Technique Discussion

**JesseBird** · 10-26-2008 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by surfonsnow214

Let's say you're going into a sharp right turn at high speed. You want to take the outside and then turn into the inside. It distributes your inertia and gives you a better chance of not drifting the turn completely. Heres a vid. Notice they go outside to inside. And the people that don't eat ####. But sometimes you can go inside to inside or outside to outside if its not too sharp.
YouTube - IGSA North American Downhill Championships
But maybe you're thinking of something different im not sure

yea this helps alot, even if its a last second small little outside-then in, it makes a diff. your board gets on more of a parralel angle to the corner and makes it easier to keep your speed. very great technique.

anyone touched the subject of drafting yet?

**Justin Metcalf** · 10-26-2008 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by JesseBird

yea this helps alot, even if its a last second small little outside-then in, it makes a diff. your board gets on more of a parralel angle to the corner and makes it easier to keep your speed. very great technique.

anyone touched the subject of drafting yet?

what about drafting?

Simple concept that seems fairly straightforward to me...
follow the person in front of you because they break the wind for you. Less wind for you to break = higher potential speed. Basically the idea of a wind break.

**JesseBird** · 10-27-2008 12:46 PM

Originally Posted by Justin Metcalf

what about drafting?

Simple concept that seems fairly straightforward to me...
follow the person in front of you because they break the wind for you. Less wind for you to break = higher potential speed. Basically the idea of a wind break.

ad then that opens up train-ing right? grabbin hand of a guy behind/infront of you and draftinng off them but at t he same time making them go faster. ive doen this with some of my friends a couple times but its hard to tell because it does not seem to be giving me a definite speed boost.

and for drafting, does it really matter like if that persons tuck is smaller than yours? causeit would seem logical that you would hit the top of there wind break

**Justin Metcalf** · 10-27-2008 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by JesseBird

ad then that opens up train-ing right? grabbin hand of a guy behind/infront of you and draftinng off them but at t he same time making them go faster. ive doen this with some of my friends a couple times but its hard to tell because it does not seem to be giving me a definite speed boost.

and for drafting, does it really matter like if that persons tuck is smaller than yours? causeit would seem logical that you would hit the top of there wind break

Getting right behind someone and pushing them forward = bump drafting.

It does matter if the person in front of you is larger. If they are larger, you have a larger draft to work with. I'm no physics guy but this is basic logic. When you think about the concept of drafting, if the person is larger they will have a larger draft (larger tuck etc.)

**JesseBird** · 10-27-2008 09:28 PM

Originally Posted by Justin Metcalf

Getting right behind someone and pushing them forward = bump drafting.

It does matter if the person in front of you is larger. If they are larger, you have a larger draft to work with. I'm no physics guy but this is basic logic. When you think about the concept of drafting, if the person is larger they will have a larger draft (larger tuck etc.)

yea simple enough. whats the technique on turning? like turning while doing the train. i havnt quite figured out where to even begin

**Mr. Anderson** · 10-28-2008 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by JesseBird

yea simple enough. whats the technique on turning? like turning while doing the train. i havnt quite figured out where to even begin

Ive tried a bit of this on a slower DH hill with 2-4 guys and the best way ive found to bump draft is to just line your wheels up with the person infront of you, so you stay in the draft and have all but the exact same lines.

**Migzoola** · 11-02-2008 03:26 PM

Anyone utilize kneepads when drifting? I was messing around with that today. It doesnt seem to be good to do a lot, but adds some nice stability if your taking a corner at a high speed.

**JesseBird** · 11-02-2008 05:04 PM

Originally Posted by Migzoola

Anyone utilize kneepads when drifting? I was messing around with that today. It doesnt seem to be good to do a lot, but adds some nice stability if your taking a corner at a high speed.

yea i usually wear my knee pads incase i accidentaly scrape my knee, but ive never tried purposly putting my knee down.

**ConnorH** · 11-02-2008 05:17 PM

i am always have been questioning this. so when I am taking a run that I usually do, I try to stay in my tuck as must as possible, not grabbing rail or putting a hand down. When doing this though i usually don't keep tight to the corner and take the fastest line. so my question is which would be better, taking a corner without breaking a tuck, or take a corner grabbing rail or putting a hand down but taking a faster line?

**Migzoola** · 11-02-2008 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by ConnorH

i am always have been questioning this. so when I am taking a run that I usually do, I try to stay in my tuck as must as possible, not grabbing rail or putting a hand down. When doing this though i usually don't keep tight to the corner and take the fastest line. so my question is which would be better, taking a corner without breaking a tuck, or take a corner grabbing rail or putting a hand down but taking a faster line?

Id say it depends on the situation. I usually keep the tuck as Im coming into the inside of the curve, put my hand down, and take it with as much speed as I can. I really just try to make it so that Im not moving much from the tuck, but rather leaning into the curve and just putting my hand down.

Might sound confusing, but hopefully you understand what Im getting at.

**someone666** · 11-03-2008 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by ConnorH

i am always have been questioning this. so when I am taking a run that I usually do, I try to stay in my tuck as must as possible, not grabbing rail or putting a hand down. When doing this though i usually don't keep tight to the corner and take the fastest line. so my question is which would be better, taking a corner without breaking a tuck, or take a corner grabbing rail or putting a hand down but taking a faster line?

The best line is will take less pressure to turn than any other line. It is generally the fastest line also unless you come out of the corner before it on the inside of this corner and don't have much space to move back across the road.

**PMC** · 11-20-2008 11:34 AM

Well I think I found the right place for this post; I will like for somebody to explain the speed checks and post videos if posible, I can do safety slides but I have never tried speed checks and I will like to stop foot braking when possible, going through a lot of shoes.

Money that can be spend in wheels and other stuff. THX !!!
Now spill the beans come on

**DELETED** · 11-20-2008 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by PMC

Well I think I found the right place for this post; I will like for somebody to explain the speed checks and post videos if posible, I can do safety slides but I have never tried speed checks and I will like to stop foot braking when possible, going through a lot of shoes.

Money that can be spend in wheels and other stuff. THX !!!
Now spill the beans come on

Honestly? Commit.

YouTube

**PMC** · 11-20-2008 02:01 PM

Deleted, THx for the video it has other really nice ones too. Now witch is the best slide to do while at high speed? speed check, coleman or pendy?

Speeds of 35 plus to mid 40s

THX!!!

**DELETED** · 11-21-2008 09:20 AM

I much prefer colemans at higher speeds, toesides are fine too. Speed checks that fast seem a little iffy.

**PMC** · 11-21-2008 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by DELETED

I much prefer colemans at higher speeds, toesides are fine too. Speed checks that fast seem a little iffy.

What is this toeside you speed off

, please explain or like allways a video will be nice

I went yesterday to my local skate shop and found a set of NOS G&S 169mm trucks could not resist, I bought them and put then on a Gravity40" deck. My buddy oldnbroken is coming by this afternoon with some 69mm 92a splitfires. I hope they will be good to practice all the slides.

**LoNgBoArD** · 12-04-2008 10:28 PM

Originally Posted by Mr. Anderson

Ive tried a bit of this on a slower DH hill with 2-4 guys and the best way ive found to bump draft is to just line your wheels up with the person infront of you, so you stay in the draft and have all but the exact same lines.

WOW, that was terrible advice...make sure everyone in ur train takes completely different lines so then u can hopefuly come out of the turn in a gnarly pileup and walk away with the least amout of flesh and skin possible

**Mr. Anderson** · 12-04-2008 10:45 PM

Originally Posted by LoNgBoArD

WOW, that was terrible advice...make sure everyone in ur train takes completely different lines so then u can hopefuly come out of the turn in a gnarly pileup and walk away with the least amout of flesh and skin possible

then you'd b goin slower tho.....so maybe just do it right then have the front guy bail so u can have a gnarlier crash.

**Wabe** · 12-14-2008 05:38 PM

One major thing I have noticed is that grabing rail is really not always the best thing to do. It causes your weight to be closer to your board which can cause wobbles when going through turns if you don't stay consistant where as when you don't grab rail it is easier to control the wobbles with your feet.

My friend likes to grab rail on almost every turn mostly because he has very bad balance and from riding with him I have noticed big disadvantages to this. We were racing down this steep 40mph hill that has a left hand sweeper at the end and I was behind him and we were going about the same speed into the corner. He is regular and I am goofy so he stays basically in his tuck except he grabs rail and I take my back leg off my front leg and pull it out to get more leverage keeping my hands in tucking mode and I gained on his ass so fast it was crazy.

The moral of this is that grabing rail really does slow you down and that it is better to come out of your tuck a bit as it helps you go faster compared to grabing rail on turns. Not only is it more aero it is most often smoother when you go over bumps and cracks and the feeling of no grabing rail through sharpish turns at speed is amazing. It takes some practice to get it right but once you get it down you will be faster and happier because of it.

**keziahlongboards** · 12-25-2008 04:58 PM

I just think it is more fun to not grab rail unless I'm going to drift or think I might. Some of my friends grab rail even on big sweepers and stuff. They say it makes them feel more confident as they skate but I think they should just skate with confidence and keep their hands off the board unless they aren't gripping. But grabbing rail and ripping a hairpin is still my absolute favorite part of downhill