Concrete Wave Buyers Guide; How do you set up YOUR slide deck?
Concrete Wave Buyers Guide; How do you set up YOUR slide deck, and why?
Brooke has given the 'fish the opportunity to add a “How to set up a slide deck”
section to the buyers guide. I will be writing it hopefully with your input. I want to hear from you how you have your slide setup and why. This includes;
Deck
Risers
Trucks
Bushings
Grip
Wheels
Slide Gloves
Slide Pads
Helmet
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The sage, Longboard Buddha once said, "A tree spends 100% of its lifetime in a static environment and only after its reincarnation as a deck is it allowed to move at fast speeds...
when allowed, the wood will give thankless service if
allowed to flow."
-Ride-Respect-Honor-
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Last edited by MalakaiKingston; 01-23-2007 at 10:12 PM.
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Re: Cocrete Wave Buyers Guide; How do you set up YOUR slide deck?
My Setup
Deck
Earthwing 35.5 Good deck with ample pockets, I am running old gravity super glass grip. I feel like the deck gives me the most control for the size and the trade off in agility and stability is well balanced. The deck gives me the appropriate stance spacing as well as accessible nose and tail for pressuring manual slides.
Wheels
I run Sergio Sliders and try to rotate often enough to minimize the loss of wheels due to flat spots and over coning it’s not rare for me to run a wheel till it is almost down to the bearing seat. Sliders give me the speed I need with minimal entrance and exit speed. They are not too expensive and they are resilient enough to not get surprise flat spots with attention to rotations.
Bearings
I run Biltin bearing in all my slide decks, I have no other choice, any bearing I run will get smashed in from side load and the minimal slop in the bearing keeps the speed where it should be instead of slappy monkey nuts against the bearing face. Not to mention it makes swapping out wheels and cleaning simple short step processes. When I set up slide decks for training other riders, it tends to be bones reds. Other than the biltins they survive the hardships of sliding keep their speed and are easy to clean.
Trucks
Tracker Darts, I got to be honest as far as my sliding setup goes trucks are the last thing I think of but I do swap out the bushings for Red/Yellow Top/Bottom Khiro combo on both trucks. More or less as long as my wheel faces lines up with the edge of my deck I have little concern for my trucks. On other slide deck setups I have also run Krux and Orion with no real noticeable change in the way the deck handles. I run 1/8th inch risers on both truck to minimize foot massage.
Gloves
On fast hills where I want to bleed speed I run Lush Gloves with NBS proto slide puck which are UHMW Oil Impregnated. The slide pucks are hyper durable and do the job well. The gloves protect my hands and still give me the ability to grip my deck with a bit of dexterity. I have replaced the finger pucks with PVC I got as scrap from a plastic manufacturer.
On slower hills or hills where I want all the speed I can get I run the Gravity Full Glove the Derlin pucks are without a doubt the fastest puck out there. The wear tendency is similar to stock UHMW but the trade off in speed is well worth it for huge sets of rotations and colemans that hardly slow you down. At slidefest I had a choice of what to run, and I still chose the derlin. I am very happy with their performance.
Slide Pads
187 all the way, I have worn a set while running the proto style and have no other opinions about pads, everything I have worn NOTHING stood up to sliding like these pads, no slip, no grip and no binding between your legs, just pure speed for knee down slides and the are durable to no end. Designed by sliders and made with direct co-operation with 187 these strap on pads are the only solution for trashed slides.
Helmet
It's hard to find helmets that fit, I am running a very very old protec helmet with a sky light from all my helmet grinds. In actuality I like how it slides. I can't say much for how safe it is any more but when I do go down it is there for me.
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The sage, Longboard Buddha once said, "A tree spends 100% of its lifetime in a static environment and only after its reincarnation as a deck is it allowed to move at fast speeds...
when allowed, the wood will give thankless service if
allowed to flow."
Re: Cocrete Wave Buyers Guide; How do you set up YOUR slide deck?
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Originally Posted by Metalhead8290
Deck : Gravity BE40
Risers : 5/16 hard/flat
Trucks : 169 indys
Bushings :stock indys
Grip : mini-logo
Wheels : superballs
Slide Gloves : home made/ Gravity Slide gloves V2.
Slide Pads : Off brand knee pads, protech helment.
But whyyyyy...
Oh crap yea helmet!
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The sage, Longboard Buddha once said, "A tree spends 100% of its lifetime in a static environment and only after its reincarnation as a deck is it allowed to move at fast speeds...
when allowed, the wood will give thankless service if
allowed to flow."
Re: Cocrete Wave Buyers Guide; How do you set up YOUR slide deck?
Board = Gravity Team 36 - i like the versatility of a twin kick board that has rounded nose/tail. i also ride the Pool36 with it's square tail for a great place to lock in my back foot. Soon i'll either be on the PS36(roundtail) or the PS35(squaretail which are the new versions of the T36 and P36 with quite a bit more concave.
Risers = 2 Khiro soft 1/8" under each truck. just enough clearence for no wheelbite and it smooths out those rough roads just a little bit.
Trucks = Orion SP1 150 - fits the board perfect, turns great, and the quality is topnotch.
Bushings = Khiro - harder near the deck and softer on top, something like a yellow bottom, blue/red top. constantly changing to find the sweetspot.
Grip = Negative One - it's free, and works pretty well.
Wheels = Sergios - buy my wheels... i mean buy his wheels
Bearings = Bones Reds - cheap and fast, need i say more.
Slide gloves = Gravity Half-Finger - the wrist strap is amazing and save my wrist numerous times. Delrin is almost too fast for a puck material, LOVE IT, when it's time to come back to reality, i run the NBS pucks(uhmw-pe). and Fingered gloves are like training wheels, easy to use, but take some control away(unless it's cold).
Slide pads = The 1.8.7 - see Kai's post above for why... they are the best kneepad made.
Re: Cocrete Wave Buyers Guide; How do you set up YOUR slide deck?
Deck: Gravity Pool 36. Only deck I feel very comfortable on. Really like the square tail and the rounded nose. Edger grip on the nose and tail to lock my feet in for the technical slides. Great WB that remains stable at higher speeds. Not only does this deck do good at sliding, but it is absolutely great for street and pools/parks too. This board will be replaced by the Pool 35 when it comes out though. The subracted inch will allow me to do the more technical standup slides.
Riser: About 1/2" total of various kinds. This is the minimum amount of riser I can run without getting wheelbite. I run my trucks as loose as possible so wheelbite can't be an issue for me.
Trucks: Orion SP 149mm. Khiro Blue/Red in front, Yellow/Black in back. Very turny in front while stable in back. Great for that surf style skating.
Wheels: Sergio Yuppie Sliders. They are very cost efficient (Which is a plus for sliding), they slide extremely well and are fast. The newest batch, which is a bright white, slide better than any other wheel I have tried. They provide long slides with great, expected hook up.
Bearings: Something cheap and fast. Either Reds or Mini Logos. No spacers because I think wheels slide weird with spacers.
Gloves: Leather driving gloves. Great fit on my hands and very durable. There is only one puck for the palm. The puck is made from UHMW. Slides extremely well and wears down slower than any other plastic I have tried. It is cut in a rectangular shape with rounded corners. Attached with Industrial Strength velcro.
Pads: Modified TSG Force pads. First generation Force pads which I scored for only 16 bucks a while back. Malakai was nice enough (And I was lucky enough ) to score some prototype pucks that were made from the guys making the 187 sliding pads. They have lasted me sometime, but when they are dead, I am pretty sure I will drop the cash to buy some of the 187s.
Helmet: Off-brand helmet which I scored off Ebay for a mere 10 bucks. Offers protection, all scratched up from helmet slides and such though. Will probably buy an old school Pro Tec one next.
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Re: Cocrete Wave Buyers Guide; How do you set up YOUR slide deck?
Deck - Comet Pop (35x9"). The 17.5" wheelbase is magic on any deck, I stuck with the Comet over anything else because the maple/fiberglass construction complete with carbon stringers is light and strong, and comes with tons of pop. I put a square of Edger under my front foot to help keep me on the board during big flatspins, the rest of the deck is covered in generic grip, something like Jessup. I'm really looking forward to the Earthwing 38" because my BE40 feels a bit too long and sluggish while I feel like I could have a bit more length than the Comet.
Riser - Used to use an angled Khiro in front with a 1/2" soft riser in the back, but it felt like my board was a bit too high up. I switched to using two standard issue 1/8" shock pads under each truck, it brought the ride height down and I've got no wheelbite issues.
Wheels - Earthwing Superballs, all day every day. They cruise soft, release and hook up smoothly, and slide like controllable ice once sideways. These wheels took my standing slides to the next level.
Bearings - Biltin's, usually abec 3's for cost or abec 7's that I "killed" on other boards. I usually replace the shields with seals from Pleasure Tool or Bones wheels, they stay cleaner a lot longer. MUST FACE TRUCKS for smooth, predictable slides... especially when paired with Biltins.
Trucks - Indy 169's. I definitely prefer the Indy/straight pivot feel over bent pivots. I go with whatever extra bushings I have that fit the stock kingpins as replacing them with grade-8's is a hassle. MUST FACE THE HANGERS! I use my counterbore to clean up the hanger faces which lets me crank down on my Biltins, which keeps my wheels from screeching and makes them a lot smoother and more predictable.
Gloves - Homemade, standard issue work gloves. Big palm puck, big finger puck across all four fingers, smaller-ish thumb puck. UHMW cut really crappily with a jigsaw, not rounded over at all Industrial strength velcro to hold them on.
Slide Pads - 187's are the ISH, and I only ride their pro model vert pads. They last longer, feel more comfortable, and stay in place better than any other pad I've tried. I stiched some extra velcro on the sides and added my own UHMW pucks for knee-down sliders, and have absolutely no complaints.
Helmet - I rock a Giro Semi-MX which is currently discontinued. It's a bike helmet but comes with a visor that actually looks decent, so I keep it on for style points. It fits my huge noggin comfortably, which is all I really care about.
Re: Cocrete Wave Buyers Guide; How do you set up YOUR slide deck?
Deck: Alva Black Cadillac 36"
Trucks: Tracker Sixtracks
Wheels: Rainskates Yellow Jackets
Bearings: The ones that I rust on other boards
Gloves: Garden gloves with corian or cutting board...whichever I can find.
Riser: Probably a little less then a half inch
Pads: No idea what they are
Helmet: Triple 8 rubberized one.
This is really my park setup but I take it for a slide every now and then.
Re: Cocrete Wave Buyers Guide; How do you set up YOUR slide deck?
Deck - Eastbuilt old School Knox shape, possibly the best board and cheapest ($25) I have ever ridden. While it is small at 32" it is still a great board with gnarly concave that locks your feet in for technical stand up slides. I have yet to find a better board.
Risers -Some plastic ones I found
Trucks - Basic 9's, looking for replacements any day
Bushings - Stock
Grip - Powell
Wheels - Earthwing
Slide Gloves - Lush with broken pucks, looking for new pucks
Slide Pads - Waiting to receive the 187's, dang snow!
Helmet - Protec with Big Hit stickers, I will never helmet slide on this helmet, it'd be like punching my dog
Re: Cocrete Wave Buyers Guide; How do you set up YOUR slide deck?
Deck: Earthwing 35.5
Risers: Tracker/Gravity mixup hard wedges.
Trucks: 169's deastock aside from flat washers and shaved bushings.
Bushings: Indy Stock orange, testing MOOGs.
Grip: Black Magic (I think, might just be Jessup, Edger next)
Wheels: BL 62mm 99a
Bearings: Reds.
Slide Gloves: Homemade spocks in need of thumbers
Slide Pads: Nope.
Helmet: Crap no-namer. (I do not suggest this, I just don't feel like buying a new one)
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Re: Cocrete Wave Buyers Guide; How do you set up YOUR slide deck?
Deck - Lush Globe 41" I love the feeling of longer drawn out slides that this board gives, its also pretty nippy in bowls, halfpipes and for street style considering its size. Nice concave locks you in to high speed slides and is stable enough to bomb big hills.
Trucks - Tracker Six Tracks. Low, stable and turny enough. I have confidence in Trackers I've been riding them since '85. I run them with stock bushings and angled risers.
Wheels - Lush Cannonballs 97a 65mm (now probably 60) Best sliding wheel I've used. They've resisted flat spots so far and are a good trade off between park and slide wheels.
Bearings - Bones Reds - What WillJ says.
Pads - Boneless Park Knee and Elbow pads. Good quality, they've lasted well, but the knee pads can be a bit uncomfortable for sliding. Great in parks though (Hence the name I guess)
Gloves - Lush Slide gloves V1. They've lasted well, excellent slidey puck and they don't make you look like a total bell-end.
Helmet - Six Six One stock helmet, bashed to hell and backl now - so looking for a new one. Always wear this when sliding.
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Concrete Wave Buyers Guide; How do you set up YOUR slide deck?
) to score some prototype pucks that were made from the guys making the 187 sliding pads. They have lasted me sometime, but when they are dead, I am pretty sure I will drop the cash to buy some of the 187s.
Industrial strength velcro to hold them on.
