Reversing Randal Kingpins

[Jorelle]

First of all, the Randal truck is already a reverse kingpin geometry truck.
What is the difference if I flip it to conventional?

Two different Scenarios:
A) A cruising board
B) A slide deck


I really would try it myself but I don't want to waste the time today and I have them dialed in how I like it at the moment.

[Bomb303]

flipping the kingpin (which im assuming you mean...) is not the same as turning the trucks around 180 degrees. flipping the kingpins puts the threaded part of the kingpin facing towards the ground when riding, as opposed to having the threaded part in the baseplate. having this threading in the baseplate can cause small amounts of play at the weakest point of the kingpin (threads), which will be more likely to break the kingpin at the threads. Flipping the kingpins is supposed to make them less likely to break.

flipping the truck to "conventional" (still not the same as indys, tracker, etc) will just turn the opposite way you lean.

[partninjas]

If you flip them around the board will steer opposite of the direction you lean. Same thing will happen with Indys/trackers/bennets if you flip them around too.

Randals and Indys/trackers/bennets are different in more ways than just KP orientation. It's the whole geometry of the truck.

[Brute379]

Flipping the kingpins is supposed to make them less likely to break.

flipping the truck to "conventional" will just turn the opposite way you lean.

And easier to change bushings since you dont have to remove the bolt.

[Bomb303]

And easier to change bushings since you dont have to remove the bolt.

yes, this too. much easier.

[Jorelle]

I meant flipping the kingpin yes. Not sure if we had a misunderstanding but doubt that would change the way it would turn. I'm not looking to turn the whole truck around, just the kingpin itself, you know what I mean lol.

Edit: I might've gotten my terms mixed up, and... apparently I don't know the difference between conventional and reverse trucks. Anyone mind clearing this up for me while were on it?

[Bomb303]

Never mind, misunderstood last post.

[enemy combatant]

Both Randal types and "conventional" types like Indy's are based on the Chicago Roller Skate Company's pivoting hanger design. "Reverse kingpin" is a somewhat misleading appellation and both Indy's and Randals have the pivot cup on the outside ends of the board. The major difference between the two is the position of the axle on the hanger with Indys being further forward of the kingpin and Randals axle being behind it.

If you were to mount your Randal trucks (or Indy's for that matter) with the pivot cups on the inside then when you leaned left the board would turn right and you would get thrown off. At least that is what has happened to me every time I've mounted them that way!

[enemy combatant]

Randals and Indys/trackers/bennets are different in more ways than just KP orientation. It's the whole geometry of the truck.

Not really. It is still the basic Chicago geometry. Many "conventional" trucks like Indy's and Bennetts still adhere to the old roller skate design by having pivot pins oddly steep and out of alignment with the actual pivot axis of the hanger, but some (like certain models of Trackers) do not have that steep of a pivot pin and conventional Mission Ones have the pivot pin in complete alignment with the pivot axis just as most Randal types do.

[ChicagoBoarder21]

yes, this too. much easier.

I know I have a 2 inch kingpin but i'm to lazy to take off my baseplates...