NOOB Questions Answered By Dopamine David

**ntthrepo** · 01-26-2009 03:31 AM

Originally Posted by KAKA

hey dave i was just wandering if u know what was going on with the fish right now
i mean have u seen the u arent real skateboarders thread?
wtf? did we all just have are period?
also how come i can't get a grom biz c2 in australia without shipping it to aus from the US
isn't the company Australian

yeah and we went to the store but there were all out of tampons
dam

**K-SHIZZ** · 01-26-2009 07:07 AM

chaser: i ride the evo and i love it. like i said, im 130 and have no problem doing anything with it. i've also ridden the hellcat and liked that too. it felt quicker and mor agile than the evo. however i havent had any extensive riding with this board so i cant give a real proper review on it. so i definately reccomend the evo and would say the hellcat is an excellent choice. But those boards you make sound preatty epic i must say so i wouldnt be surprised if you end up liking the ones you make better.

KAKA: according to my calendar it is infact that time of the month again.

but on a more serious note, it seems like ever since malakai dominated the "you arent real skateboarders" thread, people have decided that angry threads are useful in some way to the fish. it seems like instead of coming on here to get good info and talk about longboarding, people are jsut getting on here so they can vent about random stufff.

ntthrepo: thats why you stock up in advance.

**TexasBomber** · 01-26-2009 08:39 AM

A buddy of mine gave me a set of Bear pumpkins.
Can I run them on Randals?

**mc99david** · 01-26-2009 09:05 AM

texas bomber: yes, they will fit just fine

**mc99david** · 01-26-2009 09:08 AM

kaka: i have no idea about the grombiz thing, i'm assuming they are made in australia, but their distributer is in the US, and maybe dont have an australian distributer yet

and as far as the you arent a skateboarder thread. this happens more often in the winter, cause people cant get out and skate, so they get ticked off over nothing on the internet instead.

**chaser** · 01-26-2009 05:52 PM

well my boss just gave me 20 sq. yards of carbon fiber and 16 of fiberglass. and three full sheets of spyder foam that we didnt need so i might just make my own board again this season, although i is a little cold out with the snow here in wa so im not sure about trying to laminate right now. ill keep researching and if i end up making my own deck again this year you will see it up here labled as a GLORIA custom.

**Chaunce** · 01-26-2009 06:41 PM

Dopamine David: I'm messing around with board-building, and my neighbor is extremely familiar with construction -- he owns his own business, though I'm not exactly sure what he does.. Anyway, I asked him about 1/8" thick sheets of wood, and he said they were called doorskins, thin sheets of wood that are very flexible, thus the reason they are chosen for board building. I was wondering if doorskin was the proper term for this thickness? I don't want to walk out of a store with the wrong materials.

Also, I assumed when you press a board, the grain of all the plys would be facing one way. Then I came upon a thread in which people were talking about how to lay it out, ie. vertical-horizontal-horizontal-vertical. Could you clarify this for me? (Not sure if I got the terminology right, hope you understood my question.)

K-SHIZZ: What exactly is a bert slide? I was out practicing colemans today (thanks again for that superb advice) when a few 'kickflippers' from my neighborhood saw me, and one of them commented on my bert slide.

**K-SHIZZ** · 01-26-2009 07:53 PM

chaunce: bert slide:

YouTube - bert slide

also if i could comment on the vertical/horizontal thing- a vertical ply is when the grain runs from tip to tail of the board and horizontal is from side to side. usually builders put in horizontal plys to give the board a bit better flex. so a board like this:

v
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will be stiffer than
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yarrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrimean!?

**tinypete** · 01-26-2009 07:55 PM

Kyle, the kid in that video looks like Braden combined with Jase!

**Chaunce** · 01-26-2009 08:01 PM

K-SHIZZ: So they're basically the same thing, but the coleman is used on longboards to maintain or lose speed?

Thanks again.

**K-SHIZZ** · 01-26-2009 08:09 PM

tinypete: I KNOW!!!! its crazy. but jase probably cant do that

chaunce: usually to burn speed before a tight corner or to do some steezy drifting. like a coleman half way then go around a corner backwards, then pendy back. but thats just for sh|ts and giggles.

**shrimfririceeeee** · 01-26-2009 10:00 PM

the spherical bearings used in longboarding applications are the same thing as these right(in there design)

http://www.foothill.net/~sayre/image...%20bearing.jpg

**mc99david** · 01-26-2009 10:55 PM

chaser: thats awesome, where in WA are ya? and be sure its warm out so you dont waist all the cf and fg

chaunce: just ask for 1/8th inch baltic birch. it will work out best that way.

1/8th inch bb will have 3 layers of bb in it, you want it cut long grain, this will make it so the bottom layer is long grain, the middle is cross grain, and the top layer is long grain. there are some neat things you can do with changing up the layups with the cross grain, but you dont want to mess with this till you have a good 10 boards under your belt first..

shrim!@#$##*@*@&!: that looks right to me.

and for the sake of adding too the question about berts, and posting fun pics.. here is my collection

**chaser** · 01-26-2009 11:08 PM

Originally Posted by mc99david

chaser: thats awesome, where in WA are ya? and be sure its warm out so you dont waist all the cf and fg

chaunce: just ask for 1/8th inch baltic birch. it will work out best that way.

1/8th inch bb will have 3 layers of bb in it, you want it cut long grain, this will make it so the bottom layer is long grain, the middle is cross grain, and the top layer is long grain. there are some neat things you can do with changing up the layups with the cross grain, but you dont want to mess with this till you have a good 10 boards under your belt first..

shrim!@#$##*@*@&!: that looks right to me.

and for the sake of adding too the question about berts, and posting fun pics.. here is my collection

m out in the issaquah area, iv done most of the runs on northwestlongboarding.com (IN THE SAMMAMISH AREA! not the whole map!) iv also run a few of my own.

**Cruiserdude** · 01-26-2009 11:39 PM

Okay, well, I'm not sure, but I think I just experienced my first taste of wheelbite today. I was riding my Gravity 43" carve with Tracker dart 149's and stock Gravity 66mm wheels that came with the complete. Wedged front, dewedged rear, just installed Bones bushings so the feel is looser/deeper carving than before. Anyway, I can't get the wheels to touch while standing still even if I lean the board and jump on it, though they do come very close. But in the middle some rapid back and forth slalom style carving, the board suddenly stopped and pitched me off while I was at maximum lean without hitting any obstacle. I wasn't looking at the wheels, but I can only surmise that it was wheelbite. The slight wear marks above the wheels on the board show that the wheels have touched before (this is a used board that I just picked up), though most likely this was due to either far too loose trucks (stock bushings were hard hourglass), or some aggressive sliding. Either way, I don't wanna raise the board up anymore, I plan to get some 70mm zigs before too long, and I like loose but non-wobbly trucks with softer, reboundy bushings.

Anyway, the wheelbite isn't too dramatic and rather hard to induce, and 2mm increased radius isn't much, but I'd still like to eliminate the possibility of wheelbite altogether, as I've been riding alot more conservatively since then. I'd like to know if I can simply take some sandpaper, and work on the wheel-worn spots on the deck a bit and shape some wheel-wells, if this would require actual cutting and then sanding, or if its the kind of thing that I shouldn't do at all. Seems like it would work just sanding it, but I don't want to mess up the plies or make it delaminate or anything...

**chaser** · 01-26-2009 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by K-SHIZZ

chaser: i ride the evo and i love it. like i said, im 130 and have no problem doing anything with it. i've also ridden the hellcat and liked that too. it felt quicker and mor agile than the evo. however i havent had any extensive riding with this board so i cant give a real proper review on it. so i definately reccomend the evo and would say the hellcat is an excellent choice. But those boards you make sound preatty epic i must say so i wouldnt be surprised if you end up liking the ones you make better.

KAKA: according to my calendar it is infact that time of the month again.

but on a more serious note, it seems like ever since malakai dominated the "you arent real skateboarders" thread, people have decided that angry threads are useful in some way to the fish. it seems like instead of coming on here to get good info and talk about longboarding, people are jsut getting on here so they can vent about random stufff.

ntthrepo: thats why you stock up in advance.

i just found a board called the rum runner by roggs. how does that compare to the others? anyone know anything about that board?

**TexasBomber** · 01-27-2009 07:14 AM

Originally Posted by TexasBomber

A buddy of mine gave me a set of Bear pumpkins.
Can I run them on Randals?

Originally Posted by mc99david

texas bomber: yes, they will fit just fine

ThanX Dave.
Do you think I need a bottom washer? Also is the top washer to small?

ThanX again, (for your time)

**mc99david** · 01-27-2009 09:00 AM

cruiserdude: if you want to go with bigger wheels, i think you'll need to actualy do wheel cutouts, nut just sanding in wheel wells, to keep with 66mm wheels then add some wheel wells, it wont cause a delam, so it will be fine. but your choices are really either smaller whees, raising the trucks, harder bushings or wheel wells. so whatever you want to do there. i'd probably sand in wheel wells and stay with 66mm wheels personaly.

texas: top washer looks fine to me, but you'll know better when you ride, if it is deforming the bushing then change it. a bottom washer will give you more rebound and less lean, so that kind of depends on how you want it to feel, but it is not totaly neccesary

chaser: get the rumrunner, its an awesome board

**tinypete** · 01-27-2009 09:30 AM

David, that was a sick video!! There were some awesome photos in there.

Oh, and I added you on facebook.

**mc99david** · 01-27-2009 09:44 AM

thanks man, that pretty much covers the first year i started skating, thats pretty much all we did that summer, it was a lot of fun.. and i got your add