CNC'd and Proformance DH Trucks

[EFG]

After making the master list of beginner boards, trucks, and wheels I realized that I didn't know that much about high-end DH trucks and getting the info on them is sketchy at best so I thought I would make another master list. Hopefully it will be stickied as well.

Maguns
---Angle: 45° (50° on the older runs)
---Bolt Pattern: Other
---Axle Size: 8mm
---Axle Width: 200mm
---Replaceable Axle: Yes
---Split Axle: Yes
---Axle Material: Tempered High Grade Steel
---Hanger Width: ???
---Hanger Material: Alloy
---Base Plate Material: Alloy
---Pivot: Standard
---Pivot Cup: Nylon Tubing
---Kingpin Hole: Standard
---Stock Bushings: Tracker Freestyle Bushings (Hardish)
---Color ways: Gold
---Flip-able: ???
---Other: ???

JimZ Hangers
---Axle Size: 8mm Heat Treated/10mm Heat Treated/10mm Non-Heat Treated
---Axle Width: 174mm/200mm
---Replaceable Axle: Yes
---Split Axle: No
---Axle Material: Heat Treated Steel/Non-Heat Treated Steel
---Hanger Width: 170mm
---Hanger Material: Alloy
---Pivot: Standard
---Kingpin Hole: Spherical
---Stock Bushings: JimZ White (82.5a)/JimZ Black (85a)
---Color ways: Silver/Black
---Flip-able: Yes
---Other: ???

JimZ Base Plates
---Angle: 35°
---Bolt Pattern: Old School
---Base Plate Material: Alloy
---Pivot Cup: Urethane
---Color ways: Silver
---Other: Sit Fairly High

Pogo Base Plates
---Angle: 36°/42°/48°
---Bolt Pattern: Old School/New School
---Base Plate Material: Alloy
---Pivot Cup: Urethane
---Color ways: Pogo
---Other: Requires Routing, 31mm Lower Due to Design, Pivot Cups Must Be Pressed in by Vice

Kahalanis
---Angle: 45°
---Bolt Pattern: Old School/New School
---Axle Size: 8mm
---Axle Width: 204mm
---Replaceable Axle: ???
---Split Axle: No
---Axle Material: Steel
---Hanger Width: ???
---Hanger Material: Alloy
---Base Plate Material: Alloy
---Pivot: Standard
---Pivot Cup: Khiro Replacment
---Kingpin Hole: Standard
---Stock Bushings: Blue (85a) / Red (90a) Khiro Barrels
---Color ways: Silver
---Flip-able: ???
---Other: Finish is Easily Scratched

Bear Smokies
---Angle: 40°
---Bolt Pattern: Old School/New School
---Axle Size: 10mm
---Axle Width: 174mm/190mm
---Replaceable Axle: ???
---Split Axle: Yes
---Axle Material: ???
---Hanger Width: ???
---Hanger Material: Alloy
---Base Plate Material: Alloy
---Pivot: ???
---Pivot Cup: Spherical
---Kingpin Hole: Spherical
---Stock Bushings: JimZ White (82.5a)/JimZ Black (85a)
---Color ways: Silver
---Flip-able:
---Other: ???

Randal Comp II
---Angle: 28*/35*/50°/60°
---Bolt Pattern: Old School
---Axle Size: 8mm
---Axle Width: ???
---Replaceable Axle: Yes
---Split Axle: No
---Axle Material: Hardened Steel Alloy
---Hanger Width: 170mm/205mm
---Hanger Material: Cast Aluminum
---Base Plate Material: Cast Aluminum
---Pivot: Standard
---Pivot Cup: Urethane
---Kingpin Hole: Standard
---Stock Bushings: Randal Black or Blue
---Color ways: Grey
---Flip-able: ???
---Other: Has Floating Axle, Luge Requires 8 Extra Bearings/Comp II Requires 4

Radikal Dragons Talon
---Angle: 35°/45°/55°
---Bolt Pattern: New School???
---Axle Size: 8mm
---Axle Width: 171.7mm/179.05mm/184.4mm/193.29mm/197.1mm/209.8
---Replaceable Axle: Yes
---Split Axle: Yes
---Axle Material: Titanium
---Hanger Width: 159mm
---Hanger Material: Aircraft Billet Aluminum
---Base Plate Material: Aircraft Billet Aluminum
---Pivot: Standard
---Pivot Cup: Urethane/Spherical
---Kingpin Hole: Standard/Spherical
---Stock Bushings: Radikal???
---Color ways: Black/Red/Violet/Silver/Custom
---Flip-able: ???
---Other: ???

Confederates
---Angle: 30°/35°/45°
---Bolt Pattern: Custom
---Axle Size: 8mm/10mm
---Axle Width: Custom
---Replaceable Axle: Yes
---Split Axle: Yes/No
---Axle Material: Grade 10.9 Steel
---Hanger Width:180mm/200mm
---Hanger Material: 6061 Aluminum
---Base Plate Material: 6061 Aluminum
---Pivot: Standard
---Pivot Cup: Nylon Tubing
---Kingpin Hole: Standard
---Stock Bushings: N/A
---Color ways: Clear Coat Silver
---Flip-able: Yes
---Other: Has 2 Kingpin Holes, Over-Built For Strength


Template
---Angle:
---Bolt Pattern:
---Axle Size:
---Axle Width:
---Replaceable Axle:
---Split Axle:
---Axle Material:
---Hanger Width:
---Hanger Material:
---Base Plate Material:
---Pivot:
---Pivot Cup:
---Kingpin Hole:
---Stock Bushings:
---Color ways:
---Flip-able:
---Other:


I know I have left out a lot of info on these trucks as well as a lot of trucks. If you have any info to fill in the blanks, or have these trucks I would really appreciate your info on them and if you could take some measurements (such as hanger width). Please use the template above to fill in/correct any info and I will edit or have it edited accordingly.

[K-Rimes]

Maguns
---Angle: 45° (50° on the older runs)
---Bolt Pattern: Other
---Axle Size: 8mm
---Axle Width: 200mm
---Replaceable Axle: Yes
---Split Axle: Yes
---Axle Material: High Grade Steel, tempered
---Hanger Width: ???
---Hanger Material: Alloy
---Base Plate Material: Alloy
---Pivot: Standard
---Pivot Cup: Nylon Tubing
---Kingpin Hole: Standard
---Stock Bushings: Tracker Freestyle Bushings (hardish)
---Color ways: Gold
---Flip-able:
---Other: ???

JimZ hangers have either heat treated steel axles, or regular steel axles and have an old school bolt pattern.

Smokies have a replaceable axle, but it is very difficult to do without the proper tools. They also have a small, steel pivot that replaced the older aluminum one that was only on the first run of trucks and have also replaced the pivot spherical with a steel, rather than plastic bearing.

[karrot]

Originally Posted by EFG

Kahalanis
---Angle: 45°
---Bolt Pattern: Old School/New School
---Axle Size: 8mm
---Axle Width: ???
---Replaceable Axle: ???
---Split Axle: no
---Axle Material: steel
---Hanger Width: 204mm
---Hanger Material: Alloy
---Base Plate Material: Alloy
---Pivot: Standard
---Pivot Cup: khiro
---Kingpin Hole: Standard
---Stock Bushings: Blue / Red Khiro Barrels
---Color ways: Silver
---Flip-able:
---Other: Finish is Easily Scratche

Randal Comp II / Luge
---Angle: 28*/35*/50°/60°
---Bolt Pattern: Old School
---Axle Size: 8mm
---Axle Width: ???
---Replaceable Axle: Yes
---Split Axle: No
---Axle Material: Hardened Steel Alloy
---Hanger Width: 170mm/205mm
---Hanger Material: Cast Aluminum
---Base Plate Material: Cast Aluminum
---Pivot: Standard
---Pivot Cup: Urethane
---Kingpin Hole: Standard
---Stock Bushings: Randal Black or Blue
---Color ways: Grey
---Flip-able:
---Other: Has Floating Axle, Luge Requires 8 Extra Bearings/ comp II requires 4

some stuff changed

[longskatehawaii]

Originally Posted by karrot

some stuff changed

what about confederates? karrot don't you have some? add those

[karrot]

Confederates
---Angle:45*/35*/30*?
---Bolt Pattern:everything
---Axle Size: whatever you want
---Axle Width:
---Replaceable Axle: yes
---Split Axle: if you want it to be
---Axle Material: grade 10.9 steel
---Hanger Width:180/200
---Hanger Material: 6061 alluminm
---Base Plate Material:6061 alluminum
---Pivot: standard
---Pivot Cup: mylon tubing
---Kingpin Hole: 2
---Stock Bushings: none
---Color ways: clear coat
---Flip-able: you can flip them...
---Other: best dh trucks ever

[IvanTheTerrible]

JimZ are old school.

[Dash]

What were the first real available precision trucks?

Available meaning anyone could buy some...not some guys home made one offs.

[rp1313]

Radikal Dragons Talon
---Angle: 35°/45°/55°
---Bolt Pattern: Old School
---Axle Size: 8mm/(10mm coming soon)
---Axle Width: 171.7mm/179.05mm/184.4mm/193.29mm/197.1mm/209.8
---Replaceable Axle: Yes
---Split Axle: Yes
---Axle Material: Steel
---Hanger Width: 159mm
---Hanger Material: Aircraft Billet Aluminum
---Base Plate Material: Aircraft Billet Aluminum
---Pivot: Standard
---Pivot Cup: Urethane/Spherical
---Kingpin Hole: Standard/Spherical
---Stock Bushings: Radikal
---Color ways: Black/Red/Blue/Violet/Silver/Custom
---Flip-able: No need
---Other: ???

[K-Rimes]

I believe the Maguns were the first true precision truck available first. They were a little bit ahead of JimZ's. The Randal line (floaters) aren't CNC, so I wouldn't call them precision.

[Blub]

The JimZ Bushings in the smokies are the white and black different, if thats the case the big bushing list is wrong.

[savage2424]

so i got a hellcat for christmas, and i was wondering, can i drop smokies through?

[Dash]

Originally Posted by K-Rimes

I believe the Maguns were the first true precision truck available first. They were a little bit ahead of JimZ's. The Randal line (floaters) aren't CNC, so I wouldn't call them precision.

I would have guessed JimZ's. Didn't even think of Maguns.

I ordered JimZ's. Pretty stoked.

[IvanTheTerrible]

Originally Posted by Dash

I would have guessed JimZ's. Didn't even think of Maguns.

I ordered JimZ's. Pretty stoked.

Be stoked, cornering will never be the same. Let alone your ride.

[SteveC]

Originally Posted by Blub

The JimZ Bushings in the smokies are the white and black different, if thats the case the big bushing list is wrong.

JimZ have been produced 80a 82.5a and 85a.

I think all duro's have been poured in both colors too. so color in not necessarily an indicator of duro'.

If you read this Jim, white gray black.

[EFG]

As far as JimZ bushings I was going by his site: REPLACEMENT PARTS

Can anyone say if 204mm is the hanger width or the axle width for Kahalanis?

[EFG]

Originally Posted by savage2424

so i got a hellcat for christmas, and i was wondering, can i drop smokies through?

I was thinking of getting some Smokies for a Smoothcut. Can anyone give their opinion on dropping-thru Smokies? Are they best top mounted? Will there be clearance issues because of their low ride height?

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by EFG

I was thinking of getting some Smokies for a Smoothcut. Can anyone give their opinion on dropping-thru Smokies? Are they best top mounted? Will there be clearance issues because of their low ride height?

smokies work fine on a hellcat

[worldridr768]

Kahalanis are split axle, but the axles are not in line with the kingpin.

[SgtSparkles]

jimz's also come in black, and when you flip them, it doesn't actualy do anything.
as of now, jimzbushings white is 82a and black is 85, acording to jim

[T.V.A.R.]

For the Record, Radikals are drilled old school and they do come with radikal bushings.

Do you guys think this thread should be a sticky? If yes, then it shall be so!