps for a little under 240 if you dont get the titanium kingpin. otherwise you have "downhill trucks". get some nicer dh bushings if you need to, flip the hanger and youll be set. people say loose trucks save lives because you can avoid cars and such.

[keef]

you are behind the times my friend, the majority of riders no longer run 35 degree trucks

Maybe, but Randall still make them, and LBL for one still has them as standard on the Tarpon. I'd rather be stable than twitchy anyday, and if that means you have bigger balls than me so be it!!

[snozzboarder55]

Maybe, but Randall still make them, and LBL for one still has them as standard on the Tarpon. I'd rather be stable than twitchy anyday, and if that means you have bigger balls than me so be it!!

riders should make the equipment stable, not the other way around.

[Shiyuchi]

When it comes to turning ability. You should keep the truck tightness the same, but change the bushings. All trucks should be the tightness.

[urbanasultvehicleuav]

Maybe, but Randall still make them, and LBL for one still has them as standard on the Tarpon. I'd rather be stable than twitchy anyday, and if that means you have bigger balls than me so be it!!

you say atable and twitchy i say turny and comfrotable

i run 50 degrees plates on my dh set up i used to run 35s but it felt like your just turning, not much rider to truck love going on there bushings make all the difference

[jman1365]

Maybe, but Randall still make them, and LBL for one still has them as standard on the Tarpon. I'd rather be stable than twitchy anyday, and if that means you have bigger balls than me so be it!!

all the trucks I have ever owned have never been stable, I am stable with the trucks I ride
and they aren't twitchy either

[keef]

riders should make the equipment stable, not the other way around.

Indeed, but there comes a point at which a riders natural ability is overtaken by velocity and gradient, which is not unlike the event horizon of a black hole. Once passed, there is #### all you can do to regain control.
I like to make sure that point is as far up the road as possible.

I just don't see the point of having a setup that will turn on a dime at 10mph, when unless I'm traveling at 10mph, that turning circle is NEVER going to be used.