thoughts on d-lite and other carbon fibers

[Basch]

o and also other carbon fiber dropthus are made?

CLB, Wefunk, Airflow

[HerBDerb]

CLB, Wefunk, Airflow

Well, CLB disappeared, and Wefunk is on hiatus while he's working on an F1 team (Toyota?) .

[Greazy_Fox]

so are there any others besides th de-lite?
and where is this airflow one your talking about?

[LFPLongboarder]

Can you get an CF Ian Comishin? like custom? lol jw

[Greazy_Fox]

a little off subject but is there anywhere that still has the demonseed in stock?

[jaxxstatic]

Can you get an CF Ian Comishin? like custom? lol jw

From what I've heard, Ian only likes to work with wood. I even emailed him a few times about a custom CF Revenger, but he never replied, so I assume what I heard was true.

[SpeedFiend]

i like the motion DH as well

[jshalvorsen]

I see no real need for a carbon board no matter what level you race on(or don't race). I enjoy the hell out of my CLB foamie, but do I really need it? Probably not. And I'm sure K-Rimes would ride equally good on a wood version of his board.

Mr. World Champ Erik Lundberg rode a CF Kahalani board at the start of the season, then changed to the Rogers Bros topmount(aluminium, heavy as hell), and now he's on an all-wood S9 raceboard(if I'm not mistaken)

What I find better about CF boards is that they are more comfortable to carry up the hill etc. But once you go carbon you are much more careful about your board, I sometimes wish I had a wood version aswell as my foamcore to trash around on.

[boardingkaos]

as far as light vs heavier boards ive always wondered this:

On a technical course wouldnt you rather have a light board to get you throught the corners the easiest and accelerate the best in a short distance? a course like maryhill

And on a perfectly straight course when speed is the goal with the highest speed being the goal wouldnt you want a heavy board that can build up more momentum? something like bainbridge with a huge straight.

all of the above kind of just fell out of my face so dont judge me from anything stupid i wrote.

Thoughts?

[hexagon5un]

as far as light vs heavier boards ive always wondered this:

On a technical course wouldnt you rather have a light board to get you throught the corners the easiest and accelerate the best in a short distance? a course like maryhill

And on a perfectly straight course when speed is the goal with the highest speed being the goal wouldnt you want a heavy board that can build up more momentum? something like bainbridge with a huge straight.

all of the above kind of just fell out of my face so dont judge me from anything stupid i wrote.

Thoughts?

My thoughts? I weigh 175-180 lbs in leathers and helmet. If I drink a pint of Gatorade and eat a lunch, I add about 2 lbs. If I go from wood to carbon board, I shave maybe 3.5 lbs. They're about the same. Total mass is all that should really matter for race times, and 3 lbs out of 180 just isn't that important.

However, CF boards can be torsionally stiffer and more responsive-feeling. They probably feel light and fun to ride on. I'd love to have one in my quiver, if at least just for variety. Maybe someday I'll pony up.

[wilder]

well id love to have that lightness and easy sliding thats why i love my dervish. i know i love light boards already id still love to try a carbon fiber speed board but lack the connections to try one anyone in the northwest washington have one? well the only thing that keeps me in there on the price is i also surf and snowboard and needless to say those things cost more than most longboards so the carbon fiber boards are an option so im very interested in them. my skills might not back one up quite yet but hey they will someday.

Get a hold of Brandon (AKA Birdman) I know he has a Carbon fibre foamcore chicago deck. There are a couple other skaters on NWLB that have them as well, Like Dennis's Foamcore Landyachtz topmount and his carbon avenger (not the d-lite, the older one)

[wilder]

My thoughts? I weigh 175-180 lbs in leathers and helmet. If I drink a pint of Gatorade and eat a lunch, I add about 2 lbs. If I go from wood to carbon board, I shave maybe 3.5 lbs. They're about the same. Total mass is all that should really matter for race times, and 3 lbs out of 180 just isn't that important.

However, CF boards can be torsionally stiffer and more responsive-feeling. They probably feel light and fun to ride on. I'd love to have one in my quiver, if at least just for variety. Maybe someday I'll pony up.

Ive felt the same way about total mass, but what about pushing and foot braking? Wouldent it be easier to slow down a lighter board?

[roflsore]

i think cf boards and the like are gay and unneccesary

[K-Rimes]

Though your board is only a small part of your total mass, it is the probably the most important part of that mass.

I find that taking away ANY amount is noticeable, and when you start talking about pounds of difference.... Then you're getting somewhere...

Would you rather ski or snowboard on a 60 pound snowboard, or your usual stick? What if your skis and boots weighed 30 pounds a pop?

In the end, it doesn't make a big difference but I'll tell ya, what little it does make, I like.

[Cranks]

durability compared to wood boards is not good. Carbon absorbs vibration really nicely too though.

[Xgecko]

Would you rather ski or snowboard on a 60 pound snowboard, or your usual stick? What if your skis and boots weighed 30 pounds a pop?

In the end, it doesn't make a big difference but I'll tell ya, what little it does make, I like.

Kevin, not exactly good comparison, Race Snowboards are 6-8 lbs heavier now (with metal layers and hangl plates) than they were 3 years ago. Technology in a heavier snowboard is faster than a light one and the same is true in ski's. Mostly this is due to the dampening properties of Metal on rutted courses but the comparison to race skateboards isn't there

on and if it were my choice I'd snowboard on metal (CoilerAM or Prior4WD thankyou)

[SpeedFiend]

its about the weight under my feet and how i can throw that around
carbon is more flickable

[hexagon5un]

Ive felt the same way about total mass, but what about pushing and foot braking? Wouldent it be easier to slow down a lighter board?

At non-relativistic speeds, gravitational mass and acceleration-resisting mass are approximately the same. (Only the physics geeks are laughing here. And some of them aren't either.)

When you're pushing or braking, you're not really pushing or braking the board -- you're pushing or braking yourself. The board is just a rolley thing in between you and the road.

Though your board is only a small part of your total mass, it is the probably the most important part of that mass.

I find that taking away ANY amount is noticeable, and when you start talking about pounds of difference.... Then you're getting somewhere...

Would you rather ski or snowboard on a 60 pound snowboard, or your usual stick? What if your skis and boots weighed 30 pounds a pop?

In the end, it doesn't make a big difference but I'll tell ya, what little it does make, I like.

And I do believe that coming from you, or other top-flight competitive DH'ers. I only really know about racing from cycling, but 3oz to me is nothing but 3oz to Lance Armstrong matters in the mountains. He's got every last 3oz trimmed off already, and finding another one helps him.

Me? I could lose a couple pounds off me or my clothes easier than off the board. I could take my keys out of my pockets or not carry my cellphone or slide wheels and skate tools in my backpack... (OTOH, you have to go uphill in cycling so total weight matters more than in skating.)

But again, I bet it feels like a CF board turns easier (is more flickable) for various reasons, just as it feels like a lighter board accelerates a lot faster when you're pushing. Might not be noticeable directly in your times, but if you like the way it feels, go for it.

[K-Rimes]

Alright, so maybe the snow comparison didn't work out...

But! I wish that we all were able to try out one of these light boards... You'd see what I mean if you tried one out. At high speeds in corners, a light board makes a difference.

[S.A.M.]

o and also other carbon fiber dropthus are made?

CLB, Wefunk, Airflow

Godspeed as well.