Teutonia 2007

[JBH]

Congratulations, Kevin. I only know you through your online posts (and rep) and a couple of PMs, but I'm stoked for you. Great job.

So when you get ready to run a hill like this for the first time, what do you do to prepare yourself? For example, the first run ever, and first run of the day on subsequent days?

How many runs would you say you took altogether, both practice and comp?

[Wabe]

How were you recieved by the brazilian crowd Kevin? Were they stoked or was their so hard feelings? I guess I know you the same way that JBH does except that at saw you at maryhill which was pretty sweet.

How does Teutonia compare to maryhill skill wise? Is maryhill more technical and Teutonia more about straight speed?

[bpz]

Maryhill isn't "technical" by any means... just long and windy. Not fast, not steep, and you don't need to put a hand down.

[SpeedFiend]

i still think about the fact that you went down there and won this race on a daily basis. way to man up kevin.

[.pete]

check this video made by toni skaters:

http://www.skaters.com.br/modules/Do...tonia_2007.wmv

[SgtSparkles]

Maryhill isn't "technical" by any means... just long and windy. Not fast, not steep, and you don't need to put a hand down.

is that a joke, put a hand down.

[*SWEET*]

is that a joke, put a hand down.

Well there is one corner in which you need to put a hand down but that's it... and no Maryhill is not fast and not very technical...
It's a leg killer and lots of fun though

[Skator]

I can't get at the video, if soemone has it put it up on youtube

[ChrisChaput]

Maryhill isn't "technical" by any means... just long and windy. Not fast, not steep, and you don't need to put a hand down.

I tend to define a hill as being "technical" if you can't run it without having to brake at least once. And "technically" speaking, Maryhill isn't technical by that definition. But I hate to say that because it takes an incredible amount of technique to WIN at Maryhill, or even to make the course with big tailwinds. When the tailwinds are big (and they can be HUGE), the course has some very fast sections and some of the top riders have slid off the road, even when putting a hand down.

With headwinds, it can be a nice long smooth fun hill. But when the winds change, Mary is a whole other experience.

[*SWEET*]

I tend to define a hill as being "technical" if you can't run it without having to brake at least once. And "technically" speaking, Maryhill isn't technical by that definition. But I hate to say that because it takes an incredible amount of technique to WIN at Maryhill, or even to make the course with big tailwinds. When the tailwinds are big (and they can be HUGE), the course has some very fast sections and some of the top riders have slid off the road, even when putting a hand down.

With headwinds, it can be a nice long smooth fun hill. But when the winds change, Mary is a whole other experience.

Agreed on that (not often I do with you hey )
The racing technics needed on such a long road are really big to finish first... the physical conditions to ride it is also way higher than any 10km french road with 25 switchbacks too

[Belak4life]

Its amazing how wind is such a big factor for us at speeds. There was tailwind at my local hill and it felt totally different.

[SpeedFiend]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

yeah, like when i stand to airbrake and the wind pushes me faster.
for me 35 with light wind is cake
but 40 with a tailwind is when i have to start thinking a few moves ahead.

[D.T.]

i feel like i need to say something, maybe i'm pissed at myself for breaking my ankle and not being able to ride tonight. but some of the things i see seem wrong to me.

its the first time in the past 5 years i havent been able to ride an annual tuscany run. so i have been thinking alot about the past few weeks of riding and reading stories and post on this site, ncdsa and silverfist and coast and i need to speak on one subject,

after watching home video and internet footage and speaking with many of the riders that rode and raced Teutonia. a lot of people sure couldnt wait to hear the speed and quickly compare it to rist. so much of the s#@! i read made me sick!

what the f#@!, i cant believe all the crap spewing out of bandwagon hopping homos, i mean really. the teutonia race got hardly any of the respect it deserves.

70 mph on a rough, patchy narrow road for a race is epic, f#@!ing all time! my hats off to all the competitors, riders, and locals that raced and call that wicked road home. all time!

seriouslly the cocksucking and backrubbing i saw smelled like rotten fish, just follow your nose. rist, smist. anyone can go fast there. it is butter and smooth, and a great hill.

I really enjoyed riding with its locals and cant wait to go back, but its got nothing on teutonia from what little i have seen.

Teutonia takes big mountain man balls to ride. Men like Rick and Kevin know that for sure. It is faster, f#@! i know we have faster hills in california, too. Choke guys been riding rist well over a year without talking. We have hills here too. big deal.

i guess i am rambling on, but i wanted to make a point on what i feel is close to heart.

just simple respect.



on another note,
i would love to see an event on rist, but hope deffered makes the heart sick. the coss permits were denied a week before teutonia even began. why talk like its in the works just to say its not. oh well. i am a little boy who knows little about stamp collecting. i would love to see a race on gmr too.

sorry if i sound like a whiny bitch, but for f#@!s sake it looked to me like there were all these kids with little needles behind there back just lerking, waiting for the big teutonia bubble to come along, and then they all jumped at it like there was some kind of reward for popping it!

i just want to make another bubble cause to me, the organizers and racers deserve it.

congrats moutainmen, ride proud, ride with a smile, ride with your head held high!

shoots!!!

[doxastic]

i feel like i need to say something, maybe i'm pissed at myself for breaking my ankle and not being able to ride tonight. but some of the things i see seem wrong to me.

its the first time in the past 5 years i havent been able to ride an annual tuscany run. so i have been thinking alot about the past few weeks of riding and reading stories and post on this site, ncdsa and silverfist and coast and i need to speak on one subject,

after watching home video and internet footage and speaking with many of the riders that rode and raced Teutonia. a lot of people sure couldnt wait to hear the speed and quickly compare it to rist. so much of the s#@! i read made me sick!

what the f#@!, i cant believe all the crap spewing out of bandwagon hopping homos, i mean really. the teutonia race got hardly any of the respect it deserves.

70 mph on a rough, patchy narrow road for a race is epic, f#@!ing all time! my hats off to all the competitors, riders, and locals that raced and call that wicked road home. all time!

seriouslly the cocksucking and backrubbing i saw smelled like rotten fish, just follow your nose. rist, smist. anyone can go fast there. it is butter and smooth, and a great hill.

I really enjoyed riding with its locals and cant wait to go back, but its got nothing on teutonia from what little i have seen.

Teutonia takes big mountain man balls to ride. Men like Rick and Kevin know that for sure. It is faster, f#@! i know we have faster hills in california, too. Choke guys been riding rist well over a year without talking. We have hills here too. big deal.

i guess i am rambling on, but i wanted to make a point on what i feel is close to heart.

just simple respect.



on another note,
i would love to see an event on rist, but hope deffered makes the heart sick. the coss permits were denied a week before teutonia even began. why talk like its in the works just to say its not. oh well. i am a little boy who knows little about stamp collecting. i would love to see a race on gmr too.

sorry if i sound like a whiny bitch, but for f#@!s sake it looked to me like there were all these kids with little needles behind there back just lerking, waiting for the big teutonia bubble to come along, and then they all jumped at it like there was some kind of reward for popping it!

i just want to make another bubble cause to me, the organizers and racers deserve it.

congrats moutainmen, ride proud, ride with a smile, ride with your head held high!

shoots!!!

A little respect??? Sounds like you got a long years worth of history blowing out your...... Rist is faster. Brazil is harder. Whatever dude. It doesn't need to turn into Jesus's rebirth. But I didn't read everything you had to say because I'm drunk

[Skator]

why would you reply to something you didn't read you jacka$$,

DT says it straight, records are lame anyway, riding with people from foreign places is what it's all about

[ChrisChaput]

why would you reply to something you didn't read you jacka$$,

DT says it straight, records are lame anyway, riding with people from foreign places is what it's all about

Why are records lame? I think that they're cool. Hardwick's record of 62.55mph has been broken hundreds of times, just never when big brother (GWR) has been looking. I think that it's about time that a truer and more respectable speed of over 70mph be put in the books. It gives us a goal to reach, and tells everyone (non-skaters included) that we ride OVER 70MPH ON FRIGGIN' SKATEBOARD! I'll let everyone else cry about what's fair, who is the "real" record holder, who is more deserving, or how and where the record is attempted and by whom. If you step on a board and bomb a hill at over 70mph and you did whatever it took to get it timed accurately and you managed to document it - that's cool no matter how you slice it.

I love that Harry Egger and other speed skiers are doing over 150mph on a snow covered mountain. That's awesome. More power to him. It blows my mind that you can ski faster than the average freefall from an airplane. Records are cool. I love vinyl...

[K-Rimes]

Teutonia scares me. Rist does not. You can die at both places, easy, but Teutonia makes it quite a bit easier to do so. I think that hill is the ultimate in scary... I only pinned it full bore for two or three runs (when I thought it really counted, a practice run, and a go for it run) and all those runs I thought it might be over in a hurry... That hill will eat you up and spit you out as demonstrated by Thiago who crashed behind me and destroyed his helmet, and Douglas who crashed behind me in the finals, and a TON of others who are skilled riders. I really mean it when I say it... This hill is danger. In hill form.

[doxastic]

why would you reply to something you didn't read you jacka$$,

DT says it straight, records are lame anyway, riding with people from foreign places is what it's all about

I didn't read all of it cuz 1) drunk, 2) t'was a long post and 3) 90% of his babbling rant reminds me of the pointless comment made by you. Hence, there was no point continuing. Sorry DT, you're a cool Kat. But referring to anyone as a "bandwagon hoping homo" is where I stop caring about what you have to say.

[D.T.]

I should have been more clear. My post has nothing to do with records.

I got my approval from GWR 2 days before the event started but due to lack of money I did not go. I would have loved to have gone. My post is not sour grapes and I even sent emails to Douglas and congradulated him. I hope they approve it. There is room for anybody that earns it to be a record holder.

I've been trying to go to brasil since last september to race, this was before any talks of records. i love racing it is fun. I have a huge amount of respect for Kevin and everyone else at this race. Meatballs pass at the bottom was textbook, Dave and Judtith have epic footage of this! The final was nuts too!

I agree with Chris, records are made to be broken. Just because I was close to Gary doesnt mean i think the record should die with his death.

I too am inspired by Harry Egger and flight and boat racing, etc. i love physics and i love applying them to skateboards cause that is in my realm of afforadability. I have driven Ferrari Challenge cars on closed tracks but i cant afford hundreds of thousands of dollars to race and own them. Besides most of the auto racing world is filled with rich assholes (i rebuilt many of their engines in my little experience) who think they're #### doesnt smell. Where the skaters have a very real and impressive since of family and aloha.

I was not talking down to the rist boys either, their hill is very fun, and maybe only 30 or so riders in North America will ever want to ride a skateboard on a hill that fast. I am very thankful for their aloha in sharing it with us when we were up there a week before teutonia. Rist is a blast to ride! It is dangerous like Kevin said. Its not Teutonia.


For the record, I am probably more tolerant of people and their choices in the land of tangible reality. Anyone that has met me at races knows I would give the shirt off my back to help others out. I do my best to spread the aloha spirit with those i meet face to face. I have friends that are gay (i live in Silverlake or silverfake, etc land of dreamy-eyed actors, homos, hipsters, and dregs), big deal, they know i dont agree with their lifestyle, but i dont let that stop our friendship nor do i rub their faces in it except when they deserve it. They have read my posts and find them funny. Most queers like other people hate two faced bull ####.

I am not wishy washy or luke warm on this, I speak my mind, often i am wrong. but i admit it and sincerely apologise instead of making excuses and being all pc. that is lame.

there's alot of people that will go with the flow even if its purposely set out to be incorrect for the sake of disinformation. these people dont realize because they are locked into tunnel vision. its emotionally and physically easier to go with the flow. its human nature.(ref.Asch)

there's certain people that know who they are and if they truly want to settle it then i will come to them face to face. this has nothing to do with violence, rather having the respect to look someone in the eye.

internet pisses me off sometimes because its easy for people to hide behind a keyboard in flatland and talk #### then not own up to it in the real world in spaceland (ref. Abbot). spineless guppies. if you feel like i am talking to you then maybe you should look yourself in the eyes, in front of a mirror.

[D.T.]

There is power in words. Strong words separate the wheat from the chaff without having to write a novel. They get to the point and tie in personal emotion. It is the reader's maturity, sensitivety, history, and intelligence that fill in whats not said.

I guess some people rather keep themselves burried in a Where's Waldo book and pretend everything will work itself out or you can always try clicking your heels together three times, Dorothy.