This debate goes on EVERY SINGLE TIME in a slide puck thread. However, it really doesn't have to.
Listen, people are always going to have their own opinions about this topic, or any topic for that matter.
Here's the bottom line:
1. Using cutting board and corian really does NOT save you money. If you truly believe using 'free' corian and cheap cutting board will save you money, it won't. Think of all the smaller things that come with purchasing or stealing corian or cutting board. Velcro costs money. Heating cutting board onto your gloves takes time. Time really does equal money. Of course you can buy a fatty sheet of whatever the hell you want on your own, but are you seriously going to go through that whole sheet alone? No. You are wasting money, unless you're down to make pucks for your friends.
2. If you don't agree with #1, listen here. It's obvious we can make slide gloves or pucks on our own. But, can't you make any longboard accessory on your own? Depending on your skill, your knowledge, and the tools you have provided..you can pretty much mimic any longboard item on the market. This isn't my point though. The point is, not everyone has these materials or tools. And even if you do, not everyone is going to spend this unnecessary time making these products, unless you're a business or you're in it to become a business, or if you're just stoked as balls and like making things for yourself and for others for free; that's on you.
3. Going back to #2, a person with the appropriate tools and materials can start making their own wheels. Anyone can make their own decks. Anyone can make their own pucks. But in longboarding, we support the people who have perfected the construction of these accessories. We buy from ABEC 11, Loaded, Legendary, ETC because we SUPPORT them as a company and we RESPECT what they do and how well they do it.
So, to pretty much end this repetitive and stupid debate.
Ok, make your own pucks. It's great, and a lot of people who just start longboarding do this. However, you're really not saving money and you're not supporting the people who work their asses to get good products for you, products that they believe can help mend the community together.
If you support buying pucks and gloves, good. You're helping the longboarding community out greatly, and even though you can make your own you know that buying helps people out and spreads the stoke.
No one's wrong in this and no ones right. Do what you want, read above. Stay happy. Stay stoked.
Ivan
That was probably the biggest waste of time ever... I fail to see evidence in your persuasive argument.
On a serious note, people will do what they want; however, one shouldn't say free corian cost money or that making things is pointless. That's ignorance at it's finest. That's were my argument stands.
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Agreed cannon that argument did not persuade me that making gloves is not the way to go.
And yes we should support companies that make brilliant products but remember that they wouldn't be in the buisiness just to make great products for us longboarders otherwise evrything would be a hell of a lot cheaper. Yes there would be skaters working at loaded and landyachtz who design there great products, but in the end they want to make money to. They've got familys who need feeding and bills that need paying as well as everyone Else.
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That board looks like the awkward illegitimate product of a sexual encounter between a Criviche and a Dervish.
and he offended me first....................don't talk crap to me and I won't talk it to you.........bottom line...................and I couldn't care less who likes and who doesn't. I show respect where respect is given and deserved.
and PM me in a few weeks, I'll sell you good quality pucks for 12$
Well then you can bad rep me all you like cos those red squares can mean 2 things.
1- a few super experienced longboarders came saw my post and went this guy doesn't know what he's talking about so we'll give him bad rep and tell him how to fix his mistakes and get on with.
2- a guy trying to ruin peoples spirits and put them off came in started using foul language, offended someone. Then when I came and tryed to defend this guy the foul language guy said no stuff you I'm always right and starts making stupid excuses about why he doesn't think he offended someone.
You are the latter.
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That board looks like the awkward illegitimate product of a sexual encounter between a Criviche and a Dervish.
here's mine, 98% Teflon Pucks... longest lasting ever... 148 dollars for a 12'x12' inch sheet 1/2'' thick.
I aquired mine from work.
Man 144 sqft of teflon.
Let me get in on that action! lol
Just as a note, i use motion slide gloves. I lack time and tools to spend on making gloves, otherwise i would have. Atleast next time i can just buy some pucks or fashion some out of derlin myself.
EDIT: ah i see you said inches, i was looking at the apostrophe. so i guess 144 sq inches!
This debate goes on EVERY SINGLE TIME in a slide puck thread. However, it really doesn't have to.
Listen, people are always going to have their own opinions about this topic, or any topic for that matter.
Here's the bottom line:
1. Using cutting board and corian really does NOT save you money. If you truly believe using 'free' corian and cheap cutting board will save you money, it won't. Think of all the smaller things that come with purchasing or stealing corian or cutting board. Velcro costs money. Heating cutting board onto your gloves takes time. Time really does equal money. Of course you can buy a fatty sheet of whatever the hell you want on your own, but are you seriously going to go through that whole sheet alone? No. You are wasting money, unless you're down to make pucks for your friends.
2. If you don't agree with #1, listen here. It's obvious we can make slide gloves or pucks on our own. But, can't you make any longboard accessory on your own? Depending on your skill, your knowledge, and the tools you have provided..you can pretty much mimic any longboard item on the market. This isn't my point though. The point is, not everyone has these materials or tools. And even if you do, not everyone is going to spend this unnecessary time making these products, unless you're a business or you're in it to become a business, or if you're just stoked as balls and like making things for yourself and for others for free; that's on you.
3. Going back to #2, a person with the appropriate tools and materials can start making their own wheels. Anyone can make their own decks. Anyone can make their own pucks. But in longboarding, we support the people who have perfected the construction of these accessories. We buy from ABEC 11, Loaded, Legendary, ETC because we SUPPORT them as a company and we RESPECT what they do and how well they do it.
So, to pretty much end this repetitive and stupid debate.
Ok, make your own pucks. It's great, and a lot of people who just start longboarding do this. However, you're really not saving money and you're not supporting the people who work their asses to get good products for you, products that they believe can help mend the community together.
If you support buying pucks and gloves, good. You're helping the longboarding community out greatly, and even though you can make your own you know that buying helps people out and spreads the stoke.
No one's wrong in this and no ones right. Do what you want, read above. Stay happy. Stay stoked.
Ivan
Wow, somehow you managed to top dkeller for the most ridiculous post in this thread. Just because you are the guy selling the pucks doesn't mean you have to lie to people and tell them that making their own gloves is more expensive or that it's too hard, or complain that it's not supporting the industry (aka you). It's not our job to "support the industry", it's the industry's job to support itself by making something that's worth buying.
1. Taking free samples of corian is not stealing (I've had a home depot employee personally give me an entire box of it), and the cost of velcro is negligible compared to the cost of professionally made pucks. Also, just because you could never go through an entire sheet of puck material doesn't mean we couldn't, some of us actually use our gloves to slide.
2. The only "tools" I use to make slide gloves are a pair of scissors. I would say it's a good bit easier than pouring your own wheels.
3. I don't buy from ABEC11 because I respect them, admire them, or just feel like giving them money. I am not the type to be loyal to certain companies just because I think they are cool. I buy from ABEC11 because the wheels are good. I make my own gloves for the exact same reason - because I can make them just as good as anyone else.
Sorry if this comes off as a flame but I felt that your false info needed to be corrected.
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No harm meant in my post, you seem to have taken it personally and offensively. Chill out son.
My main point is, do what you want. There's no wrong or right in this. And really, as a manufacturer of slide pucks I really don't care what anyone does when it comes to gloves. We actually only offer the puck part, so I can say that my gloves are home-made as well. If my post seemed like I was making a plug for my product, I really am not. The people who know me know I have zero intention of doing that.
Anyways, stay stoked. And kick back.
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Of course you can buy a fatty sheet of whatever the hell you want on your own, but are you seriously going to go through that whole sheet alone? No. You are wasting money, unless you're down to make pucks for your friends.
This statement seems contradictory of your argument. If one person can't use a whole sheet of their own material, why should they spend more money on a longer lasting puck?
Small argument, and I'm not trying to prove you wrong in your overall argument. If I had a need for something more than cutting board. I don't tech slide, and I rarely coleman. When my pucks hit the ground, it's because I overslid a standup. If I was a serious racer, and needed a puck that wouldn't slow me down in the final corner of the finals, I'd get some BVs. However, I live in Missouri, where there are no courses like that, so I only need slide gloves to keep my hands from getting torn apart when I need to brace myself.
Also, what's wrong with making pucks for your friends with a giant cutting board you bought? Isn't that just creating a tighter knit group of skaters in your local area?
This statement seems contradictory of your argument. If one person can't use a whole sheet of their own material, why should they spend more money on a longer lasting puck?
Small argument, and I'm not trying to prove you wrong in your overall argument. If I had a need for something more than cutting board. I don't tech slide, and I rarely coleman. When my pucks hit the ground, it's because I overslid a standup. If I was a serious racer, and needed a puck that wouldn't slow me down in the final corner of the finals, I'd get some BVs. However, I live in Missouri, where there are no courses like that, so I only need slide gloves to keep my hands from getting torn apart when I need to brace myself.
Also, what's wrong with making pucks for your friends with a giant cutting board you bought? Isn't that just creating a tighter knit group of skaters in your local area?
Definitely nothing is wrong with buying cutting board and giving it out to friends, haha. I never said there was. Hell, a while back I used to make corian gloves too.
Also, forget that I make pucks. I'm speaking solely from just a normal skater's perspective, and it's all just my personal opinion.
Anyways, cheers. I am not much of a valid SF user anymore, so I am way too lazy to reply to any arguments or debates made. Let's just skate and have fun.
Cya
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first slide gloves. got a cutting board from my dad(part of it was melted cuz he put it on the stove) i used industrial velcro and gorrilla glued it to the glove/puck. i used it for like a day and holes appeared in the fingers. then when i put the finger pucks on i lost the velcro so i just used contact cement on the puck/glove. have been working great an cost about $4 to make. im deciding if i should make thumb pucks or not. im gonna star selling them to friends.
first slide gloves. got a cutting board from my dad(part of it was melted cuz he put it on the stove) i used industrial velcro and gorrilla glued it to the glove/puck. i used it for like a day and holes appeared in the fingers. then when i put the finger pucks on i lost the velcro so i just used contact cement on the puck/glove. have been working great an cost about $4 to make. im deciding if i should make thumb pucks or not. im gonna star selling them to friends.
Blood stain?
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you kids crack me up. I see I got more bad reps ewwwwwwwwwww......... funny thing is I see lots of good reps too. Those come from the people who have a clue what I put out for the good of this sport....... For the good of you kids riddled with opinions and attitude. You can like me or not, I couldn't care less but just remember one thing, when I have a race or I'm promoting an event, I do it for everyone. There is nothing selfish about it. I do it because I love skateboarding. It's something I'm passionate about. Most of the people in the East know who I am and know how much of a sacrifice I make in my time and effort to promote this sport. I throw races, I open the door to my house at a moments notice and fill it to the brim so skaters can have a great time. I feed everyone and make my house their house. You can like my attitude or not. Like I said earlier, I couldn't care less. I never entered a popularity contest.......but the bottom line, until you make the committment to this sport I have you all need to shut the hell up and show some appreciation (not respect per se) that there are people like me out here making your experience better.........if there weren't, half of you would be riding skooters because that would be the flavor of the day.
I'm curious to see how many of you will actually still be standing on 4 wheels when you're my age. My experience tells me it'll be very few of you. Until then, have fun and be safe.
.............and I think some of you ought to apologize to Ivan for jumping all over him too. I think you directed your disdain for me toward him just because he has the same opinion I do.
you kids crack me up. I see I got more bad reps ewwwwwwwwwww......... funny thing is I see lots of good reps too. Those come from the people who have a clue what I put out for the good of this sport....... For the good of you kids riddled with opinions and attitude. You can like me or not, I couldn't care less but just remember one thing, when I have a race or I'm promoting an event, I do it for everyone. There is nothing selfish about it. I do it because I love skateboarding. It's something I'm passionate about. Most of the people in the East know who I am and know how much of a sacrifice I make in my time and effort to promote this sport. I throw races, I open the door to my house at a moments notice and fill it to the brim so skaters can have a great time. I feed everyone and make my house their house. You can like my attitude or not. Like I said earlier, I couldn't care less. I never entered a popularity contest.......but the bottom line, until you make the committment to this sport I have you all need to shut the hell up and show some appreciation (not respect per se) that there are people like me out here making your experience better.........if there weren't, half of you would be riding skooters because that would be the flavor of the day.
I'm curious to see how many of you will actually still be standing on 4 wheels when you're my age. My experience tells me it'll be very few of you. Until then, have fun and be safe.
.............and I think some of you ought to apologize to Ivan for jumping all over him too. I think you directed your disdain for me toward him just because he has the same opinion I do.
shhhhhhhhhhhhh. . . Its ok . . . people have moved on.
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I find it funny that people who want there "future customers" to buy there pucks instead of making them would insult them, also those of you who do sell slide gloves/pucks at some point i presume that you too were going out and buying your own gloves and making your own pucks, so that wouldn't have to pay for a more expensive glove, so really people that are making there own gloves could be the next "loaded" or seismic or big longboard company, really your the ones pushing the longboard community down. people are trying to have fun with this sport don't beat them before they have a chance. I started my first set of gloves were the crappiest cutting board and gloves and velcro possible i went in for a slide and all 4 pucks flew off. Ive made plenty of pairs, with corian sample i got form the store and corian scraps i got from a countertop company, these days ive been selling gloves and getting kids in my community into the sport. There really is something magical about making your own stuff. I assume you get this feeling too when you slide on pucks that you have made. I just want you to really think about were you were when you made your first gloves and were you are now because of that. Give others the opportunity that you had. and Skate happy.
me and my friend made some sick gloves the other day. standard work gloves and a cutting board for pucks. did the blow torching to melt it and all. for the pointer finger puck we drilled holes and put the flint replacement for a torch sparker. it's pretty awesome doing slides with sparks coming out of your finger. if i get around to it i'll post a pic.
Im looking to DIY sliding gloves because the only shop near me sells them for 100 dollars. I dont think so.
Anyway, i looked at youtube relentlessly an i like the approach of partly mellting plastic from a cutting board and pressing it into a glove. But i have the tingling sensation that doing so will result in the plastic coming off mid-slide resultiong in my hand being smeared into the concrete.
Has anyone had experience making gloves like this... or infactin any other way. And if not, does anyone live in melbourne and know of a good skate shop?
laughing at the skate shop trying to sell you 70 dollar ones and telling you its not worth the trouble- PRICELESS
i just took the cutting board and cut it into section on a band saw
glued the velcro to to glove and puck
attached them
went on my marry way and they are replaceable if the wear out before the glove
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) i used industrial velcro and gorrilla glued it to the glove/puck. i used it for like a day and holes appeared in the fingers. then when i put the finger pucks on i lost the velcro so i just used contact cement on the puck/glove. have been working great an cost about $4 to make. im deciding if i should make thumb pucks or not. im gonna star selling them to friends.
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