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    Default Which way for Speed Rings!

    So I searched and searched for an answer but I couldn't find it.

    Just got a new set of trucks and the last two boards I purchased were completes so I didn't have to think about this too much.

    WHICH WAY DO SPEED RINGS GO?

    I am not asking where they go but I noticed one side is smooth/rounded and the other side is squared and rough. Which side faces the bearings?

    Thanks an advance!


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    Default Re: Which way for Speed Rings!

    I usually have the flat side face the bearing, but I really don't think it matters at all.
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    Default Re: Which way for Speed Rings!

    ^^^ This. Although I'm sure there are some who would argue otherwise.


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    Default Re: Which way for Speed Rings!

    Doesn't matter.
    I've never even noticed a difference. I'm sure the different sides are just a result of the way they're manufactured.

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    Default Re: Which way for Speed Rings!

    They go SIDEWAYS.




    Edit: jk I've noticed that. I don't think there's much of a difference but I put the smooth side towards the bearings.

    Edit edit: by much of a difference, I mean no difference haha. So idk.

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    Default Re: Which way for Speed Rings!

    If ANYONE can tell the difference, then they can feel free to explain..
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    Default Re: Which way for Speed Rings!

    Washer and rings are press-cut with a several ton die, that can usually cut hundreds in one press drop.

    In the case of the speedrings, it is in contact with metal on both sides and will not do the same damage as the sharp side of a bushing washer.

    If you are using precision trucks or axles that have a tight radius shoulder you may have the bearings or speedrings jam on the axle, so in the case of precise axles, have the sharp edge on the bearing and the round edge on the axle-to-hanger shoulder


    We usually keep the round side on the bushing when it comes to flat washers.
    In the case of cupped washers, the sharp side is larger than the diameter of a bushing and will not damage the bushing, unless a larger (non-stock) bushing is used like Venom Eliminators, these do get cut up on cupped washers, but perform just as good if not better without washers. In this case I am referring about the bushing that is squished between the baseplate and the hanger.
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    Default Re: Which way for Speed Rings!

    if your hangers arent faced stock or you didnt face them with a Counterbore

    this might happen

    http://www.silverfishlongboarding.co...tuck-axle.html

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    Default Re: Which way for Speed Rings!

    Just put them on..
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    You can't be serious. April fool's day was yesterday.
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    and your 24...?
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    Default Re: Which way for Speed Rings!

    Dont care if he's trolling, there is a proper way of doing this on axles with a really tight tolerances.

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    Default Re: Which way for Speed Rings!

    Quote Originally Posted by AJ View Post
    Dont care if he's trolling, there is a proper way of doing this on axles with a really tight tolerances.
    Looks like I've been doing it wrong.

    With my newfound understanding, if I may expand on AJ's points:

    Obviously, you should have faced hangers. If not, here's a thread for a DIY: http://www.silverfishlongboarding.co...er-facing.html

    I'm sure there must be a purpose to the round side versus the flat side, otherwise they would have made speedrings with two flat sides.

    The ultimate goal is to make sure the wheel doesn't have any torsional motion. The rounded side obviously has a smaller contact patch than the flat side. If you have the rounded side facing the inner race of the bearing, the contact region of the speedring might not interact correctly with the inner race of the bearing, giving you the potential for some torsional movement. Whereas if you have the rounded side facing the faced hanger, there's a much wider contact patch for the round side to interface with, and the flat edge of the speedring is more consistently interfacing with the inner race of the bearing.

    This being the case, the speedring between bearing and nut should also have the flat side pointing toward the bearing. In conclusion, both flat sides of the speedring should contact the inner race of the bearing.

    I'm assuming this would allow us to have an even more precise and therefore more stable (slightly so, but still more precise and stable) ride.
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    Default Re: Which way for Speed Rings!

    Quote Originally Posted by distractingphoenix View Post
    Looks like I've been doing it wrong.

    With my newfound understanding, if I may expand on AJ's points:

    Obviously, you should have faced hangers. If not, here's a thread for a DIY: http://www.silverfishlongboarding.co...er-facing.html

    I'm sure there must be a purpose to the round side versus the flat side, otherwise they would have made speedrings with two flat sides.

    The ultimate goal is to make sure the wheel doesn't have any torsional motion. The rounded side obviously has a smaller contact patch than the flat side. If you have the rounded side facing the inner race of the bearing, the contact region of the speedring might not interact correctly with the inner race of the bearing, giving you the potential for some torsional movement. Whereas if you have the rounded side facing the faced hanger, there's a much wider contact patch for the round side to interface with, and the flat edge of the speedring is more consistently interfacing with the inner race of the bearing.

    This being the case, the speedring between bearing and nut should also have the flat side pointing toward the bearing. In conclusion, both flat sides of the speedring should contact the inner race of the bearing.

    I'm assuming this would allow us to have an even more precise and therefore more stable (slightly so, but still more precise and stable) ride.
    Quote Originally Posted by AJ View Post
    Washer and rings are press-cut with a several ton die, that can usually cut hundreds in one press drop.

    In the case of the speedrings, it is in contact with metal on both sides and will not do the same damage as the sharp side of a bushing washer.

    If you are using precision trucks or axles that have a tight radius shoulder you may have the bearings or speedrings jam on the axle, so in the case of precise axles, have the sharp edge on the bearing and the round edge on the axle-to-hanger shoulder


    We usually keep the round side on the bushing when it comes to flat washers.
    In the case of cupped washers, the sharp side is larger than the diameter of a bushing and will not damage the bushing, unless a larger (non-stock) bushing is used like Venom Eliminators, these do get cut up on cupped washers, but perform just as good if not better without washers. In this case I am referring about the bushing that is squished between the baseplate and the hanger.
    Thanks for the help that all makes sense, appreciate the input and help.

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    Default Re: Which way for Speed Rings!

    All that scientific stuff means doodlysquat. This isn't rocket science. Facing hangers, counterboring, blah blah blah, yada yada yada. The dude wants to ride. Put 'em on and ride.


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    Default Re: Which way for Speed Rings!

    The truth of it all is that there are different sides of a speed ring and I would assume that they wouldn't make it that way if it didn't need to be. For all you haters who say it's a stupid question, answer that as to why the sides are different? I understand it may not make a difference but they do in fact have different sides.

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    Default Re: Which way for Speed Rings!

    Because when they punch them they put pressure on the top of the sheet, causing it to curve a bit (the rounded side) as the other side that doesn't have something pushing it, remains flat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by el gigantor View Post
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    Default Re: Which way for Speed Rings!

    Ive found that faced hangers make speedrings unneccesary. Anyone else?
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