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    Default Re: SABRE trucks and bushings

    The height would be 51cos7+63.5sin7 (axle is about 63.5mm horizontally from the edge of the baseplate, axle is 51mm normally) if the riser thickness is 0 at the thin end, which is about 58 mm, so realistically around 60 mm. If you were dewedging the height would be only 51cos7+20sin7 (if the axle is 20mm from the other end of the baseplate) which is 53mm.

    And these baseplates look awesome, I would love something lower than a regular topmount but I don't really like drop decks or drop throughs for a lot of things. Can you give us a price estimate on these?
    Ah man all that clever maths to not realise the riser can't be 0 at the thin end cos it's a dropup plate. You'd have to add probably another 7mm riser I guess? So 60mm? Unless it's possible to go lower, but I don't have the plates available to check. Maybe you could use the 3mm. That'd be radical.
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    Default Re: SABRE trucks and bushings

    Quote Originally Posted by gavmck View Post
    Ah man all that clever maths to not realise the riser can't be 0 at the thin end cos it's a dropup plate. You'd have to add probably another 7mm riser I guess? So 60mm? Unless it's possible to go lower, but I don't have the plates available to check. Maybe you could use the 3mm. That'd be radical.
    Quote Originally Posted by dingman08 View Post
    The height would be 51cos7+63.5sin7 (axle is about 63.5mm horizontally from the edge of the baseplate, axle is 51mm normally) if the riser thickness is 0 at the thin end, which is about 58 mm, so realistically around 60 mm. If you were dewedging the height would be only 51cos7+20sin7 (if the axle is 20mm from the other end of the baseplate) which is 53mm.

    And these baseplates look awesome, I would love something lower than a regular topmount but I don't really like drop decks or drop throughs for a lot of things. Can you give us a price estimate on these?
    I factored in 2mm, maybe that's too little.
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    Ah yeah that's fair. Thanks for the calculations, they do give a good estimate. Here's hoping!
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    Default Re: SABRE trucks and bushings

    these trucks are so stable and the stock bushings are amazing
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    Default Re: SABRE trucks and bushings

    A few updates:

    >The third (and hopefully final!) redesign of our TKP truck is in progress, we're machining the tooling at the moment and should have an update for you shortly.

    >We are working on a 180mm Gravity Cast hanger, with the same rake and other dimensions as our 190mm.

    >Another angle of forged baseplate is in progress.

    >The Hollow Kingpin "White Sabres" are available to buy direct from our website.

    >We putting a freeride/DH team together - more news shortly.

    Stay tuned

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    I'm getting pretty damned close to ditching these kahas man, that's some nice product you got there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SABREtrucks View Post
    A few updates:


    >We are working on a 180mm Gravity Cast hanger, with the same rake and other dimensions as our 190mm.

    >Another angle of forged baseplate is in progress.

    >The Hollow Kingpin "White Sabres" are available to buy direct from our website.

    >We putting a freeride/DH team together - more news shortly.

    Stay tuned
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    Default Re: SABRE trucks and bushings

    No updates for a while... sorry!!

    >The 2nd round (3rd design) of CNC TKP prototypes is being done this week, so we should have some updates on that pretty shortly... We weren't happy with the hanger strength on the first round so we've beefed them up a bit.

    Once we have approved (skated) the CNC protoypes, we'll be pressing go with casting moulds at the foundry.

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    >180mm hangers are at the 1st stage RP (Rapid prototyping) stage at the plastic printers. More updates soon...

    >We're switching to a new material for the riser system on the forged baseplates to reduce flex when the trucks are topmounted - should have some pictures of that shortly.
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    Default Re: SABRE trucks and bushings

    Sabre TKP 170 preview...

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    These pictures are of our final CNC prototype before we go to casting. There will be a couple of small aesthetic changes to the hanger, but we're pretty much there with it. Should be out later this year.

    Any thoughts or comments- let us know...!
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    Default Re: SABRE trucks and bushings

    so sleek!
    Like a damn spaceship
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    double kick shenanigans time

    I do request that it be released with the 90a barrels though please! and I'd hope that the rpks can go back to the purple stock.
    That'd be nice.
    why'd that get changed anyways?

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    Nice work guys. Those look awesome.
    Loving the 8 hole plates.
    Any plans to do lower angle plates and slalom widths?
    Quote Originally Posted by Will DS View Post
    double kick shenanigans time

    I do request that it be released with the 90a barrels though please! and I'd hope that the rpks can go back to the purple stock.
    That'd be nice.
    why'd that get changed anyways?
    Pretty sure they got changed coz of peoples inability to realise that the bushings needed to be broken in to wear off mold release. There were a few people posting about wheelbite straight out of the box.

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    Wait... If you've got room for two old-school, you've got room for three new.

    I was also thinking about the breaking in periods described in this thread, could it be polish residue on the hanger?
    most of them are carried by a wax, and this could be the issue - Just wondering out loud...
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    Oh my god. YES. I just became incredibly infatuated with stoke. everything about these trucks seems like win

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    Verry nicee! The images say they are compatible with Indy-hangers, so only a baseplate change (if you have indy's now) is enough to feel the new trucks? Or is the sabre hanger better because .....?
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    Default Re: SABRE trucks and bushings

    The bushing seat looks a lot nicer, and 170mm is a hanger width that independent does not offer.
    The casting should be a lot cleaner too.

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    We haven't checked this thread out for a while!! Sorry...

    Quote Originally Posted by Will DS View Post
    I do request that it be released with the 90a barrels though please! and I'd hope that the rpks can go back to the purple stock.
    That'd be nice.
    why'd that get changed anyways?
    It got changed because, as whozarmy says, we got sick of people not realising that the bushings take a while to break in! We're still working on the TKP stock bushing spec, we've tried it with most combos so far. With the 90a they are really, really turny - fine on a board with cutouts, but a topmount with just wheel wells will get wheelbite without a lot of riser... It's a tricky balance to strike, cast your votes if you like...!

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveC View Post
    Wait... If you've got room for two old-school, you've got room for three new.

    I was also thinking about the breaking in periods described in this thread, could it be polish residue on the hanger?
    most of them are carried by a wax, and this could be the issue - Just wondering out loud...
    You're right about the hole pattern... we're a little wary of drilling too many holes in a cast baseplate though.

    The breaking in period is caused by mould release on the bushings, as we don't polish our hangers, they are lightly tumbled after heat treatment and that's it... No need to make the finish any better than it is when it comes out of the steel mould!

    (Stoked to have your interest in this thread by the way Steve C)

    Quote Originally Posted by SnaB View Post
    Verry nicee! The images say they are compatible with Indy-hangers, so only a baseplate change (if you have indy's now) is enough to feel the new trucks? Or is the sabre hanger better because .....?
    There's a bit more going with a TKP truck compared to an RKP truck - the hanger and baseplate work together and depend on each other in much more subtle ways... The hanger and baseplate geometry is different to Indy's (we weren't satisfied with just using someone else's angles) but we've made sure that they will fit together if you want. The "feel" is something we'll leave for you to decide...!

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    [img]http://www.silverfishlongboarding.com/forum/longboarding-skateboard-manufacturers/longboarding-skateboard-manufacturers/We haven't checked this thread out for a while!! Sorry...

    Quote Originally Posted by Will DS View Post
    I do request that it be released with the 90a barrels though please! and I'd hope that the rpks can go back to the purple stock.
    That'd be nice.
    why'd that get changed anyways?
    It got changed because, as whozarmy says, we got sick of people not realising that the bushings take a while to break in! We're still working on the TKP stock bushing spec, we've tried it with most combos so far. With the 90a they are really, really turny - fine on a board with cutouts, but a topmount with just wheel wells will get wheelbite without a lot of riser... It's a tricky balance to strike, cast your votes if you like...!

    Quote Originally Posted by SteveC View Post
    Wait... If you've got room for two old-school, you've got room for three new.

    I was also thinking about the breaking in periods described in this thread, could it be polish residue on the hanger?
    most of them are carried by a wax, and this could be the issue - Just wondering out loud...
    You're right about the hole pattern... we're a little wary of drilling too many holes in a cast baseplate though.

    The breaking in period is caused by mould release on the bushings, as we don't polish our hangers, they are lightly tumbled after heat treatment and that's it... No need to make the finish any better than it is when it comes out of the steel mould!

    (Stoked to have your interest in this thread by the way Steve C)

    Quote Originally Posted by SnaB View Post
    Verry nicee! The images say they are compatible with Indy-hangers, so only a baseplate change (if you have indy's now) is enough to feel the new trucks? Or is the sabre hanger better because .....?
    There's a bit more going with a TKP truck compared to an RKP truck - the hanger and baseplate work together and depend on each other in much more subtle ways... The hanger and baseplate geometry is different to Indy's (we weren't satisfied with just using someone else's angles) but we've made sure that they will fit together if you want. The "feel" is something we'll leave for you to decide...!

    And now for some updates... Plastic Printing Rules!!!

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    A lot of great things going on at Sabre these days. The TKP truck looks sick, as do the drop up base plates. I also put my vote in for purple stock bushings; I use them much more than green...

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    Ok thanks for the answer! I'm going for a fun city-slasher setup (RKP sabres) on a cruizer with massive wheelwhells/cutouts for the end of summer, sounds good to me :P
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    my dreams have finally come true, a 180mm sabre!!!!!!!!!!
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