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Old 06-23-2008, 03:19 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Ok I'm trying to understand why they suggest to use bigger wheels (60 to 64mm) in bowls/pools.

I started buying 64mm-97a Powell Peralta, rode them quite a bit then tried a friend's board with smaller wheel and found out that all I was trying to learn was easier on smaller wheels, and they where hella faster.
So I got a set of 58mm spitfires 100a, love them, not happy and addicted to skateboarding already I got also some Autobahn 55 mm 99a.

Now besides the lowered center of gravity what a re the advantages and disavantages bethween smaller and bigger wheels?
Consider that I'm a very basic level, riding the bottom of the pools ( no drop in) doing AS LOT of transitions, carving where I have enough speed and kickturning eveyrwhere...can't wait to drop in thise deep pools.

So what's the best wheel for what..and why?
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Old 06-23-2008, 03:37 PM   #2 (permalink)
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im sure someone is gonna yell at me for this but in my experience smaller wheels accelerate and turn faster but bigger wheels carry more speed and i think they top out higher
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Old 06-23-2008, 03:44 PM   #3 (permalink)
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I really think its a personal preferrence thing, whats good
for one person, might not be so good for another. It sounds
like you are doing the right thing by trying different size/duro's
to see what YOU prefer.

I like the stability of my 10 inch wide board, and the stability of
wider 63 - 64MM wheels that fill the board out to the edge.
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Old 06-23-2008, 03:44 PM   #4 (permalink)
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im sure someone is gonna yell at me for this but in my experience smaller wheels accelerate and turn faster but bigger wheels carry more speed and i think they top out higher
That I got...the difference bethween 64mm and 58 is VERY noticeable.
What I was asking is what is best for what..
Like why bigger wheels are ( supposedly) best for pools when I find doing everything on smaller (55mm) wheels a lot easier...
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I really think its a personal preferrence thing, whats good
for one person, might not be so good for another. It sounds
like you are doing the right thing by trying different size/duro's
to see what YOU prefer.

I like the stability of my 10 inch wide board, and the stability of
wider 63 - 64MM wheels that fill the board out to the edge.
I like that too, I had the 64s on an (old) Skaterbuilt pool deck and loved it, then I got 58's on a new Pool ripper board..now that felt great...
I went back and tried the first deck with the 64s and now it feels wobbly as hell compared to the lower pool ripper...
Yes I'm experimenting and comparing ( just added angled risers to my S9 Trylam..Awesome difference pumping)..and I know probably half of it is marketing buzz..but still I'd like to know the opinion of people tha thas been riding a long tiome.
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im sure someone is gonna yell at me for this but in my experience smaller wheels accelerate and turn faster but bigger wheels carry more speed and i think they top out higher
nope dude. ive ridden tons of wheels. width has a lot to do with it. big wheels do carry momentum better though. wide wheels require more leverage to turn so it makes the board feel stiffer. acceleration maybe but only because of weight, and rider weight, even wether they had a meal before the ride will make much more of a differance than wheel size.
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58's are the optimal size for modern poolriding.
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58's are the optimal size for modern poolriding.

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Larger wheels do maintain speed better and top out at a higher speed. However the smaller wheel will accelerate and achieve top speed quicker. Larger wheels make it easier to lock onto coping and also makes it easier to roll over coping.

Then comes riding surface and width. The more surface contact the wheel has the more friction. The more friction means better grip but it will also cause the wheel to slow.

For park, ramp, pool and back when I skated "street" I always preferred a wheel that ranged between 56 to 58 mm. That was what worked best for me all around. Personal preference. You just have to try different things and see what feels best for you.
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58's are the optimal size for modern poolriding.
Listen to this man. If you're skating parks that aren't super rough, 58s are a fantastic size.
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I ordered some Powell Bowl Riders 60mm 95a. I should be getting them today and hope to try them out this weekend. Has anyone used these wheels, and did you like them?
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Larger wheels do maintain speed better and top out at a higher speed. However the smaller wheel will accelerate and achieve top speed quicker. Larger wheels make it easier to lock onto coping and also makes it easier to roll over coping.
Ohh thanks. Lock into coping, got that. I see a few guys also using smaller ( soft?) quiet wheels.


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Then comes riding surface and width. The more surface contact the wheel has the more friction. The more friction means better grip but it will also cause the wheel to slow.

For park, ramp, pool and back when I skated "street" I always preferred a wheel that ranged between 56 to 58 mm. That was what worked best for me all around. Personal preference. You just have to try different things and see what feels best for you.
Ok. I'll stick with the 58s then and try the 55s to see what's the difference. Of course "grip" is meant while carving the pool sides?
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Yeah, grip for carving and even riding into and out of tricks.
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BTW, search n00b: Let's talk park wheels.
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