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Old 01-10-2008, 03:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Default It's so hard to nose manual my Dervish...

Man...I'm starting to get annoyed and frustrated.

Been practicing nose-manualing my Loaded Dervish (RII180s/Gumablls) forever. Most I can do is travel 10". I either fall forward or have a hard time lifting the rear end.

Don't know what I'm doing wrong. Am I going too slow/fast? Is there something wrong with my stance/footplanting? I know it's hard for you to tell what's wrong...but please try and help me out.

Is the Dervish a particularly difficult board to manual?

Any tips welcome! Thanks.

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Old 01-10-2008, 03:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: It's so hard to nose manual my Dervish...

Its harder to manual then a board with a longer nose such as an OSD, but its completely doable it just takes lots and lots and lots of practice. Keep working at it, don't be afraid to put weight on the nose, and try it at a medium cruising speed, having a little speed helps.
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Old 01-10-2008, 03:43 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: It's so hard to nose manual my Dervish...

You're right .. it's hard to tell what you're doing wrong if we don't see you
Start off quite slow ( a little bit faster than your walking speed or just speed that you feel comfortable with ) , then when you start to manual , look down and try to center your weight over your front truck.
You could also try to tighten your front trucks if they're loose, this might help too.
mmh... what can i say .. just keep on practicing and you'll make it.
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Faster speed and try wrapping your toes around the noes of the board, like a monkey.

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Default Re: It's so hard to nose manual my Dervish...

Just posted this in another thread, but what made it a lot easier for me was to get some 1/8in soft risers. The Dervish is so flexy, esp at the cutout, that the board will bend a good deal across the truck before lifting the whole board. The risers add enough stiffness here so that the force you place on the front will lift the board consistently rather than the board accepting it and bending. I hadn't skated for 4 days and did this and popped a serious manual first shot. I was shocked. Some may think this is cheating but I really don't care, I'll take whatever I can get

Also, work on consistent foot placement.
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Old 01-10-2008, 12:59 PM   #6 (permalink)
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i don't get it
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Default Re: It's so hard to nose manual my Dervish...

Adjust your foot placements. Front foot around a 45 degree angle I like, with my heel on the baseplate of the truck (I haven't rode a dervish but this is what works for me on most boards). Your toes may hang over the nose a bit, but the heel on the baseplate is nice because it gives you direct feed onto that pivot point.

Back foot pretty far back there, the more I got used to nose manualing the wider my stance got. It's further than shoulder width by a fair amount for me now. You'll probably be only contacting the tail with your toes on your back foot, so make sure your toes are in the middle of the board width-wise so you don't start turning while in a manual.

Medium speed helps. Too slow makes it hard to balance and too fast has high consequences. Go around jogging speed. Just practice more and more, it takes a long time. Once you start getting it, it'll all be worth it.
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Default Re: It's so hard to nose manual my Dervish...

just got my dervish yesterday...rode it for a good 2 miles at 10 at night

It's a fun board. Really different then what I'm used to.

I too am having some difficulty with manuals, but i noticed, once you finally get it, it stays for a long time.

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try to manual a vanguard then ^^
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Default Re: It's so hard to nose manual my Dervish...

loaded boards are difficult to manual at first (well, it was for me), as they are so light, the weighting you must place on your front foot is drastically different than other boards (my big bug for example). However, once you get it, it's nice to be light... all it takes is practice practice practice, and your muscles will eventually remember the right amount of pressure.
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Get one of these.

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You'll get it, just keep on practicing. If it gets frustrating, then just carve for a bit, and go back to it. Have a clear mind.
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Get one of these.

aw, if i had one i could manny 12x as long. Shucks.
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