Comet- A freeride/fun time deck

**fonsle** · 03-10-2009 12:00 AM

Mine is mounted and ready to race, but it will be raining/snowing all week long, argh.
Can't wait to try the 68 Checkers...

Here is it: (full edger grip, randals, venoms, potangs)

**grimble** · 03-10-2009 02:07 AM

nicely done jason!

today looks to be dry this afternoon.
guess what i'll be doing later!

**Ogre** · 03-10-2009 02:14 AM

Being a rather active bystander, but a bystander just the same.. That profile pic is sweet.. the Rocker looks supberb..
Now... about this Blix guy, is he really Derv's daddy?
Teasing, that stuff is sik

**cravecrave93** · 03-11-2009 01:14 PM

this deck has me so STOKED, I have my randals w/venomz and pink powerballs, new hardware, new bearings and fresh roll of grip sitting on my dresser waiting for the deck to arrive. I might buy 2 nosebones to protect the nose, but im not sure yet.

would anyone agree that powell nosebones would be a WIN on this deck?

**ridesnow.** · 03-11-2009 01:17 PM

I would suggest against the nosebones if you're going to drill them in... The nose is already strong enough not to need them, so the added drilling to make holes for the powells would probably weaken it more than a hit to the straight deck would.

Otherwise that setup sounds great, you'll have a lot of fun.

ps. My friend Gray drew up some sketches for artwork, Once they're put into illustrator i'll post them...

**Cameronisswell** · 03-11-2009 10:47 PM

This board looks amazing even as a proto, but I just want to know what
comet means by "a tad of torsional flex".

I have a loaded pintail as my only board, and its very flexy, is this board going to have
any flex or is it a stiffer board?

**fonsle** · 03-12-2009 12:16 AM

Originally Posted by Cameronisswell

This board looks amazing even as a proto, but I just want to know what
comet means by "a tad of torsional flex".

I have a loaded pintail as my only board, and its very flexy, is this board going to have
any flex or is it a stiffer board?

The flex in this board is in NO way comparable to any loaded board. If you're used to a flexy Loaded, it will be like standing on a rock.

@jason: you described it as a snowboard on wheels and i think that fits it quite well. With all my other boards i had to prepare slides a little. Now with the deep concave combined with the rocker i just do it. Instead of thinking a lot about technique i can just use brute force which is really fun

**botofusup** · 03-12-2009 08:10 AM

A couple graphic ideas below, I stuck with the purple/yellow theme since that seem to be the original suggestion. I may have some more if I can get to drawing them.

**Fisherman** · 03-12-2009 08:16 AM

This board is looking great!

How do you guys feel about it when just cruising around? Do you guys enjoy it at lower speeds and cruising/carving or is it more of a hill/slide only deck?

**dozerdoggie** · 03-12-2009 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by botofusup

A couple graphic ideas below, I stuck with the purple/yellow theme since that seem to be the original suggestion. I may have some more if I can get to drawing them.

I like the FSM theme verry well done all it needs is kahas and purple otangs

**Petary791** · 03-12-2009 09:09 AM

Originally Posted by Fisherman

This board is looking great!

How do you guys feel about it when just cruising around? Do you guys enjoy it at lower speeds and cruising/carving or is it more of a hill/slide only deck?

Great question. I'm wondering if it's too much for commuting around campus and stuff.

**jason** · 03-12-2009 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by Fisherman

This board is looking great!

How do you guys feel about it when just cruising around? Do you guys enjoy it at lower speeds and cruising/carving or is it more of a hill/slide only deck?

I agree - that is a great question.

Couple of quick stories.

There are 3 people at the factory that dont really skate. They all love the board and I can see how their balance looks more centered on this board than any of the other ones that I have seen them stand on. Even just cruising down the hall or to lunch... they feel more confident and able to stand and carve at low flat land kicking speeds...

Also my cousin just got a job that he needs a board for to get from the train to his office... He has an old 40 inch Comet with a kicktail and likes to roll on the flats and mellow hills. After talking yesterday, I decided that I would send him a prototype b/c of what he said he was interested in instead of a smaller longboard... Being low to the ground and easy to turn, I think that it will make a great commuter / low speed carver...

Lastly - I skate a lot of terrain from transitions, city stuff, to speed runs. I usually dig riding street decks or pool type shapes to roll around on... from pt A to B
I also have never been really attracted to the so called dancing thing personally (although very impressed by it)
Funny what a new board will do but I am finding myself effortlessly cross stepping, standing backwards, riding switch and goofing around like I do when I am surfing a long board. I had the FSM up on campus the other night and found it easy enough to weave through people and cracky sidewalks and no big deal to carry into my appointment.

I know that seems like a lot of information but oddly enough I have been pondering this a lot since Monday...

**botofusup** · 03-12-2009 09:46 AM

Originally Posted by Fisherman

This board is looking great!

How do you guys feel about it when just cruising around? Do you guys enjoy it at lower speeds and cruising/carving or is it more of a hill/slide only deck?

This thing is a breeze to push, its low and the rocker gives you a balanced/centered feeling. It carves really nice, the length, width and concave made it pretty nimble, and you do not have to go fast to enjoy this deck. If you want to go fast, it will handle it no problem.

**jason** · 03-12-2009 10:32 AM

I have attached a summary of the evaluations from the test pilots.
I tried to simplify the feedback as much as possible.
The Evaluation Sheets were all between 3 and 5 pages each, which gave me around 65 pages of very well thought out and thorough feed back. Thanks to you all...

The spread sheet that I attached has 3 columns :
The first one is a category that is linked to the questions asked.
Second is an extreme summary of notes. Very simplified to allow for quantification of very subjective analysis.
The third is frequency. The frequency is the amount something was stated.
For example: If four people rode the board with Randal 180 50* there are four 1's in that box (1111)
If six people did not get wheel bite there are six 1's in that box (111111)
and so on.
*** The frequency is only linked to column 1,,,((((( not the notes column)))).
The notes that were included seemed enough of a trend to include.

The major changes that seem logical based on the feed back are:

1. extend platform .5 inches on each end. (keep WB and Length the same)
2. Wheel wells (probably exactly what Jorgen drew)
3. Harder angle where the nose and tail meet the platform to allow for more clearence (Jorgen and Evan provided drawings)
4. change drop mounts to fit more trucks

Now the tricky part:
5 people are asking for more rocker....

5 people are asking for more concave

that is significant but less than 50%

5. Proposed change: give the board more concave toward ends and outer edges of platform.
This may give more perceived rocker and concave w/o modifying overall shape too much.

In lieu of that proposed change, we would not modify concave or rocker based on majority of people being stoked.

It seems like the current concave has struck a balance between deep enough to lock you in and not soo deep that your feet get cramped...

The mold change is significant enough that we should all make sure that it is necessary and give commentary if you feel strongly either way.

Alright that is all for now...

I am stoked that Blair has submitted that first artwork - super rad work!
Lets keep the submissions rolling in!

Cheers

**ZampraZ** · 03-12-2009 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by botofusup

A couple graphic ideas below, I stuck with the purple/yellow theme since that seem to be the original suggestion. I may have some more if I can get to drawing them.

The one with the politician raising his hands looks absolutely awesome. It's great that it has all the FSM names on the deck, perhaps a bit more purple-ish color but no matter. Looks awesome

**Cameronisswell** · 03-12-2009 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by jason

It seems like the current concave has struck a balance between deep enough to lock you in and not soo deep that your feet get cramped...

This seems perfect for a funtime deck, not hinting at any specific discipline if that makes sense?

I personally think that a lot of concave is overrated for any board thats non-dh specific

**ridesnow.** · 03-12-2009 05:10 PM

my friend raised a good point that it shouldn't be lakers purple and yellow because that's too overplayed. It should be a rich purple like the middle top one in this picture, and like a neon yellow, not mustard...

As for concave/rocker, I wouldn't really complain if they were increased, but I like them just the way they are. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

**Blix** · 03-12-2009 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by Fisherman

This board is looking great!

How do you guys feel about it when just cruising around? Do you guys enjoy it at lower speeds and cruising/carving or is it more of a hill/slide only deck?

I LOVE mine for just cruising and fooling around, I`ve had a couple dry-ish days here and have been able to use mine outside a parking garage for change.
And oh, I`m selling my Dervish, I like my FSM proto way more.

**Blix** · 03-12-2009 05:36 PM

Originally Posted by ridesnow.

As for concave/rocker, I wouldn't really complain if they were increased, but I like them just the way they are. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

I agree, I wrote in the eval sheet that a little more concave would be nice, but I would be totally happy with it as is. This deck just gets better every time I use it.

**NiN0B** · 03-12-2009 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by ridesnow.

my friend raised a good point that it shouldn't be lakers purple and yellow because that's too overplayed. It should be a rich purple like the middle top one in this picture, and like a neon yellow, not mustard...

As for concave/rocker, I wouldn't really complain if they were increased, but I like them just the way they are. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

yes, it should be deeper rich purple, not bluey purple