Is sliding on a top mount going to be different from a drop thru?

**MegaChron** · 11-18-2009 06:23 PM

Im just asking because i want to expand my quiver and all the boards i've owned since learning to slide have been dropthrus, and i just want to know if there will be a huge difference between getting a topmount to slide compared to a dropthru.

**Bombsquad_Manny** · 11-18-2009 06:27 PM

It's going to be a little harder but will feel better.
Watch out for high siding.

**MegaChron** · 11-18-2009 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by Bombsquad_Manny

It's going to be a little harder but will feel better.
Watch out for high siding.

is harder to slide in general, or just to brake into the slide?

**anatharc** · 11-18-2009 06:46 PM

topmounts will grip better. so they will be harder to initiate into a slide.

**Cann0n** · 11-18-2009 06:48 PM

The main diffrence with top mount sliding is that the board will tip over easier versus a drop-thru. You just have to make sure you keep all 4 wheels on the ground distribute your weight smoothly.

To better understand this, step on the side of a skateboard. Apply weight until the other side of the board lifts, lifting the wheels off the ground. Drop-thru's won't tip as easy.

You shouldn't have a big issue with a bit of practice.

**DHBM** · 11-18-2009 06:51 PM

lower center of gravity on the drop through = less traction = easier slides.

top mount is the opposite

^^^so it is for me at least^^^

**Kenny_Ledesma** · 11-18-2009 06:56 PM

Yes.

10peepsovercomplicating

**BOZZ Savage** · 11-18-2009 10:01 PM

Originally Posted by DHBM

lower center of gravity on the drop through = less traction = easier slides.

top mount is the opposite

^^^so it is for me at least^^^

How does a lower center of gravity equate to less grip?

Ian

**jaytoo** · 11-18-2009 10:54 PM

Originally Posted by BOZZ Savage

How does a lower center of gravity equate to less grip?

Ian

When you lean on a topmount, your weight is distributed more to the side you're leaning.
Which means there's a lot of friction on two of the 4 wheels, and less on the other two.

When you lean on a dropthrough, your weight is more evenly distributed over all 4 wheels. Which means there's less friction on all 4 wheels = easier slide.

Also, since dropthroughs are lower, it's easier to kinda "push" the board out in front of you when sliding. This applies to and lowered deck.

**BOZZ Savage** · 11-18-2009 11:04 PM

So it's basically opposite to cars? How much would a 1/2" riser have on sliding if everything else was the same?

Ian

**stirallyracer** · 11-19-2009 01:25 AM

you can't think of longboards as cars, cause cars do their own turning with no outside forces. longboards turn with external forces from the rider. riders push laterally on longboards to slide them, so a higher top mount would want to roll over, where as a lower deck would be more inclined to slide.

**Big Dev** · 11-19-2009 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by jaytoo@gmail.com

When you lean on a topmount, your weight is distributed more to the side you're leaning.
Which means there's a lot of friction on two of the 4 wheels, and less on the other two.

When you lean on a dropthrough, your weight is more evenly distributed over all 4 wheels. Which means there's less friction on all 4 wheels = easier slide.
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thats not true.

When sliding a top mount board, you as the rider are above the wheels. Therefore, you need to use vertical force to push something sideways, which is a difficult task.

On a drop through board YOU as the rider are lower, but the wheels are in the same place as they'd be on a top mount board. Because YOU as the rider are lower, you are able to exert much more horizontal force (as opposed to vertical force) on the wheel, thus making it easier to push the wheel sideways.

Also, @DBHM, a lower center of gravity does not necessarily equate to less traction. In fact, I don't think it has anything to do at all with your traction.

EDIT: as for the riser question: You would be higher above the wheels, therefore it would be more difficult.

**BOZZ Savage** · 11-19-2009 05:42 PM

Ok, thanks!

Ian

**snozzboarder55** · 11-19-2009 05:46 PM

the "topmounts grip better" is a general rule. a lot of it comes from the complete setup. my topmount with indys and radiused 4 prez drifts easier than my buddies drop through with randal style trucks and round lipped wheels.

**speshlspeclsteak** · 11-19-2009 05:50 PM

if you want the best grip you should get a landyachtz dh race and flip it upside down. it will also allow you to see further ahead

**urbanasultvehicleuav** · 11-19-2009 06:01 PM

personal preference here but i cant stand sliding a drop through

**BOZZ Savage** · 11-19-2009 06:07 PM

Well I don't want to hijack this thread if it seems to be going that way.

Ian

**mateo** · 11-19-2009 06:07 PM

Originally Posted by speshlspeclsteak

if you want the best grip you should get a landyachtz dh race and flip it upside down. it will also allow you to see further ahead

best idea ever

**MegaChron** · 11-19-2009 09:25 PM

Originally Posted by BOZZ Savage

Well I don't want to hijack this thread if it seems to be going that way.

Ian

go ahead! take it, i got the info i needed a while ago lol

**killdozer** · 11-21-2009 04:45 PM

I enjoy sliding on a top mount more. I don't know why. Also when I get my Avenger to break into a drift it feels more controlled transferring from grip to drift and then back again. You just have to keep more of your weight centered on a top mount to get even wear on your wheels. If you are too far over and you tip you will get bad uneven wear on the sides of your wheels. Not a hard adjustment though. You just have to be more conscious of what your doing.