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Old 05-29-2008, 09:21 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Question Everything's In 4/4!

Its an obvious and blatant exaggeration, of course. But does it seem to you that 4/4 is decidedly overused? Turn on any radio station, go ahead, do it. Rock, rap, mariachi, it don't matter. Dollars to donuts whatever song is playing will be in the most common time signature around. Granted; theres a reason why this is the most widely used time; although I sure don't know how it came about as such. And don't get me wrong, sometimes its used well (see: Funk). But more often than not, its the same old predictable One-Snare-Two-Snare-Three-Snare-Short Fill-Cymbal! Would it kill a band to play something in 5 every once and a while? Even 3? Is really this too much to ask?
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Old 05-29-2008, 10:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It's the most common dance beat going - even "rock" bands are (ab)using it more often. It's what makes a song go from a mundane track to a Pop hit. Sometimes it's okay - but 4 on the floor to me says Disco an Disco sucks!
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Cures for this: Start listening to Aphex Twin, The Bad Plus, Amon Tobin, King Crimson... To name a few who do a good job at using.... er, unconventional timing.
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Old 05-29-2008, 10:10 AM   #4 (permalink)
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King Crimson, Tool, Dave Brubeck. I do my best to get away but it just keeps pulling me back in
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some odd time signatures are just awkward, and sound awkward.

also, dont confuse syncopation with odd time signatures.
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Old 05-29-2008, 10:31 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Check out the song "Dublin Waltz" by Monty Are I. It's 3/4 and it's also a fantastic song. I think Dream Theather does some crazy things to.

I like 4/4, but I do agree that sometimes it needs to be changed up a bit.
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Old 05-29-2008, 11:43 AM   #7 (permalink)
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For starters...

Lots and Lots of Rush (thanks to Neil Peart)
Lots of Frank Zappa
Pink Floyd - Money
Jeff Beck - Space Boogie
Sting - 7 Days
Allman Bros - Whipping Post (Zappa's version is much better!!)
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um...isn't that why they call it "common time"?
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Old 05-29-2008, 12:08 PM   #9 (permalink)
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opeth is a great band to check out if your into interesting bands, i dunno, listen to dream theater or something, or jazz, 4/4 sounds most pleasing to the ears and is easy to keep up with
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check out "mongrel" by dj shadow if you need a break.

That song has an awesome and unique rhythm.
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If you TRULY want to break away from "conventional timing" check out:

THE DILLINGER ESCAPE PLAN
MySpace.com - The Dillinger Escape Plan - Morris Plains, NEW JERSEY - Metal / Hardcore / Alternative - www.myspace.com/dillingerescapeplan

the whole miss machine album is amazing
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if you don't like metal/chaos
you probably wont like them

but if you can get through any metal song without going "wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh they're screaming wahhhhh" then you will most certainly find something to love about them.
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um...isn't that why they call it "common time"?
I've been called a "common tally-whacker!"
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Its an obvious and blatant exaggeration, of course. But does it seem to you that 4/4 is decidedly overused? Turn on any radio station, go ahead, do it. Rock, rap, mariachi, it don't matter. Dollars to donuts whatever song is playing will be in the most common time signature around. Granted; theres a reason why this is the most widely used time; although I sure don't know how it came about as such. And don't get me wrong, sometimes its used well (see: Funk). But more often than not, its the same old predictable One-Snare-Two-Snare-Three-Snare-Short Fill-Cymbal! Would it kill a band to play something in 5 every once and a while? Even 3? Is really this too much to ask?
Actually the only two songs i've ever written were in 6/4 and 3/4. hmmm.... also, look up 442
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Yeah dude. I know what you're saying. I can't listen to the radio. It makes me sick. I listen to a lot of extreme and progressive death metal, and there's all kinds of odd times that a bunch of bands are using. random bars of 5 thrown in, or a lot of it is in 7/8. 19/16. 11/8. weird stuff. It rules. Opeth is awesome. I've seen em live a couple of times. Nile, the faceless, beneath the massacre, behemoth, odious mortem are some good ones. Of course Dream theater is like the flagship of prog these days and they abuse that stuff too. Old mahavishnu orchestra is pretty nuts with the timing, a lot of 9/8. I'm probably rambling, but, i'm a musician myself and i cant help it!
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