Kracked Skulls

**djona** · 06-26-2007 03:56 PM

Originally Posted by big_loaf

pretty sure I don't like that new scimitar design though. personally i think the "bolt" parts would effect foot placement, and i don't see the advantage of having them set up in that way. still a rad board though, and i still love mine.

the bolted risers help eliminate deck torsion,
which was the main issue keeping most from dh-ing KS

**big_loaf** · 06-26-2007 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by djona

the bolted risers help eliminate deck torsion,
which was the main issue keeping most from dh-ing KS

ahhh, i get it now. that makes sense. i'm glad i got mine before this change though, as i don't use my Scimitar for speed whatsoever, and i enjoy my ample foot-space

and photonicgirl, i found those pictures for you....

**Lee W** · 06-26-2007 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by zagfan5

so a while back in this thread someone said they got a 38" board custom made for em

i was thinking about doing this because i dont want a huuge board. i want something that i can strap to a backpack and walk into a store comfortable

i was thinking a 38 would be a perfect size for me

what are your thoughts?

Should be a good idea, although it probably won't have the same flex as the 46". My friend has a 38" model in the mail right now, so as soon as it arrives and I get some time on it I'll report back. I've tried a few M1's and a Scimitar, so I'll have a good comparison.

**UofMFan53** · 06-26-2007 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by Lee W

Should be a good idea, although it probably won't have the same flex as the 46". My friend has a 38" model in the mail right now, so as soon as it arrives and I get some time on it I'll report back. I've tried a few M1's and a Scimitar, so I'll have a good comparison.

I think he adjusts the width of the board with the length so that the flex shouldn't be too much different...

**breakfast** · 06-26-2007 08:47 PM

A few questions.

I'm just looking to get into longboarding now.

I think the M1 is a steal of a deal but I'm also wondering about a few things:

Where can I see the specs of the Scimitar?

Is it worth it to pay more to get bigger cutouts to fit in bigger wheels (77mm I believe was stated earlier)? What are the bigger wheels going to do for me?

And then overall, which KS board would you reccomend to me and why?

Edit: I'm 6' tall and about 150 lbs

**breakfast** · 06-28-2007 12:31 PM

Cancel that, I ordered a 46" KS M1 Scimitar with quartz sand.

Hopefully it will be here by the end of next week!!

**photonicgirl** · 06-28-2007 06:06 PM

Originally Posted by big_loaf

ahhh, i get it now. that makes sense. i'm glad i got mine before this change though, as i don't use my Scimitar for speed whatsoever, and i enjoy my ample foot-space

and photonicgirl, i found those pictures for you....

Killer pics! Wow!

KS rocks, you'll be very very stoked.

Jules

**Quijanoth** · 06-29-2007 12:22 PM

Now, let me qualify my post by saying I know a lot of people LOVE Kracked Skulls. For those people, please read only the words in BOLD. For everyone else, I think it is important to give the crust along with the loaf such as it is...I will further qualify this post by saying that I don't have a KS in hand yet, but I think my experience with KS thus far MIGHT (and I will double emphasize MIGHT) affect your decision to buy.

K. So, you're probably visiting this thread because you are thinking about buying a KS, and I'm sure if you've asked for the Fish's advice on which board to purchase first, KS has been mentioned. The strong points often mentioned will be the quality of the board (which, as I mentioned, I cannot comment on), the cost (which is very good), and the speed with which the person making the purchase received their board. For me, personally, I take issue with the last claim.

You MIGHT get your board quickly. What Mr. Yowell doesn't mention on the website is that if you use the "e-check" feature, that your board will not ship until the payment clears Paypal, which can take as long as five days (it was four in my case). Mr. Yowell explained that he had been burned by people cancelling payment after the board was shipped and that he would not be fooled twice. I appreciate his caution...admire it, even...but not telling the customer about this potential delay up front has probably cost him some repeat business from me. Fact is, I bought the KS primarily as a first board because I couldn't bear to wait for a LBL...KS's expedient shipping was a deal maker for me.
So, to stave off the haters, I'll again state that this is not a shot against Mr. Yowell as a person. As I mentioned, I understand his motives as a business, but am displeased as a customer. Nobody likes to inherit the distrust a business owner has for previous scam artists. In the interest of getting the most out of your KS purchase, be sure to use a credit card or other form of instant payment (if there is one...) if you choose to make a purchase to insure the often-mentioned fast shipping with Kracked Skulls. Sorry if I ruffled any feathers.

**Acedio** · 06-29-2007 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Quijanoth

Now, let me qualify my post by saying I know a lot of people LOVE Kracked Skulls. For those people, please read only the words in BOLD. For everyone else, I think it is important to give the crust along with the loaf such as it is...I will further qualify this post by saying that I don't have a KS in hand yet, but I think my experience with KS thus far MIGHT (and I will double emphasize MIGHT) affect your decision to buy.

K. So, you're probably visiting this thread because you are thinking about buying a KS, and I'm sure if you've asked for the Fish's advice on which board to purchase first, KS has been mentioned. The strong points often mentioned will be the quality of the board (which, as I mentioned, I cannot comment on), the cost (which is very good), and the speed with which the person making the purchase received their board. For me, personally, I take issue with the last claim.

You MIGHT get your board quickly. What Mr. Yowell doesn't mention on the website is that if you use the "e-check" feature, that your board will not ship until the payment clears Paypal, which can take as long as five days (it was four in my case). Mr. Yowell explained that he had been burned by people cancelling payment after the board was shipped and that he would not be fooled twice. I appreciate his caution...admire it, even...but not telling the customer about this potential delay up front has probably cost him some repeat business from me. Fact is, I bought the KS primarily as a first board because I couldn't bear to wait for a LBL...KS's expedient shipping was a deal maker for me.
So, to stave off the haters, I'll again state that this is not a shot against Mr. Yowell as a person. As I mentioned, I understand his motives as a business, but am displeased as a customer. Nobody likes to inherit the distrust a business owner has for previous scam artists. In the interest of getting the most out of your KS purchase, be sure to use a credit card or other form of instant payment (if there is one...) if you choose to make a purchase to insure the often-mentioned fast shipping with Kracked Skulls. Sorry if I ruffled any feathers.

I had this problem as well. Trust me, though, it's worth the wait ;D

**breakfast** · 06-29-2007 01:17 PM

Originally Posted by Quijanoth

Now, let me qualify my post by saying I know a lot of people LOVE Kracked Skulls. For those people, please read only the words in BOLD. For everyone else, I think it is important to give the crust along with the loaf such as it is...I will further qualify this post by saying that I don't have a KS in hand yet, but I think my experience with KS thus far MIGHT (and I will double emphasize MIGHT) affect your decision to buy.

K. So, you're probably visiting this thread because you are thinking about buying a KS, and I'm sure if you've asked for the Fish's advice on which board to purchase first, KS has been mentioned. The strong points often mentioned will be the quality of the board (which, as I mentioned, I cannot comment on), the cost (which is very good), and the speed with which the person making the purchase received their board. For me, personally, I take issue with the last claim.

You MIGHT get your board quickly. What Mr. Yowell doesn't mention on the website is that if you use the "e-check" feature, that your board will not ship until the payment clears Paypal, which can take as long as five days (it was four in my case). Mr. Yowell explained that he had been burned by people cancelling payment after the board was shipped and that he would not be fooled twice. I appreciate his caution...admire it, even...but not telling the customer about this potential delay up front has probably cost him some repeat business from me. Fact is, I bought the KS primarily as a first board because I couldn't bear to wait for a LBL...KS's expedient shipping was a deal maker for me.
So, to stave off the haters, I'll again state that this is not a shot against Mr. Yowell as a person. As I mentioned, I understand his motives as a business, but am displeased as a customer. Nobody likes to inherit the distrust a business owner has for previous scam artists. In the interest of getting the most out of your KS purchase, be sure to use a credit card or other form of instant payment (if there is one...) if you choose to make a purchase to insure the often-mentioned fast shipping with Kracked Skulls. Sorry if I ruffled any feathers.

Just so you know, 99.99% of all online vendors will NEVER EVER EVER send their product before an ECheck clears because it is too easy to be ripped off. You really shouldn't use that as a shot against his company.

**photonicgirl** · 06-29-2007 06:12 PM

Originally Posted by Quijanoth

Now, let me qualify my post by saying I know a lot of people LOVE Kracked Skulls. For those people, please read only the words in BOLD. For everyone else, I think it is important to give the crust along with the loaf such as it is...I will further qualify this post by saying that I don't have a KS in hand yet, but I think my experience with KS thus far MIGHT (and I will double emphasize MIGHT) affect your decision to buy.

K. So, you're probably visiting this thread because you are thinking about buying a KS, and I'm sure if you've asked for the Fish's advice on which board to purchase first, KS has been mentioned. The strong points often mentioned will be the quality of the board (which, as I mentioned, I cannot comment on), the cost (which is very good), and the speed with which the person making the purchase received their board. For me, personally, I take issue with the last claim.

You MIGHT get your board quickly. What Mr. Yowell doesn't mention on the website is that if you use the "e-check" feature, that your board will not ship until the payment clears Paypal, which can take as long as five days (it was four in my case). Mr. Yowell explained that he had been burned by people cancelling payment after the board was shipped and that he would not be fooled twice. I appreciate his caution...admire it, even...but not telling the customer about this potential delay up front has probably cost him some repeat business from me. Fact is, I bought the KS primarily as a first board because I couldn't bear to wait for a LBL...KS's expedient shipping was a deal maker for me.
So, to stave off the haters, I'll again state that this is not a shot against Mr. Yowell as a person. As I mentioned, I understand his motives as a business, but am displeased as a customer. Nobody likes to inherit the distrust a business owner has for previous scam artists. In the interest of getting the most out of your KS purchase, be sure to use a credit card or other form of instant payment (if there is one...) if you choose to make a purchase to insure the often-mentioned fast shipping with Kracked Skulls. Sorry if I ruffled any feathers.

My feathers aren't ruffled. I paid through Paypal and got my board in three days. In fact, when I called KS William was at the post office with my board. That's the same day I ordered it online.

Tell me, is there a store where you can take product without having your credit card clear? I haven't heard of one yet. Seems to me that whether you are ordering from Mile High, Skates on Haight, Daddies, or Dregs, your money has to be in their bank before their product will be in your hands. Is that a problem? I think not.

William is the FASTEST shipper in the West because he only ships Priority Mail, not UPS. And he ships to New York, which is where I live. My board arrived within three days of ordering it. It was here on the third day, I put it together and had to ride it in the basement due to snow. My only gripe was that I had to wait to get it on the pavement.

Jules

**Quijanoth** · 06-29-2007 08:36 PM

A. I understand exactly how Paypal works. His policy isn't mentioned on the website. He only mentioned it when I contacted him about a tracking number. And I've done many transactions on ebay that ship before confirmation clears, in fact, at one time, KS did too. It costs 25 bucks to cancel a transaction, and in the event of fraud, the amount lost is refundable by Paypal if the seller gets the screw...so, am I going to deal with the legal ramifications of tricking him for a board when they have all of my banking and CC information? Probably not, but the point is, for me, I paid a premium in time because someone else was willing to rip him off at some time in the past. If my original post is read completely, I think I've said my piece in a civilized manner and feel my point is valid. All respect if you disagree.

B. I didn't order from daddiesboardshop or LBL or any of the other places in large part specifically because it was expressed by a number of members how quickly KS gets the goods to you. I assure you, in the future...I will.

C. I'm not ripping on his business. I'm actually still pretty excited about getting my first long board, and I'm confident it'll live up to expectations. I'm informing other buyers interested in buying from them about a specific business practice and sharing my personal experience with the company. It's a courtesy to others which should, in my opinion, be detailed on the KS website. The transaction wasn't to my satisfaction. Buyers should get to hear about all KS experiences...not just the ones recounted by people who sell his product by proxy or get them on the cheap. If he does put the info on the site...awesome. Then everything I've said no longer applies, right? But it doesn't change my experience at all...which is all that I have talked about.

D. Much love.

**killerbootsman** · 06-29-2007 09:38 PM

Originally Posted by Quijanoth

Now, let me qualify my post by saying I know a lot of people LOVE Kracked Skulls. For those people, please read only the words in BOLD. For everyone else, I think it is important to give the crust along with the loaf such as it is...I will further qualify this post by saying that I don't have a KS in hand yet, but I think my experience with KS thus far MIGHT (and I will double emphasize MIGHT) affect your decision to buy.

K. So, you're probably visiting this thread because you are thinking about buying a KS, and I'm sure if you've asked for the Fish's advice on which board to purchase first, KS has been mentioned. The strong points often mentioned will be the quality of the board (which, as I mentioned, I cannot comment on), the cost (which is very good), and the speed with which the person making the purchase received their board. For me, personally, I take issue with the last claim.

You MIGHT get your board quickly. What Mr. Yowell doesn't mention on the website is that if you use the "e-check" feature, that your board will not ship until the payment clears Paypal, which can take as long as five days (it was four in my case). Mr. Yowell explained that he had been burned by people cancelling payment after the board was shipped and that he would not be fooled twice. I appreciate his caution...admire it, even...but not telling the customer about this potential delay up front has probably cost him some repeat business from me. Fact is, I bought the KS primarily as a first board because I couldn't bear to wait for a LBL...KS's expedient shipping was a deal maker for me.
So, to stave off the haters, I'll again state that this is not a shot against Mr. Yowell as a person. As I mentioned, I understand his motives as a business, but am displeased as a customer. Nobody likes to inherit the distrust a business owner has for previous scam artists. In the interest of getting the most out of your KS purchase, be sure to use a credit card or other form of instant payment (if there is one...) if you choose to make a purchase to insure the often-mentioned fast shipping with Kracked Skulls. Sorry if I ruffled any feathers.

I don't get it??

You are displeased with the service, because the he waited for a check to clear? I thought it was common knowledge that it takes time for checks to clear. Take this complaint up with Paypal, not with the business.

**breakfast** · 06-29-2007 10:31 PM

Originally Posted by Quijanoth

A. I understand exactly how Paypal works. His policy isn't mentioned on the website. He only mentioned it when I contacted him about a tracking number. And I've done many transactions on ebay that ship before confirmation clears, in fact, at one time, KS did too. It costs 25 bucks to cancel a transaction, and in the event of fraud, the amount lost is refundable by Paypal if the seller gets the screw...so, am I going to deal with the legal ramifications of tricking him for a board when they have all of my banking and CC information? Probably not, but the point is, for me, I paid a premium in time because someone else was willing to rip him off at some time in the past. If my original post is read completely, I think I've said my piece in a civilized manner and feel my point is valid. All respect if you disagree.

B. I didn't order from daddiesboardshop or LBL or any of the other places in large part specifically because it was expressed by a number of members how quickly KS gets the goods to you. I assure you, in the future...I will.

C. I'm not ripping on his business. I'm actually still pretty excited about getting my first long board, and I'm confident it'll live up to expectations. I'm informing other buyers interested in buying from them about a specific business practice and sharing my personal experience with the company. It's a courtesy to others which should, in my opinion, be detailed on the KS website. The transaction wasn't to my satisfaction. Buyers should get to hear about all KS experiences...not just the ones recounted by people who sell his product by proxy or get them on the cheap. If he does put the info on the site...awesome. Then everything I've said no longer applies, right? But it doesn't change my experience at all...which is all that I have talked about.

D. Much love.

A. You paid the same thing everyone else did.

B. You sure are telling the man. Way to support a small business run by a legit guy. This is clearly your first purchase with an echeck over the internet (or at least with a merchant who has half of a brain) because it is a common practice to hold product until a cheque clears.

C. You are ripping on his business. You're practically calling him shady because he likes to make sure he doesn't get screwed out of money that he worked hard for.

D.

**djona** · 06-29-2007 10:50 PM

legitimate complaint,

would some fine print ease the horror of waiting a few days?
"products will be shipped when e-check payments are cleared"

just seems like good policy for a small business like KS to wait for it to clear..

**GoGreenLongboarding** · 06-29-2007 10:51 PM

nobody ships untill an e-check clears. I opened an ebay store for a local skateshop years back (I only worked for about a year and then handed it over to them) and everyone who paid with e-check expected that their stuff wouldn't ship untill it cleared. never did I have to mention it to anyone or in any listings.

as far as i know the only advantage to using e-check rather than an instant bank transfer is the seller pays a capped $5 max fee for the e-check. is there a reason you didn't pay with a credit/debit card or instant direct bank transfer, or did you just not know that the e-check takes time?

**Thrills4Hills** · 06-29-2007 11:44 PM

Oddly enough, I was at Mr. Yowell's house today! Took a look at his whole setup, some of his boards in the production process. Really legit stuff, really nice guy. Rode around on one of his personal boards. Had a good time, I'm sorry to say I didn't buy that day and I may have wasted his time (sorry William) but I do definately plan on buying his newer, stronger model (forgot the name) within a couple weeks. Wondeful boards, highly recommended. And as for these stupid complaints about payment/delivery dates, shut up, I think you should.

**breakfast** · 06-29-2007 11:54 PM

M1 Scimitar? Protype?

**Thrills4Hills** · 06-30-2007 12:07 AM

Not really prototype. The design is still dynamic and subject to change as far as I can tell, but I guess recently he sells more of the scimitar(thanks for the name) than the standard M1

**big_loaf** · 06-30-2007 12:41 AM

Quijanoth's post was a valid one, i don't think he was ripping on the company whatsoever. it's not like he brought anything to our attention that we didn't already know; every online company waits for payment to clear until they ship product, that's a fact.

and if you thought his post was mean, read my review from a handful of pages back. it's 100% honest from a very picky rider!
my review isn't meant to be "mean" as some might call it, but it is....well....honest.....but every chance i get i recommend Kracked Skulls boards, and i wear my KS shirts so much, William should be paying me for advertising