Where's Julian?

**streetheap** · 04-16-2008 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by bucksaw87

i got my refund a while back, i know he's been really spotty with refunds, but PM me if you want his email address

Thanks, Bucksaw. I've actually been in contact with Jessica, his wife. Supposedly I was getting my Paypal refund in February. Nope. Since then, I've sent her more e-mails but haven't heard back. I am not going to sweat it too hard, just chalk it up to "it's a crazy world" type of thing. If I get my refund, cool. If not, ?????

I'm a firm believer in Karma, and that whole situation with Julian is just a f*cking Karma sewer drain I don't want any part of anymore. Glad to see some peeps got their money, back, though.

**drkillgore** · 04-16-2008 05:44 PM

I'm not accepting anything. I want my $175 and I want it 2 months ago. I'm a firm believer in: "You owe me money, now pay or your leg is gonna meet my steel pipe."

**The_Other_Danny** · 05-19-2008 04:02 PM

You are all assholes for accepting that he's just going to take your money and give you absolutely NOTHING in return. You should be ashamed of your selves, you've let him just walk all over you

**streetheap** · 05-19-2008 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by The_Other_Danny

You are all assholes for accepting that he's just going to take your money and give you absolutely NOTHING in return. You should be ashamed of your selves, you've let him just walk all over you

No need for name calling.

Originally Posted by streetheap

Thanks, Bucksaw. I've actually been in contact with Jessica, his wife. Supposedly I was getting my Paypal refund in February. Nope. Since then, I've sent her more e-mails but haven't heard back. I am not going to sweat it too hard, just chalk it up to "it's a crazy world" type of thing. If I get my refund, cool. If not, ?????

I'm a firm believer in Karma, and that whole situation with Julian is just a f*cking Karma sewer drain I don't want any part of anymore. Glad to see some peeps got their money, back, though.

**arcane** · 05-19-2008 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by The_Other_Danny

You are all assholes for accepting that he's just going to take your money and give you absolutely NOTHING in return. You should be ashamed of your selves, you've let him just walk all over you

And they can do what exactly? What would you do in this situation that most of these guys haven't? Just curious.

**mc99david** · 05-19-2008 04:31 PM

srsly, for such a relativly small amount of money, people really should just count it a loss and move on to a degree, as they have been.. you dont hire a lawyer of $200. pretty soon it costing you more money than you could recieve. i also think most people here feel bad for jullian and wish him the best. he is a good guy, just some bad thing happened and he did not have a solid enough business plan to handle it. he probably should have been charging twice what he was to be prepared for a bad batch of boards

**Alpha06** · 05-19-2008 04:43 PM

Small claims court does not require legal representation. You have the legal system, and all necessary documentation. Use it. Because you sure as hell aint getting your boards.

If you paid via PP or CC just due a chargeback. Keep waiting and that privilege will disappear.

**bucksaw87** · 10-26-2008 03:24 PM

did anybody ever find julian? and did everybody get refunded properly?

**Mac Daddy** · 10-26-2008 04:40 PM

my friend ordered a scorpion for 130 or whatever they are and never got his money back. Paypal said it was too late to get his money back and he cant really do anything. I guess instead of getting a lawyer he could just call the cops and report him for stealing but its still a lot of work. My guess is this guy got away with a boat load of cash for doing nothing. Ive had a CLB for almost 2 years and still ride it to this day but this guy found a great way to be hated by the entire skate community.

**novah** · 10-26-2008 05:55 PM

bastard owes me 175

**streetheap** · 10-26-2008 07:09 PM

I got refunded my $160 for an Epipen.
But he still owes me a couple of sweatshirts.

**Pricey** · 11-01-2008 10:53 AM

I still want a Topmount

**Ferrarimk13** · 11-01-2008 02:20 PM

his boards looked great, but he was gone before i even considered one of them. Sounds like a really unprofessional thing to do on his part, but i guess the world works like that sometimes.

**PMC** · 11-01-2008 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Ferrarimk13

his boards looked great, but he was gone before i even considered one of them. Sounds like a really unprofessional thing to do on his part, but i guess the world works like that sometimes.

Wise beyond you're years grasshopper

If you want a top mount contact absorbentpig here on the fish. His topmount is a really nice foamy with upgrades. =

**inertiatic515** · 11-01-2008 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by novah

bastard owes me 175

I know $175 is a reasonable amount of money, but there are bigger things in life to worry about than how you're out $175.

It's sort of sad how people like you are so attached to money and commodities.

Let it go.

**arcane** · 11-02-2008 01:24 AM

Originally Posted by inertiatic515

I know $175 is a reasonable amount of money, but there are bigger things in life to worry about than how you're out $175.

It's sort of sad how people like you are so attached to money and commodities.

Let it go.

Actually, It's sad how people like you are so detached from compassion and human response to being f*cked over.

It goes well beyond the money issue for most people, and a recompense monetarily is all they can hope for in terms of a resolve. If you can't see that then it's very unfortunate for you. Go be green and let bygones be bygones while people in this thread discuss what they feel about being screwed.

Let me guess, you didn't order a board from CLB and probably never even heard of him until you stumbled onto the Fish? How about you let it go and post about what you know.

**inertiatic515** · 11-02-2008 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by arcane

Actually, It's sad how people like you are so detached from compassion and human response to being f*cked over.

It goes well beyond the money issue for most people, and a recompense monetarily is all they can hope for in terms of a resolve. If you can't see that then it's very unfortunate for you. Go be green and let bygones be bygones while people in this thread discuss what they feel about being screwed.

Let me guess, you didn't order a board from CLB and probably never even heard of him until you stumbled onto the Fish? How about you let it go and post about what you know.

Well my response was mainly due to the fact that he called the guy a "bastard," which I think is really unfair, similar to anyone else calling him similar names.

As far as I understand, he didn't start up the whole business as a front to steal people's money, so it's not like it was a dastardly scheme which would warrant demonizing CLB.

And no, I haven't ordered a board from CLB, and you're right about not having heard of CLB until I've joined SF. I don't see why it matters. I've had large sums of money owed to me before (tried to sell stuff and got a bounced cheque, person disappeared) and yes it blows and hurts that you've trusted someone and they break that, but it's only money. It can be earned back. It's not personal.

I understand that it can go beyond the money issue, but then I would expect more than comments about how "that asshole/bastard/some variation owes me $XXXXX". To me, the choice of words suggests that the money issue trumps anything else.

**MalakaiKingston** · 11-02-2008 05:06 AM

Originally Posted by inertiatic515

so it's not like it was a dastardly scheme which would warrant demonizing CLB.

Doesn't matter why he did it or what the originating intent was, be it respectable or not. Matter of fact is he took orders he never delivered on. In my humble and ignorant opinion that is an act that would directly warrant demonizing.

If you don't deliver what you are paid for you are a thief.

If you don't face up to why you did it you are a coward.

This world is lacking in honor and respect and it's companies like that that lower the bar and allow others to compare their faulty customer service as excusable.

To back that up I have personally taken money out of my own pocket to cease business with companies that practice those sort of acts.

If Julian wants to refund all the orders he hasn't delivered on and explain why it happened, that would be a pretty good start.

Until then wave the torches and raise the pitchforks.

**MalakaiKingston** · 11-02-2008 05:28 AM

Originally Posted by arcane

How about you let it go and post about what you know.

Don't suggest that. If people followed that advice this would be a VERY quiet forum.

**Ogre** · 11-02-2008 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by MalakaiKingston

Doesn't matter why he did it or what the originating intent was, be it respectable or not. Matter of fact is he took orders he never delivered on. In my humble and ignorant opinion that is an act that would directly warrant demonizing.

If you don't deliver what you are paid for you are a thief.

If you don't face up to why you did it you are a coward.

This world is lacking in honor and respect and it's companies like that that lower the bar and allow others to compare their faulty customer service as excusable.

To back that up I have personally taken money out of my own pocket to cease business with companies that practice those sort of acts.

If Julian wants to refund all the orders he hasn't delivered on and explain why it happened, that would be a pretty good start.

Until then wave the torches and raise the pitchforks.

While it is a bad scene, and a lot of "younger" guys have lost funds that they probably sacrificed big for, it is something you have to accept as a fact. My main contention is that if Julian is not behind bars or in some other way unable to access the net.. He needed to at least come forth and publicly explain his situation and plan of action. Not shroud it in drama and lay it in his wife's lap to deal with. Karma is a strong force, and will prevail. That being said, if someone were law savy, considering this was mostly done over the internet, I'm sure it is in violation of Federal Law and the penalties are greater. A lien could be placed on him, and that would make his entire family suffer in the future..Is that what you want? I agree with Kai, and have spent personal monies to punish individuals for wrong business practices, but in this instance nobody knows what truly happened.