Strange/unique board setups that RIP

**leadfoot** · 01-18-2007 12:47 AM

Hey, is anyone interested in me telling ya more about the Scriber? or am I wasting my time?

**bpz** · 01-27-2007 01:28 PM

Finally got to snap some photos of the board I originally posted about, with my new crisp lens nonetheless.

Gravity Brad Edwards BE40 deck
Silver Crail speed trucks w/ grade-8 kingpins
Large green Stim and lathed yellow Stim in front
Large green Radikal and large blue Stim in back (flat washers all around)
68mm 90a Comet Game wheels w/ Biltin bearings

It carves. It cruises. It slides. I can pop ollies and bonelesses with it easily. I can do standing speed checks and pump it both on the flats and in a skatepark. I can spin 360's on it. It's insane how much this board can do.

**Partyboypowell** · 01-27-2007 01:30 PM

It's a gem of a duro. i LOVE my 90a street g's, very versatile!

**pavedwave** · 01-27-2007 11:44 PM

Originally Posted by leadfoot

Hey, is anyone interested in me telling ya more about the Scriber?

that was a very cool review! up until now I haven't seen much more than speculation on how the Scribers ride, and marketing-ish reviews, but little from actual riders and street testing. your experience of tweaking and bumping up the board size was interesting. it seems like it would shine most in slow to moderate speed carving, not flat and not downhill ..but thats just my impression. do the four springs provide all the return to center, or is there another bushing in there somewhere?

**leadfoot** · 01-30-2007 04:48 PM

Originally Posted by pavedwave

that was a very cool review! up until now I haven't seen much more than speculation on how the Scribers ride, and marketing-ish reviews, but little from actual riders and street testing. your experience of tweaking and bumping up the board size was interesting. it seems like it would shine most in slow to moderate speed carving, not flat and not downhill ..but thats just my impression. do the four springs provide all the return to center, or is there another bushing in there somewhere?

Hey Sofa King! Nice set up.
Exactly how long are the kingpins? I have to get a couple of sets, the Crail kingpins are driving me nuts.

Pavedwave, I dont know that the springs have so much return. Its not like thay have enough power to centre me and the board. It feels kind of like riding a board without bushings at all. There sort of is bushings in it, but they really are more like a rubber coating on the axle. They don’t really dampen the turning of the trucks, they just sort of smooth out the end of the trucks range, if you know what I mean.
I can only assume that torsion trucks have a similar stop point to the turn like these. But Scriber trucks feel so loose that you carve and hit the edge.
It feels a lot different.
I put the Speed vents on them too and found out a couple of things.

The Krypto 70mms worked better for two reasons. Wheel bite is one, but can't really be argued as the original board has cut outs that avoid wheel bite. The other reason that the Krypto’s work better is the fact that the axles are short and the 8mm cores on the kryptos allow the nyloc axle nut to fully tighten in. On the Speedvents, I couldn’t even put on one speed ring. The problem could be solved easily though with narrower axle nuts. But these were the narrowest ones I had. I was amazed that there is a video of a guy on the Grombiz site doing 100kph on this board with what looks like abec 11 wheels.
http://www.grombiz.com/wade100kmh.htm
How did he get them on? Maybe there is a newer model with longer axles. Or maybe he has no speedrings.

I also got a bit of a shock when I went over a small lip on some concrete that went onto the road. The truck bottomed out and I came off. The joint where the truck pivots is a lot lower to the ground than regular trucks. I got hung up on the concrete.

(the vents do look cool on there though)

So now I’ve decided that I am going to build a board for these trucks. A speedboard shape with cut outs, one that is completely flat. A nice easy first board building project.
I do like the trucks. I dont race DH or do slalom or anything, but I think a Scriber has possibilities for slalom. If you get a chance to ride one, test it out. May or may not be your cup of tea.

**C11scriber** · 02-04-2007 03:42 AM

Hey guys. I have a scriber too and i love it! i use it for low speed carving without bushings (just the loose springs which are always connected) and high-speed carving and some bombing (only up to 50kp/h so far).

You can change the angle of the steering on it from 0 degrees to 180 indipendently of the stiffness of the trucks which is cool because you can set it up so many different ways for different styles of riding so the boards not limited to just carving or just bombing. And also the other thing i love about it is that the steering is really smooth because its supported by bearings not rubber like normal trucks.

But there is some downsides to it like the rubber bushings you can put in arent very tight so theres not a really solid centre point theres just a bit of looseness in the middle (if that makes sense?). And if you are used to a tight setup it will take getting used to riding without bushings. But overall im really happy with it and its loads of fun.

i pm'd you leadfoot ^

**SteveC** · 02-04-2007 04:20 AM

Stock scriber wheels are a urethane, rubber mix, so they're faster than pure rubber but still slow when compared to a grippin for example. They do make great wet's though!

They are highly adjustable in steering geometry, but are constantly a little sloppy.
they look a bit scary at speed, but the people who are used to them seem to do fine.
I've personaly witnessed scribers at 60kph. and ripping 7ft cones... same board, rider, wheels.
I don't think you need speedrings because they're machined. Abec11's fit, but not with biltins because they have rings 'built in'

I highly approve of putting them on a longer board! Not that I don't like the shlongboard thing : )

The low pivot point hanging up is a real issue, 70mm wheels at least
They need spring options, it's fine for the lighter guys, but they feel too loose to me at 200 odd pounds. You could probably do this yourself though...
I don't know anyone who runs them at the thinner axle width, so it seems to me It's just something extra to buy/fail. they do need checking every so often!
they do need another three turns on the axle thread, one is vital. three would be a lot safer.

Jack of all, master of none.
I really hope they stay afloat and release another version. just a few tweeks and those trucks are going to totally rule!

**leadfoot** · 02-04-2007 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by SteveC

I really hope they stay afloat and release another version. just a few tweeks and those trucks are going to totally rule!

Good to meet ya C11 !!

Yeah Steve. I think you are right about Mk 2.
If they just tinker a little more they could be there.

**pavedwave** · 02-04-2007 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by leadfoot

It feels kind of like riding a board without bushings at all. There sort of is bushings in it, but they really are more like a rubber coating on the axle. They don’t really dampen the turning of the trucks, they just sort of smooth out the end of the trucks range, if you know what I mean...

yeah, i think so. i still like running a couple setups with seismics sans springs, although normally just the front one, so i wonder if thats similar. the chance for wheelbite is clear before even getting on because you can turn the floppy truck to its full turn radius by hand. maybe gluing or melting rubber stoppers onto the seismic baseplates contact points would result in that same 'smoothing' effect...

as for spring options Steve mentions - seems you could switch up to a tighter/thicker spring pretty easily? at least they look like a standard double ended spring from a distance.

**leadfoot** · 02-04-2007 09:49 PM

Originally Posted by pavedwave

as for spring options Steve mentions - seems you could switch up to a tighter/thicker spring pretty easily? at least they look like a standard double ended spring from a distance.

You know after I read that I thought I should give it a try.
Im going to look at doing that.
There is some potential here. Its something to tinker with thats for sure.

**SteveC** · 02-04-2007 10:16 PM

You have to bend the links open with two pliers. Greg replaces these links with slightly smaller ones and it kills a bit of the slop.

As for replacing the springs, one of the reasons they're so sloppy is that they're nowhere near their fail point at full lean. So I'd recommend going somewhere fairly specialised to get them, somewhere that they know what they're talking about!

**jaycottrell** · 05-02-2009 10:08 AM

Originally Posted by Crappysurfer

hey i was looking at those scriber guys, i checked out their stuff, like their schematics for the trucks and all the things they do, unfortunately the people who made them dont appear to be very advanced skaters so i didnt get much of an idea how they performed from their site...

im a newbie here and am not endorsing anything , but i will tell you one thing i know for sure , the creator of the scriber is very advanced and has been involved in massive world downhill events for a while , so please get your facts str8 , thanks

**Crappysurfer** · 05-02-2009 10:15 AM

Originally Posted by jaycottrell

im a newbie here and am not endorsing anything , but i will tell you one thing i know for sure , the creator of the scriber is very advanced and has been involved in massive world downhill events for a while , so please get your facts str8 , thanks

this thread was made 2 years ago, get your facts str8

**jaycottrell** · 05-02-2009 10:24 AM

Originally Posted by Crappysurfer

this thread was made 2 years ago, get your facts str8

true true , as i said , i a newbie here ( no excuse will do i guess ) was not meaning to be negative , but thanks for the heads up , good to know peopleread this

**jaycottrell** · 05-02-2009 10:40 AM

Originally Posted by Crappysurfer

this thread was made 2 years ago, get your facts str8

thanks for your reply , you have revived my semi beleife in forum type things haha (no pun , im just laughing) i would be interested in hearing any new info you have heard or read about the scriber advancements , just goin on a whim it might turn out pretty cool , cheers

**Crappysurfer** · 05-02-2009 11:10 AM

havent followed up the scriber business, not really interested in them :/

**Bruce22** · 05-02-2009 11:14 AM

OG all original parts hobie

**nugpop68** · 05-02-2009 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Bruce22

OG all original parts hobie

!st generation Tracker Halftracks ftw. Talk about design copy. Every standard triangular hanger is based on this design. You are looking at the genesis of skateboards as we know them.

**Repan** · 05-02-2009 11:40 AM

I have the craziest setup ever:
Loaded Dervish
Randall 180's
Orangatangs Inheats

**nugpop68** · 05-02-2009 12:07 PM

I have an older superglider (1st run/no wells) that I've described in other threads. On rainy days, I play with various set ups, and accidently found nirvana in my glider with black Crails and green 76mm Kryptonics. Yes, sounds too wide and too high. Negative on both counts. No footbite, and the crails have added substantial stability at speed. This was my only complaint with this board and the Crails nailed it. Most gliders I see have Indy's or similar, but if you've got some Crails around, give it a shot for fun. You might like it.