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Old 02-10-2008, 10:41 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default 360 spins on back wheels (spinning manuals)

Stoked on freestyle longboard/mini longboarding (yes, the first time I used the word "stoked"..lol) I've seen clips of people popping up on their back wheels, and spinning like crazy on it. When I do it...well, I can't. Not yet anyway. I know that the FD Classic 29 is a great choice for freestyle and am going to attempt to learn it on that. First things first, got some questions:

1) How on earth do I not shoot out?

2) Being as my C29 has adjustable WB, right now my rear truck in in the rear-most holes, shorter tail. Should I scoot this up? (Actually, I have my front truck in it's rear position, and rear truck in rear position). So more leverage? (I'm also trying not to scrape/drag the tail...I hate having shaved down tails)

3) Do I need to go into this with speed or can I take it at a slow cruising speed?

4) How do I keep the spin going? Just throw myself into the spin nice & hard?

Thanks for accepting my such noobishness...someday, I'll be out of that newb stage but right now, this is all in fun. That's what it's all about anyway, right? (Atleast I accomplished landing body varials today while moving...had the hardest time with that, shooting out..lol)
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Old 02-10-2008, 11:16 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: 360 spins on back wheels (spinning manuals)

step 1: learn to manual. this will be difficult, and probably take you much time. practice.

step 2: learn to space walk *optional* but it will help you get used to turning while on 2 wheels

step 3: throw your arms up, and start spinning. at first, try 180*. next, go all the way around. you'll learn how to lock yourself in and use centrifugal force to keep you upright from there.

this maneuver generally looks best when cupeled with a mild bank or driveway, spin at the top, then roll down.
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Old 02-11-2008, 10:36 PM   #3 (permalink)
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step 1: learn to manual. this will be difficult, and probably take you much time. practice.

step 2: learn to space walk *optional* but it will help you get used to turning while on 2 wheels
When I was a kid, 360s were usually the very first trick everyone learned, and were the benchmark you were measured by. While learning manuals and spacewalks are good, they don't really translate over to spinning. If you can kickturn, you can spin.

The key to spinning is to keep yourself centered directly over the rear truck. You want the board to pivot around the kingpin of the rear truck, instead of carving in really tight circles. Tight trucks with narrow hangers, and very hard, narrow wheels will make it easier.

I usually place my rear foot almost directly over the truck, with my foot pointing at about a 45* angle forward. If you have your foot in a typical skating position (ball of foot on tail, 90* to deck), you'll tend to carve small circles, instead of spinning.

When you start the spin, its easier to balance, and get a strong start, by having your front foot close to the nose of the board, but this will slow down your spin. Once you can manage a few spins, you can increase the speed, and number of spins, by sliding your foot back once you've started spinning. Guys that can hit 100 easily, like Richy Carrasco and John Pope, will end up with their front foot right against their rear foot. It also helps to have your arms out in front of you as you start, and gradually pull them in against your chest once you've gotten balanced.

Richy has a lot of good advice on his 360s forum at Sk8Kings:

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Old 02-12-2008, 08:59 PM   #4 (permalink)
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^Thanks for the info. Yesterday, upon cruising home from work or where ever I was coming from, I managed to do 1 whole 180 spin...without scraping or shooting out...*hears 1 random person barely clapping in background* Well, it's a start I'd say...
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Old 02-13-2008, 11:47 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Just keep practising them, think about keeping your body weight centered like a pole, im learning them too. I always get atleast 270 degrees, my most is 540, but thats just luck
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Just thought I'd throw this in:



Those 360 manuals come in at :38, but sit around for some amazing skating before it.

Anyone know if the blonde haired kid with red long sleeves and a black t-shirt is Jay Adams?
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ahh.... downhill motion. one of my favorite skating movies. such style
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lol, heres a tip... take ballet... my sister can bust 360s like its her job on a board, back when i used to try them a lot she gave me the tip of turning my head in the direction i want to spin and keep looking that way... your shoulders and body will follow. It works along with practice.
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The master in action:

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After 10+ years of skateboarding I can now reliably spin 360s frontside and backside. Awesome!
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Its funny, I can't spin more than 1.5 to 2 360's backside now. We used to spin that many on a bank! Frontside is so much easier for me, the body positioning is better. The most I have spun is in the 8-9 range (70's), but currently I can hit 3-4 very consistently, but not much more than that.

"spinning manuals", thats a hoot.

speaking of manuals, when did it stop being a wheelie and become a manual? In the 80's it was still a wheelie. However I dropped out of the real scene in the 91-98 time (family and kids born), then it was a manual.
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"spinning manuals", thats a hoot.
I often hear that one, along with "He just did a ... a ... (takes a few seconds to do the math) ... a 4680!"

I always get a kick out of little kids' reactions when I tell them that when I was their age, that was one of the very first tricks that everybody learned....
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speaking of manuals, when did it stop being a wheelie and become a manual? In the 80's it was still a wheelie. However I dropped out of the real scene in the 91-98 time (family and kids born), then it was a manual.
'officially' a manual is an ollie to wheelie. but nowadays even wheelies are called manuals..

one more tip then: wind up your arms, spin them first and when they're in front of you lock them so your whole body moves.. and concentrate on the rear trucks like already mentioned!
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