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    Default When Did A "Wheelie" Become A "Manual" And Why?

    Why do I have a feeling the only reason is saying "wheelie" just wasn't macho enough?

    When did all this happen and who did it?
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    Default Re: When Did A "Wheelie" Become A "Manual" And Why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Parallel Man View Post
    Why do I have a feeling the only reason is saying "wheelie" just wasn't macho enough?

    When did all this happen and who did it?
    a manual is "technically" an ollie to a wheelie. so, if you're just cruising around and pop a wheelie, it's just a wheelie...you gotta pop an ollie and land on two wheels to "technically" be a manual
    yes, an uber-grippy, square-lipped slalom wheel IS the best for sliding
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    Default Re: When Did A "Wheelie" Become A "Manual" And Why?

    Age gap, my friend.

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    Default Re: When Did A "Wheelie" Become A "Manual" And Why?

    Age gap? Maybe. But they were called manuals when I started skating in 1985...soooooo I dunno.
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    Default Re: When Did A "Wheelie" Become A "Manual" And Why?

    I thought it came from BMX where a Wheelie is pedaled but a Manual is just balanced

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    Default Re: When Did A "Wheelie" Become A "Manual" And Why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xgecko View Post
    I thought it came from BMX where a Wheelie is pedaled but a Manual is just balanced
    that's what I heard too,
    wheelie, you are seated...

    btw Wes, high jumps are called hippie jumps now...
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    Default Re: When Did A "Wheelie" Become A "Manual" And Why?

    "Like the time I caught the ferry over to Shelbyville. I needed a new heel for my shoe. So, I decided to go to Morganville, which is what they called Shelbyville in those days. So I tied an onion to my belt, which was the style at the time. Now, to take the ferry cost a nickel, and in those days nickels had pictures of bumblebees on them. 'Give me five bees for a quarter', you'd say. Now, where were we? Oh, yeah...the important thing was that I had an onion on my belt, which was the style at the time. They didn't have white onions because of the war; the only thing you could get was those big yellow ones."


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    Default Re: When Did A "Wheelie" Become A "Manual" And Why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Xgecko View Post
    I thought it came from BMX where a Wheelie is pedaled but a Manual is just balanced
    Quote Originally Posted by sk8norcal View Post
    that's what I heard too,
    wheelie, you are seated...
    You guys are clueless. 8) "Wheelie" came from drag racing.



    And riding a skateboard with the front wheels off the ground has been called a "wheelie" since at least 1963. It's a "nose wheelie" when you ride with the back wheels off the ground:

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    Default Re: When Did A "Wheelie" Become A "Manual" And Why?

    Quote Originally Posted by bucksaw87 View Post
    a manual is "technically" an ollie to a wheelie. so, if you're just cruising around and pop a wheelie, it's just a wheelie...you gotta pop an ollie and land on two wheels to "technically" be a manual
    I think this is the correct answer

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    Default Re: When Did A "Wheelie" Become A "Manual" And Why?

    Hang ten nose wheelie rule use to be able to do them the length of the parking lot south of the Mission beach plunge when my ankles were good.

    My other favorite trick that is pure style is G turns frontside, backside and backwards.
    I miss the days when free flow style was king 8) Stacey Peralta had the best flow I have seen.
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    Default Re: When Did A "Wheelie" Become A "Manual" And Why?

    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Trimble View Post
    Hang ten nose wheelie rule use to be able to do them the length of the parking lot south of the Mission beach plunge when my ankles were good.

    My other favorite trick that is pure style is G turns frontside, backside and backwards.
    I miss the days when free flow style was king 8) Stacey Peralta had the best flow I have seen.
    I still remember the shot of Stacey in a *360 spin, just this big wave of spinnin hair. But yeah, he had style.

    How bout Skitch Hitchcock and one footed *360's... 8)
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    Default Re: When Did A "Wheelie" Become A "Manual" And Why?

    never mind
    My comments represent a selfishly one sided 1970's skateboarder mindset, and do not reflect the current fashion-skate-lifestyle industry's views.

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    Default Re: When Did A "Wheelie" Become A "Manual" And Why?

    It came from BMX
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    Default Re: When Did A "Wheelie" Become A "Manual" And Why?

    Quote Originally Posted by BuckWyld View Post
    I think this is the correct answer
    Then it must be just de-evolution of the word. Every time some skater is on two wheels, no matter how he got there, it's described as "pulling" or "riding" a manual.

    I can definitely see, though, how an ollie on to two wheels would be vastly different than just popping a wheelie.

    Thanks everyone for the clarification.
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    Default Re: When Did A "Wheelie" Become A "Manual" And Why?

    Quote Originally Posted by rawls View Post
    I refuse to rename things (or manuevers) to match people's new found definitions, just because they weren't around in an earlier time. ITs a wheelie, thats just what it is. If you land in a wheelie from an ollie, or popping out of tranny, or off the lip of a ditch or bank, its still a wheelie. I skated thru the 80's, I dont ever recall it being called a manual. I did not hear of manuals until the early-mid 90's, and then I just scoffed and said, its a wheelie.

    If you are stationary and balancing with the wheels up, its still a wheelie, but I guess you could broaden the terminology to say "balancing" on the front or back truck.
    I know what you mean. I refuse to call all regular-foot left hand turns on a skateboard "frontside" myself. The terms "frontside" and "backside" come from surfing and they have to do with how you are facing the wave.

    If you go up some tranny in a park and carve left then yeah, that's frontside because it is just like when you are on a wave. If you are going down a hill and turn/drift/coleman whatever to the left then that is not "frontside" anything because your back is to the hill. I don't care if some pro who is a hundred times better skater than I am calls it that either. It's a ****in' moronic thing to say.

    I just say heelside or toeside because then everyone knows what you mean and it finesses explaining the whole goofy-foot regular-foot thing at the same time too.
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    Default Re: When Did A "Wheelie" Become A "Manual" And Why?

    Toeside is frontside.

    Heelside is backside.

    I have been told I ride my slalom board "goofy mongo." I put the LEFT foot on the back of the board, push with the right, bring it up and place it on the front of the board and turn my toes to the left with my heel to the right.

    In slalom I've had the discussion where there is not necessarily a "fast" lane for everyone. What a regular rider considers front side I take backside and vice-versa. I've been on some courses where people are tweaking and adjusting and I'll ask why and the answer is, "man, no one can get that frontside fourth offset," I've been hitting it backside all day and never even noticed it. Of course, farther down the course I'm braking like a mutha' to get some frontside offset while everyone else screaming through like their ass is on fire.

    Words do have meaning and are not always open to the whim of the moment.
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    Default Re: When Did A "Wheelie" Become A "Manual" And Why?

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    Default Re: When Did A "Wheelie" Become A "Manual" And Why?

    Yargh! It's a wheelie punks, and get off my lawn!
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    Default Re: When Did A "Wheelie" Become A "Manual" And Why?

    It funny we have gone from wheelies and manuals to the old frontside and backside controversy. Skateboarding did come from surfing. Has morphed in to own sport so people who have never seen the ocean can do it, I live at the beach I have surfing roots.

    If your in a pool or ramp and your back is to the coping it backside.
    If your facing the coping then it frontside,
    I don't think this will ever change like Mike Smith doing a frontside smith grind.
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    Default Re: When Did A "Wheelie" Become A "Manual" And Why?

    Wheelie makes me think that something is propelling the vehicle forward. When a drag racer, motorcyclist, or biker does a wheelie, they are putting energy into it while balancing. When a biker, skateboarder, or snowboarder does a "manual" they are only balancing, not pedaling or throttling.

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