your dh setup

[rodgon]

two boards that are seemingly the same, yet so much different.

Legendary smoothdrop:
Shorter then the demonseed, but just as solid. Gives you a smaller drop so it gives a little more traction in runs. Im 5,11 and find the stance perfect for me, enough room to fully tuck and the drop provides that handy back foot placement i love.
smaller wheelbase makes it also more nimble and the finish on it is amazing. i wouldnt even touch mine with my graphics.. thats how pretty it looks hahaha even after being scratched up a little.

as opposed to the demonseed, that i found to be huge, would have to have a slighlty wider stance than i would want with it. it is lower and way heavier.

both of them are DH monsters, but the Smoothdrop and the demonseed are not realky the same shape. it all comes down to preference, so i cant say one is a copy of the other.

[Ferrarimk13]

it comes down majorly to how wide your stance is, because both are similar, i would just look out for the length. The demonseed has a huge platform so if you like having a lot of room, go for that, otherwise the Smoothdrop has plenty of room and nice leverage if you top mount it.

[streetheap]

So what's the consensus on the new Rayne concave?
I haven't heard anyone say it sucks, or they like the tub/tube better....
Thought there would be some haters. Maybe there is, I just haven't seen any posts. But, I haven't really been looking either.
Sweet setup BTW.

[wooden]

So what's the consensus on the new Rayne concave?
I haven't heard anyone say it sucks, or they like the tub/tube better....
Thought there would be some haters. Maybe there is, I just haven't seen any posts. But, I haven't really been looking either.
Sweet setup BTW.

I had the 09 Hellcat for a couple months and I liked the W cave at first, but it got annoying. I wish it were a little less harsh, it's really helpful on toeside corners but in heelsides and freeriding it hurts my feet. If the W was just a little shorter and flattened out a little more at the very back, it would be a lot more comfortable.

Sold it to a friend who loves it, and skate with another guy who has two.

[stuff]

[streetheap]

I had the 09 Hellcat for a couple months and I liked the W cave at first, but it got annoying. I wish it were a little less harsh, it's really helpful on toeside corners but in heelsides and freeriding it hurts my feet. If the W was just a little shorter and flattened out a little more at the very back, it would be a lot more comfortable.

Sold it to a friend who loves it, and skate with another guy who has two.

So it's pretty severe, huh?
Interesting....I need to see it in person, I guess.
thanks Wood

oh...my...that Sayshun is sweet. More pics!

[guitarchick2182]

I had the 09 Hellcat for a couple months and I liked the W cave at first, but it got annoying. I wish it were a little less harsh, it's really helpful on toeside corners but in heelsides and freeriding it hurts my feet. If the W was just a little shorter and flattened out a little more at the very back, it would be a lot more comfortable.

Sold it to a friend who loves it, and skate with another guy who has two.

now that i think about it i remember the first few days riding it my feet did feel kinda sore but i got used to it. the concave is awesome i think its just right in fact i wouldnt mind a bit more

[partninjas]

I like it. My back foot feels locked into a little pocket while tucked. Really grips for standys. You feel the W when you're just standing doing nothing but when you're int he moment you just feel the extra grip.

[William Richards]

09 Hellcat ( Clear grip! )
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[Belak4life]

So it's pretty severe, huh?
Interesting....I need to see it in person, I guess.
thanks Wood

oh...my...that Sayshun is sweet. More pics!

nah chip's just a wuss

i think the back is pretty nice I just wished they added more concave on the nose for both the hellcat and avenger. The cave just seems to stop at the nose.

[streetheap]

nah chip's just a wuss

i think the back is pretty nice I just wished they added more concave on the nose for both the hellcat and avenger. The cave just seems to stop at the nose.

Why...does it stop there?
Hm. I need to see one. Hey belaK, are you coming to the Tri-Cities race? Link is in my sig.

[riley_bombs]

cuz theres no reason to have it under your front foot for dh. the only reason its in the back is for a turning pocket for both goffy and regular riders

[Belak4life]

Why...does it stop there?
Hm. I need to see one. Hey belaK, are you coming to the Tri-Cities race? Link is in my sig.

I would but I need to save my pennies for mary.

[circle]

So it's pretty severe, huh?
Interesting....I need to see it in person, I guess.
thanks Wood

oh...my...that Sayshun is sweet. More pics!

IMO the W is just a matter of riding the deck for an hour and getting used to it.

I push mongo, so i am always on the W. I have never been sore from riding it and
honestly, i dont even notice it anymore.

If you dont like it, you could get a vibrating sander and go to town on the W, making it less aggressive if its that big of a deal

[Shimotakimas]

I just came in to say that a bamboo/cf/fiberglass Rayne Avenger is noticably HEAVIER than a maple Kebbek Caften (Yes, it was a surprise to me as well). Upon this discovery, I checked with boxcar who has owned both and he too, agrees that the avenger is without a doubt, heavier.

And the setup Im running is avenger with touhous and 66mm lime zigs.

[streetheap]

cuz theres no reason to have it under your front foot for dh. the only reason its in the back is for a turning pocket for both goffy and regular riders

Hm.
Might be the reason Graham did it, but there's also more to W concave than giving your back foot a place to lock in/snooze.

[byang]

I just came in to say that a bamboo/cf/fiberglass Rayne Avenger is noticably HEAVIER than a maple Kebbek Caften (Yes, it was a surprise to me as well). Upon this discovery, I checked with boxcar who has owned both and he too, agrees that the avenger is without a doubt, heavier.

And the setup Im running is avenger with touhous and 66mm lime zigs.

lolwut. thats the deelite avenger youre talking about? the caften is a crazy tank and pretty darn heavy too.. man. raynes got some work to do..

[CasterTown]

If you dont like it, you could get a vibrating sander and go to town on the W, making it less aggressive if its that big of a deal

That would be a disaster since the w is pressed into the deck. Its no thicker where the dome is so you would just be compromising strength.

[Shimotakimas]

lolwut. thats the deelite avenger youre talking about? the caften is a crazy tank and pretty darn heavy too.. man. raynes got some work to do..

No, a regular early 09, pre-W-concave avenger with the carbon stringers. And the avenger is the real tank in comparison to the kebbek.

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