sliding all over the place

**fishermantpr** · 07-06-2009 11:02 PM

I started hitting the local parks recently in an attempt to tear up the bowls like I did 20 years ago.
1st thing I realized is it is a blast, should have never stopped
2nd thing, I am old now
3rd is that I am sliding all over the damn place

I have 2 set ups one on some killer bees that have been suffuciently broken in and the other is on 62mm SPFs.
I tried some 85a bowl bomber yesterday but they were painfully slow.

The SPFs are noticably faster but I am sliding out pretty easily on both.

Is it a matter of tequnique or should I look for some grippier wheels.
If it's the wheels what do you recomend?

**Wells** · 07-06-2009 11:33 PM

What are the ramps like? Wood or concrete? Dusty? Slick from graffiti?

**fishermantpr** · 07-07-2009 08:43 PM

Concrete, no grafiti, very slick. Were in the desert so it is some what dusty.

**ey666** · 07-08-2009 09:00 AM

Do you need to carve alot? Maybe your trucks are too tight? When i restart skating again. Getting your balance takes a litttle bit of time to get used to.I found spf grips on most surfaces fairly well. unless is super smooth concrete.There is always a breaking point to wheels. Once you are used to it ,I think you will be fine.At my local skatepark, Most local skater can push the wheels to a sliding sound with out washing out [we all ride spf].I found pumping too hard ,sometime would throw you out of balance.Relax a bit more and not stiffen your body. KIds with small or flatspoted wheels have to pump harder and still get no speed. spf in general are harder and faster than other brands = less pumping to get top speed. If your are sliding on kicktruns.In genral, It's your body prosition.you are not on top of your board. good luck!

**fishermantpr** · 07-08-2009 01:47 PM

Had another sesh this morning, it is frickin hot out side. Still having some issues with sliding out but it is mostly on the flats today and i agree body position is key, I know when it is coming because I can feel I am way to far over the board. Alot less sliding in the bowl today, it is just a matter of getting comfortable. Now if I can only work up the courage to drop in...

**powdermike** · 07-08-2009 02:45 PM

Hi fishermantpr-
Check out the forum section on http://www.oldmanarmy.com
Lots of helpful content re. wheels, parks and dropping in for +30 year old skaters!
Bonus: Old Man Army is located in Phoenix

Back to your question:
I'm riding Bones SPF 60mm and Rainskates Yellow Jacket 62mm in the super smooth bowls at Union Hills, Goodyear and Rio Vista.

**DomitianX** · 07-08-2009 08:10 PM

Its mostly a matter of getting used to how the wheels react. SPFs are great concrete wheels, but they do get slippery on dusty concrete. I also ride SPFs in the local masonite bowl that gets pretty dusty and it takes a few runs for me to get reacquainted with how they react on masonite compared to how they react on concrete.

Once you "learn" your wheels, you will be very happy with SPFs.

**Stupendous Man** · 07-08-2009 09:45 PM

How about some BDS Dub Cons(64mm), or mini Dub Cons(62mm). Nice and wide w/ awesome urethane, and come in a couple different duro's. I have some Dub Cons in what I think is either 90 or 94a, and they are awesomely grippy, and still plenty fast for me. Unfortunately they are sooo hard to find. Tailtap does have some 97a jujus in though. Gyro's might be another option. Abec 11 No Skoolz are really nice wheels, and have decent grip on slick concrete and come in tons of different duros and are 60 and 65mm. Retro Invertz are pretty nice and grip really well on all but the slickest of concrete. These are at least some other options to check out. Like said above though, body position is key to really solving this issue. Thats probably why I still suck at transition....lol

**dave_p** · 07-10-2009 08:36 AM

spf's are the best on crete, you will adapt to them and stop sliding (until you want to). give it a few sessions.

**Hot Wheels** · 07-11-2009 05:29 PM

I really like SPF's as well in the skateparks, however I also find
them fast, but somewhat slick. Being a later 1970's skater I am
more accustomed to a wider wheel.

A compromise are the 95A Rainskates Tsunami's. These are slightly
softer (more traction) and wider, but still have a core and are pretty fast.

You can check them out at SCS.com.

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**fishermantpr** · 07-11-2009 10:25 PM

thanks for all the feed back. I like the spfs they are fast. I am getting the feel for the rainskates more comfortable for me but I think the whole set up is more comfortable. I have been looking at the mini tsunamis as an alternative.
Any body useing the PF rat bones?

**Hot Wheels** · 07-13-2009 09:14 PM

I have the 97A re-issue Rat Bones, but not the Rat Bones II's
in the park formula.

The 97A (60MM) are a little slow in a park, but still a fun wheel.

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**lalit** · 07-13-2009 09:27 PM

I use the 85duro tsunami's for rough terrain like streets or lansdowne, the are sick wheels for that, but I find them way too slow for a modern park. The 95 would be faster but 95 I think is still a little soft for a modern park.

I've been riding the rainskates avalanche and really like them, they hardly ever slide unexpectadly.