read this and wonder if there aren't some parallels in skateboarding...

[skategeezer]

[a_speck_of_dust]

ok, lets see if i can get this right

back then music was all music. nothing but music. everybody loved it, even the musicians loved it. music was music, and the good jolly ol' things came along with it. until music was commercialized and nobody cared about it. music became money, and greed, and a popularity contest instead of music like it was supposed to be. but there was still people that made music because music is what they really loved, not the money greed or popularity.

skateboarding...

used to be fun. like music, it was just skateboarding. people skated because they loved skateboarding for skateboarding. and everything came along with it, fun, smiles, broken bones, but most importantly stoke. but the commercializing of skateboarding turned it into, like music, money, greed and popularity. nobody cares about how that pro skates, and vert is "gay." the new pros that are in the magazine are pros that wear the newest clothes, or the newest pair of shoes, of did this trick and that trick. and it is all good until nobody cares about them anymore

but there are people out there who skate because skateboarding is skateboarding. they skate because they love skateboarding. they skate because they dont care about landing this trick or that trick, and if they really wanted to they would - because they loved it. there are the few who skate because it brings them fun, smiles, broken bones, and stoke. they dont care about what they wear, as long is it works. they skate because its fun, and to those few it doesnt matter how good they are at it, they just skate because they love to skate.

amirite?

[enemy combatant]

Bob Leftsetz...
You'd be stunned how much Cream played in America. And not every gig was a success. It was impossible to get noticed. And it wasn't about their looks, or the production, but the music. It's got to be that way in order for music to drive the culture once again.

What an utter and complete crock of sh*t. This guy doesn't know WTF he is talking about!

Cream was one of the first "supergroups", heavily promoted by the record labels and a HUGE commercial success with massive record sales and concert attendance right from the start. The Yardbirds might have started in obscurity but by the time Cream was formed most of these guys were already rich and famous.

BTW, Howlin' Wolf, Muddy Waters, John Lee Hooker, Albert King, ad infinitum... had it all over the British blues imitators.

Butterfield Blues Band > Cream.

Buddy Guy > Eric Clapton.
Kenny Wayne Shepherd > Eric Clapton.
Junior Brown > Eric Clapton.

[sk8norcal]

kids, fashion, skateboard, music...
and old farts complaining...
some things never change...

LiveLeak.com - Henry Rollins on "Selling...

[Barf]

Well, he got ONE thing right... U2 is the Rolling Stones of our generation. People go, not because the latest album is any good, but because "They're U2!!"

Bono go home!

[rawls]

...ok, lets see if i can get this right.....amirite?....

thats the way I see it. Plus, I didn't have to type!

the biggest thing in there that I enjoyed was about noone caring about the pros. They have a false sense of importance, all 65,394 of them, that they are "skateboarding"; they aren't. They are simply the tool that enables the skateboard market to maintain a $5B industry without actually focusing on skateboarding, but rather on support of a market appearing to be skateboarding.

"it is all good until nobody cares about them anymore". Yep, because thats when the $5B industry begins to crumble.

Its all good till the consumer begins to make up there own mind, then the ones that are in it for the wrong reasons begin to cry. The IASC cries, THEREFORE the IASC is in it for the wrong reasons (period)

[Mile_High_Mark]

Eric Clapton wishes he was poor and black.

U2 sued one of my best friends from high school.

I like skateboarding.

[Pandemonium]

ok, lets see if i can get this right

back then music was all music. nothing but music. everybody loved it, even the musicians loved it. music was music, and the good jolly ol' things came along with it. until music was commercialized and nobody cared about it. music became money, and greed, and a popularity contest instead of music like it was supposed to be. but there was still people that made music because music is what they really loved, not the money greed or popularity.

skateboarding...

used to be fun. like music, it was just skateboarding. people skated because they loved skateboarding for skateboarding. and everything came along with it, fun, smiles, broken bones, but most importantly stoke. but the commercializing of skateboarding turned it into, like music, money, greed and popularity. nobody cares about how that pro skates, and vert is "gay." the new pros that are in the magazine are pros that wear the newest clothes, or the newest pair of shoes, of did this trick and that trick. and it is all good until nobody cares about them anymore

but there are people out there who skate because skateboarding is skateboarding. they skate because they love skateboarding. they skate because they dont care about landing this trick or that trick, and if they really wanted to they would - because they loved it. there are the few who skate because it brings them fun, smiles, broken bones, and stoke. they dont care about what they wear, as long is it works. they skate because its fun, and to those few it doesnt matter how good they are at it, they just skate because they love to skate.

amirite?

thanks for that, you posted a tl;dr for him. but i still fail to see a point. longboarding is fun, yeah!

[rawls]

thanks for that, you posted a tl;dr for him. but i still fail to see a point. longboarding is fun, yeah!

the skaters (regardless of the discipline) that simply ride for the sake of enjoyment and stoke (regardless of their skate ability, pros or joes) are like the Dylan and Allman bros example. the mainstream "jump on the wagon" skaters are more like the spice girl variety; its here, its now, its what all the cool people are into; next year it will be cowboy hats. It can be applied to the artists as well as the market following, and even the market.

SPEAKING OF COWBOY HATS! guess what. My teenage daughter got some cowboy boots. Stating that they are the rage at her school. You know it wont be long----- cowboy hats will hit. And the urban cowboy theme will leave the mall boarders jumping ship faster than you scream poser at a crowded skatepark.

[kenofseattle]

...BTW, Howlin' Wolf, Muddy Waters, John Lee Hooker, Albert King...

What a lineup! All of these guys are gods to me.