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[Daniel M.]

why would you want uhmw on your shoes?... have you looked into ice skating?

[jaytoo]

any particular reason you cant just attach a handle for the slide pucks?

also, random note; you ever make your own Soap(tm) shoes?

[kraffft]

Sliding palms down means your head is also down.

But if you can turn the hand so that its facing downhill as you slide, You'll be better able to see.

Like this?:

YouTube - slide staff

[kraffft]

a reworked 'longbow' might be more efficient,
wackyboards: up and down
also, parallel stance would ideally be more efficient since it evens up the usage of muscle, but its hard to ride parallel..

That 'up and down' section on your site was great to see.. some similar ideas on there to what I'm working on.. but nothing fast.. and mostly overly complex.

Parallel stance is also less aero..

Even muscle usage isn't a top priority (just skate switch).. but it definitely gets me thinking in some interesting directions..

so, strange idea popped into my head. doubtful it would work unfortunately, but definitely worth putting out there. a shoe with UHMW (or some other slide material) soles or clamp-on type soles for foot breaking. trouble would arise in pushing and being uneven, with the other shoe while riding and such.

There are retrofit shoe soles out there, specifically for foot braking.. but they're made out of the opposite of slide material.. I think you glue them on.

@daniel m
I briefly described an idea a couple posts back that would be a potential use for slide material on your soles.. The ideal material would slide very well in one direction and grip well in all other directions (sort of like a rollerblade).. This would allow you to push a skateboard faster and more efficently (as well as basically rollerblade, or run and slide).

any particular reason you cant just attach a handle for the slide pucks?

also, random note; you ever make your own Soap(tm) shoes?

No reason you couldn't attach a handle.. There's a legendary handled slide puck somewhere in the hills of eastern CT.. being wielded by a sidewalk samuri.. The master slide puck..

Mainly I'm just coming up with secondary uses for the slide wheels for after they flatspot. They can also be cut down in various ways to make decent glove pucks.

Never made or used soap shoes.. (plastic concavity in the sole for doing grinds).. but I've done a lot of freestyle walking.. and also breakdancing.

[Wolfin]

so, strange idea popped into my head. doubtful it would work unfortunately, but definitely worth putting out there. a shoe with UHMW (or some other slide material) soles or clamp-on type soles for foot breaking. trouble would arise in pushing and being uneven, with the other shoe while riding and such.

It's so low-friction that it wouldn't cause you to footbrake at all. That's why people use roger brothers' brake soles, or cut up tire.

[atomicturtle462]

I had an idea that could work or just be interesting. I know you made UHMW wheels. What if you just had blocks where the wheels were?

[speshlspeclsteak]

then they wouldnt work and the only way you could slide would be via tow in. you also couldnt turn.
it would pretty much seace to be skateboarding

[atomicturtle462]

then they wouldnt work and the only way you could slide would be via tow in. you also couldnt turn.
it would pretty much seace to be skateboarding

Hmmmmmmmmmm

[kraffft]

So I finally got paypal set up.

PM to place orders or arrange custom work.


65mm UHMW slide wheels are available.

$32/set.
$40 with bearings and spacers installed.

For a limited time your first flatspot is free. Get a free blemished fifth wheel with every set.

They're definitely not for everyone, so I'm going to do my best to convince you not to buy them..

The most important points are:

THESE ARE DEDICATED TECH SLIDING WHEELS. They are not good for cruising, dancing, pumping, dh, carving, or even most stand up slides.

YOU NEED FAST PUCKS TO GO WITH THESE. Ideally delrin. With regular UHMW pucks your hands are going to slide slower than your board, and always end up trailing behind it.

YOU WILL FALL MANY TIMES BECAUSE OF THESE WHEELS. Especially when trying these for the first time, you will be so much happier if you are wearing at least knee pads and heavy clothing.

Aside from these warnings, if you like hands down sliding, these offer more slide than any other wheel, while still having the tiniest bit of grip to keep them acting like wheels at all. I'm psyched to see what people can do with them!

More info and videos to come, but I wanted to make the announcement for the folks that have been waiting on these..

If you're in the region try em out at wheelabrator this Sunday.

[jaytoo]

Like this?:

YouTube - slide staff

WANT.

If it's a solid staff of uhmw, though, isn't it not that strong (i don't actually have much experience with the stuff, so iono). Why not just a chunk of uhmw on the end of a strong wooden staff, Kahun big stick style?

Although a solid staff of UHMW definitely looks cooler...

[endzone_bob]

Why not just a chunk of uhmw on the end of a strong wooden staff, Kahun big stick style?

Yeah, the nice part about putting a chunk on the (top) end of a SUP stick is that you could use it for pushing when you wanted and then flip it over for fancy slide action....

[kraffft]

Slide deck experiment number 2:





Next to its big brother:



Don't think I posted any info on number 1 in this thread yet.. it's been in some videos though.

Had wanted to try a smaller version of the same idea since I finished the first one.. Except the rails are 1/4 inch higher this time (since they hadn't caused any problems yet at the shorter heights).

This one took about an hour to make including one coat of urethane. Material cost was around $8 (1/2" baltic birch). This design is extremely rigid though, so it could easily be made out of cheaper wood.

[kraffft]

two person on one board...

I've messed around with this a lot as well.. it works ok if both people are good skaters.. but for some reason that's rarely the case.. It's often peoples first response when they see a long longboard.. "how many people can fit on that?"..

I'd be into trying something more like a skate train.. where the person in front steers and everyone else just trails behind sitting on dollies.. But I probably just need to go sledding.. 2009/10 Winter 'to do' number one: Acquire a large billboard (the kind that's basically a heavy vinyl tarp).. and get as many people as possible to ride it down a sledding hill together.

nice! they remind me of air hockey paddles..

btw, Brad Edward also uses a hand held puck...
check the latest slide fest vid..

It's definitely nice having the hand held puck be radially symmetrical (like the air hockey paddle).. especially if you're just using one puck and switching hands a lot. (I tried some asymmetrical designs first)..

The Brad Edwards tip reminded me of this thread:

alternatives to slide gloves?

Here's a summary (through page 6):

-this:

-plastic bottles- gatorade, fancy water.
-round rocks for glove pucks.
-work gloves with duct tape wrapped around them.
-trash can lids.
-bandanna wrapped around hand.
-tin cans.
-rocks.
-milk crates (sk8norcal posted some good videos of this).
-wood block.
-manual hand sander/sanding block with the cutting board or whatever on the bottom.
-slide pucks onto the wrist portion of hoodies with thumb loops.
-leather gloves (plain).
-street hockey pucks.

I had an idea that could work or just be interesting. I know you made UHMW wheels. What if you just had blocks where the wheels were?

Speshl is pretty much right about this one.. I still might try it some time.. cube wheels would just look so great..

WANT.
If it's a solid staff of uhmw, though, isn't it not that strong (i don't actually have much experience with the stuff, so iono). Why not just a chunk of uhmw on the end of a strong wooden staff, Kahun big stick style?

~2.5" dia UHMW is plenty strong.. it's just heavy. I agree wood would be good. also fiberglass.. High quality long tool handles are the best readily available thing I can think to use.. or a freshly cut sapling.. ash/maple/birch/oak around here. Less than $100 shipped.

Yeah, the nice part about putting a chunk on the (top) end of a SUP stick is that you could use it for pushing when you wanted and then flip it over for fancy slide action....

and for pole vaulting..

[sk8norcal]

kraffft,

I remember watching a Warren Miller ski film that have a small part which guys were skiing/boarding with wacky objects.

ever seen that?

i been trying to find it forever...

[sk8norcal]

Parallel stance is also less aero..

Even muscle usage isn't a top priority (just skate switch).. but it definitely gets me thinking in some interesting directions..

any increase in drag for parallel would be minimal at the speed guys are going on the flats...

one thing I don't like about LDP is that its one-sided....
it would be great if I can jump into switch stance pumping,
but very few skaters can pump switch..

[Delta]

learn it!

10skillsyoushouldhave

[livehard365]

No reason you couldn't attach a handle.. There's a legendary handled slide puck somewhere in the hills of eastern CT.. being wielded by a slidewalk samurai.. The master slide puck.

I have seen the slidewalk samuri

[Alpha06]

This thread never fails to blow my mind

[livehard365]

http://www.silverfishlongboarding.com/forum/
I will be making a set of those this week.

[spoctopus]

^^ what he said