The effects of coning on wheels?.......

[kmarc86]

I have been sliding now for about two months. I started out doing really badly. Then, I started sliding well (no falls, comfortably). Now, i find that i am stopping suddenly when I am expecting to continue the slide for a little while longer and I'm having to try harder to whip the board around the full 180 degrees. When I try to slide with more force, the board either stays behind or shoots out from under me without me on it. Initially, I chalked it up to a bad day and then a bad week but for going on four days now............. I mean come on! I've noticed my wheels are coning and, in some areas, disfigured with small divots and scarring Does the drastic change in wheel shape contribute to sliding like crap? Please, watch the vid below and provide a little feed back.

YouTube - Rough Day Longboarding

[SteveC]

coning can actually increase traction, however it is usually found on wheels that have had their edges hammered, and a lot of grip comes from the square edge of the wheel...

[boarderaholic]

Moar funtimes happen when wheels cone!

[SteveC]

road get washed clean recently?

[snozzboarder55]

in my opinion a wheels real potential shines when its coned, of course there is a limit to that.

[Cann0n]

coning can actually increase traction, however it is usually found on wheels that have had their edges hammered, and a lot of grip comes from the square edge of the wheel...

CarveUSA makes coned wheels. 80mm /84mm 80a's. They are tits. I love them.

[flannelman]

and so does pocket pistols, for traction.

[Gearfire]

From what I've experienced and observed of coned wheels it makes extremes of the weight you apply. For instance if you throw your weight way up and get as minimal of an amount as possible, the wheel relaxes into its cone shape- dramatically decreasing the contact surface. Fast slides. Press more weight than you are made of into it, and the natural cone shape pushes the larger outer lip harder into the street than a fresh wheel, because the weight you apply forces the wheel to deform in an exaggerated way to reach the smaller diameter portion of the wheel over the bearing to the street.

It's wonderful, but it requires more weight control. Something that comes with long practice. In your video it seems like you're having trouble keeping yourself centered between your trucks. One thing I see you doing in your pendies is not weighing your new front end (the back you swung around) to grip it and unweight the front your just threw into the back. You're leaning waaaaaaay back into it, so much so that it gets away from you. When you're near the 180 you need to weight the previously back end and crank it over, and shoot the previously front end back around while unweighing it as much as possible. It's weird to push weight into the board on the dropknee side rather than unweigh, which is what the position naturally does, but it's possible and it's what you need to do. The more weight you take off the non-drop foot in the near-180 position the more it does it for you because of the forward momentum, as long as you're turning your drop foot to crank it over and around. The non-drop foot guides it back regular, just as the drop-foot guides it into the 180 to begin with.

It's totally possibly to do super quick same-lane pendies at that speed you took if you get rapid weight control down.

[keef]

In my experience, coned wheels slide better. I certainly have to watch the amount of grip I have carving at high speed on worn in wheels.
As far as your slide technique goes, I think the only thing you are doing wrong is going too slowly. You need more speed to pendy, which is why you get stuck after turning 180*, you simply don't have enough speed to break traction and slide back to regular.
More speed will help. If it feels a bit fast try grabbing a rail for a bit of extra confidence the first few times. I nearly always hold my board when sliding at high speed.
If you still aren't going fast enough you may find that you slide back part of the way into regular, but not all the way, at which point you may grip up, and carry on ACROSS the road so be ready to correct your course!!

Hope this helps.
Don't forget to have fun.

[AlG]

coned will help you slide better so it's not that. the same thing happened to me. I learned pendies one day lost them for a few days then they came back. it's a complex move in the beginning as Gearfire mentioned there is a lot going with your weight and moving your body around. Stay focused and positive and you'll nail it. you've already done it but it sounds like now you're overthinking it. From the vid it looks like you're leaning too far back on the pendy's and not centered over your board. Find a steeper hill, it will help a lot. Good Luck!

[Blix]

Keep your sliding hand way closer to your deck for those pendys, it will make a huge difference.

[stringtheory]

Use your shoulders and head more. I noticed when you coleman/pendy you are looking straight down the hill, which is good for knowing whee you are going. But when you slide, where your head and shoulders go, your board follows. Maybe try the ol' "punch the parrot" method. Meaning use your non sliding hand to wind up. As you carve left and initiate the slide, swing your right hand left across your face and toward your left shoulder...let your head follow your hand, looking left. When you want to bring the pendy back, swing your arm back to the right and follow with your head (now looking back down the hill). It works amazingly well.

Also, I noticed you're running out from your slides...moar speed!

[floyd0matic]

Keep your sliding hand way closer to your deck for those pendys, it will make a huge difference.

also helps with the board shooting under your feet dilema too.

[Big Dev]

also helps with the board shooting under your feet dilema too.

your sig is blasphemy

EDIT: It makes me smile that one day, when your sig is different, somebody won't understand this comment. myess.

[flannelman]

yea! its funny to see that pros ask "noob" questions when they were new. funny how that works